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post Dec 1 2011, 08:52 AM
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I heard on the BBC news this morning that because of the low rainfall in the summer and possibly the same this winter that we can expect a drought next year with possible shortages of supplies.
Isn't this yet another good reason to impose a real and meaningful reduction in immigration to Great Britain to protect this vital resource.
If you also consider that we don't have enough jobs to go around, the prospect of jobs loses, for those that have them, is rising, we have a over a million young people out of work and our travel infrastucture is creaking.
This country cannot support year on year unnessary population expansion and action needs to be taken soon.


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post Dec 1 2011, 09:26 AM
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Did you know an anagram for "Live at the Apollo" is "eat all the evil poo"? Mr Hanky's days are numbered.

Various weather insitutions also said we'd be having snow in October and yet by all accounts it's still a "mild" autumn. If you want to use a minor water shortage as an excuse to advance an immigration policy then continue lying to yourself but I'd rather you just say "I want immigrants to go home". It's irrational to think that a few polish people are responsible for a water shortage.

Honesty is the best policy. Action does need to be taken regarding immigration but until we leave the EU we have to accept X amount of inter-EU immigrants per year.

Either that or cap families to 1.6 babies. So that means they can either have one baby and a second with a learning difficulty, or that at birth they choose which 2 limbs to amputate. I'd pick the left arm and the right leg. Then I could teach my kid to do cartwheels and it can still hop and enjoy activities which would include the use of its hand.

On Metoffice.Gov.uk, I quote on the 6-15 day forecast for London and the South East.

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post Dec 1 2011, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Dec 1 2011, 09:26 AM) *
Did you know an anagram for "Live at the Apollo" is "eat all the evil poo"? Mr Hanky's days are numbered.

Interesting, what does it mean?

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Various weather insitutions also said we'd be having snow in October and yet by all accounts it's still a "mild" autumn. If you want to use a minor water shortage as an excuse to advance an immigration policy then continue lying to yourself but I'd rather you just say "I want immigrants to go home". It's irrational to think that a few polish people are responsible for a water shortage.

I'm not lying to myelf or looking for an excuse. I am simply raising the question regarding the potential water shortage next year as reported by the BBC and asking if it is true, is it reasonable that we should be sharing a dwindling resource with ever more immigrants.
I never said that any one should be sent home and I also never identified any particular race as being responsible.

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Honesty is the best policy. Action does need to be taken regarding immigration but until we leave the EU we have to accept X amount of inter-EU immigrants per year.

That's the question I am asking but also saying that should we continue to be constrained by EU directives that harm our country.

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Either that or cap families to 1.6 babies. So that means they can either have one baby and a second with a learning difficulty, or that at birth they choose which 2 limbs to amputate. I'd pick the left arm and the right leg. Then I could teach my kid to do cartwheels and it can still hop and enjoy activities which would include the use of its hand.

Most amusing.

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On Metoffice.Gov.uk, I quote on the 6-15 day forecast for London and the South East.

Yes, the reports are full of contradictions.




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post Dec 1 2011, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Dec 1 2011, 09:26 AM) *
Either that or cap families to 1.6 babies. So that means they can either have one baby and a second with a learning difficulty...


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post Dec 1 2011, 04:38 PM
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Yes, we should. We are already massively overpopulated, both in Britain and in the wider world.

This water shortage is nothing. Resource wars are already being fought, especially in Africa over the routing of the Nile. A worrying prospect.
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post Dec 1 2011, 05:43 PM
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Water , money , jobs ,they are all a diminishing entity but why the surprise ? Most of the ails that effect this country today were aired 25 years ago but no one listened , well no one who was in a position to do anything , so now the populace is waking up to the fact that the good times are over.....for ever . Yes it can and will get worse and water shortage is probably the most worrying aspect of them all. I do not have the figures to hand but the amount of water required to sustain a single person for a year in the developed world in frightening . I am not talking about 3 baths a day or the use of the dish washer but the volumes needed to grow food, run industry and a hundred and one things that don't immediately come to mind but still use the elixir of life .
Makes the debacle over public sector pensions seem inconsequential .


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post Dec 1 2011, 05:49 PM
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Water shortage.

