Dodgy Dave, Don't most people get sacked for back handers? Options

[Adrian Hollister]

In the news is Dodgy Dave who seems to be accepting back handers for access to him and his policies; so I think the government must declare all lobbying activities, any political funds associated and any personal funds that MP's may benefit from. This is something that I've asked Benyon about, but as usual I got the 'no real answer' letter back discussing the weather and how nice and thick parliamentary paper is .

I've also wondered why NWN never cover things like this? Dealing with corruption effects us all, so perhaps they are a little too caution to cover sensitive issues for those in 'power'.

So what do you lot think? Should we just allow the corruption to continue; or do we need reform?

[Sherlock]

Good points GMR. What's your feeling about Clegg? I'm not a violent man but whenever I see him on the box these days I want to punch him in the face. Hard. Is that wrong?

[GMR]

Good points GMR. What's your feeling about Clegg? I'm not a violent man but whenever I see him on the box these days I want to punch him in the face. Hard. Is that wrong?

I think the LDs have too much power (considering they came third with reduced support). This a good example why PR isn't a good idea.

[Andy Capp]

I think the LDs have too much power (considering they came third with reduced support). This a good example why PR isn't a good idea.

What do you think the government would have done if it were not in a coalition? What examples do you have of differences we might have seen?

What you are talking about happens with all parties. Why criticise Cameron when Blair and Brown did the same.

Because Cameron is the PM (Blair and Brown are not) and we got rid of Brown and Blair for these reasons (amongst others), yet he and his party seems not to have learned the lesson.

[GMR]

What do you think the government would have done if it were not in a coalition? What examples do you have of differences we might have seen?

The government could have carried out what was in their manifesto rather than bartering.

Because Cameron is the PM (Blair and Brown are not) and we got rid of Brown and Blair for these reasons (amongst others), yet he and his party seems not to have learned the lesson.

We didn't get rid of Blair; Brown and his people forced Blair out.



To your second point; I disagree. You will never get perfection with anything; therefore the question is how swift do they deal with any problems that come up and the Tories acted quickly.

[Andy Capp]

The government could have carried out what was in their manifesto rather than bartering.

Do you have an example of where the Tories had to give-in?

We didn't get rid of Blair; Brown and his people forced Blair out.

Blair and Brown was a euphemism for New Labour.

To your second point; I disagree. You will never get perfection with anything; therefore the question is how swift do they deal with any problems that come up and the Tories acted quickly.

I don't see it a case of perfection; that isn't what we have here. We have rank stupidity in the Tory party. Did these highly paid professionals not think that it might look a bit dodgy if they allow a party sponsor to gain access to the lodger at No 10. Not only that, but to blurt it to any old soul in a candid interview that their money could be an investment.


"Meet the new boss ... same as the old boss" - P Townsend.

[GMR]

Do you have an example of where the Tories had to give-in?

One example is over inheritance tax. Another was that they wanted to reduce the 50p tax to 40p when they came into power.

Blair and Brown was a euphemism for New Labour.

And?

I don't see it a case of perfection; that isn't what we have here. We have rank stupidity in the Tory party. Did these highly paid professionals not think that it might look a bit dodgy if they allow a party sponsor to gain access to the lodger at No 10. Not only that, but to blurt it to any old soul in a candid interview that their money could be an investment.


"Meet the new boss ... same as the old boss" - P Townsend.

This is about one individual overstepping his mark, not the rank stupidity of the Tory party.


Party sponsors have always had access to high ranking ministers; in all parties. As for stupidity; that goes across all political parties.