On the rain home; rain and puddles.

Ergo.
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post Dec 1 2011, 06:24 PM
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Would it be ok if they came in to build desalination plants?
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post Dec 1 2011, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Dec 1 2011, 05:49 PM) *
Ergo.


Ergo...?
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post Dec 1 2011, 07:23 PM
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Is it perhaps no surprise that since 2004 we have around an extra 500,000 immigrants doing low paid jobs and youth unemployment has doubled to around 1,000,000? The rationalé seems to be we need more people to pay tax to finance the elderly, but surely that policy isn't sustainable? Meanwhile; our council and government are eagerly awaiting building projects to get under way to create more jobs (I wonder how many will be locally sourced) and grow the economy. Saying all that, is it morally correct to decide who has a comfortable life judged simply on the luck of being born here? It is a conundrum.
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post Dec 1 2011, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Dec 1 2011, 06:24 PM) *
Would it be ok if they came in to build desalination plants?

In theory it's the way forward but looking at it objectively it is intrinsically floored in as much that the energy requirement to operate is high in relation to output. Also the environmental impact of such developments may be politically unacceptable.


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post Dec 1 2011, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (lordtup @ Dec 1 2011, 08:47 PM) *
In theory it's the way forward but looking at it objectively it is intrinsically floored in as much that the energy requirement to operate is high in relation to output. Also the environmental impact of such developments may be politically unacceptable.

The cost of desalinated water is comparable to that of potable water from rivers and boreholes. If desalination plants were powered with wind turbines then the ecconomics might not be too bad at all.


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post Dec 1 2011, 09:37 PM
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Hmmm...this might have something to do with it.

There's enough water for all of us on the planet, it's just in the wrong place and too heavy to transport around.

When the water industry was privatised, they gave each of these companies a regional monopoly, instead of creating a market where we pay for what we use.





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post Dec 1 2011, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 1 2011, 09:04 PM) *
The cost of desalinated water is comparable to that of potable water from rivers and boreholes. If desalination plants were powered with wind turbines then the ecconomics might not be too bad at all.


What about wave power? The tale of Salter's Duck, wherein the Tories held secret meetings, fiddled the figures whilst starving the developers of funds and finally lied about the end cost, just to have an excuse to stop it is particularly shameful. Clive Grove-Palmer resigned over the affair and it was later discovered that the (false) report was compiled by a team working from within the Atomic Energy Authority.

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then here..

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post Dec 2 2011, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Dec 1 2011, 09:26 AM) *
Either that or cap families to 1.6 babies. So that means they can either have one baby and a second with a learning difficulty, or that at birth they choose which 2 limbs to amputate. I'd pick the left arm and the right leg. Then I could teach my kid to do cartwheels and it can still hop and enjoy activities which would include the use of its hand.


Your not Jeremy Clarksons long lost love child by any chance are you ! laugh.gif
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post Dec 2 2011, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 1 2011, 09:04 PM) *
The cost of desalinated water is comparable to that of potable water from rivers and boreholes. If desalination plants were powered with wind turbines then the ecconomics might not be too bad at all.

In theory admiral , in practise when the wind doesn't blow the rainfall is low .
Sorry I didn't mean to sound poetic.


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post Dec 2 2011, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (lordtup @ Dec 2 2011, 05:45 PM) *
In theory admiral , in practise when the wind doesn't blow the rainfall is low .
Sorry I didn't mean to sound poetic.

Ah, good point, I hadn't thought of that.


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post Dec 3 2011, 06:19 PM
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We just bought a collie dog to act as a guard dog for the estate, bloody useless, lets everyone in ! Turns out its a UK border Collie.


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post Dec 3 2011, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE (HJD @ Dec 2 2011, 05:35 PM) *
Your not Jeremy Clarksons long lost love child by any chance are you ! laugh.gif


I wish. No, that's just the type of thing I naturally say; why, should I make a career on the BBC out of it? mellow.gif
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post Dec 4 2011, 12:03 PM
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1,000,000 youth unemployed is not a result of 500,000 immigrants - it's the result of an economic recession. If the banking crisis and credit crunch had not happened we would probably be needing more immigrants (Brits just don't breed enough to provide the workforce of the future).
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