Calls to reduce the A34 to a 50mph limit, Yet more namby pamby nonsense Options

[Guest_xjay1337_*]

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=18949

Basically, Brightwalton resident and Green party activist Adrian Hollister has said “enough is enough.” and wants the A34 between Oxfordshire boarder and the M4 to be a 50mph limit.

Apparently his year of living in West Ilsey was "living ****" (aww, bless him would he like a lollypop?)
According to this clearly very entertaining fellow he has no idea how he would get out of his driveway and worries about his children bicycling in town.

Adrian suggests average speed cameras (he fails to mention the large install and upkeep cost, plus paying for fines to be processed, that's not very green is it, plus the cameras are yellow), he adds:

“By doing so, I reckon 99 per cent of all the accidents on that road will go away, the traffic will flow more timely and the Downlands will be spared the anti-social driving of the panicked drivers searching for a diversion.”

Since when has a member of the green party been able to give advice on what to do with the roads without having a conflict of interests?

Oh no a few cars might have scratched their bumpers from time to time but at the end of the day changing the speed limit will not reduce crashes, it will just result in angrier drivers. Like when you're driving down the motorway and a lorry overtakes someone doing 52mph, causing the whole carridgeway to get tailbacked...inevitable they will be driving a Daewoo.

Brightwalton is a 6.8mile drive from the A34 and a 2.6 mile drive from the A338. The B4494 is closer but it's also quieter.
Well Adrian, I sincerely hope your children don't fall off their bicycles. And frankly assuming you live in the centre of Brightwalton, if you are letting your children cycle out far enough to get near to these major roads then I suggest you fit them with GPS tracking devices were you can not only monitor their speed and also keep an eye on their location so you can call upon your good friend the Honey Badger to rescue them. But if they did I doubt it would be because of someone doing 70mph on the A34.

*real reason for edit; being awesome*

Reason for edit: Breaching the rules of the forum

[Adrian Hollister]

changing the speed limit will not reduce crashes, it will just result in angrier drivers

angry, but alive and well? rofl

Best laugh I've had all day thanks.

[Guest_xjay1337_*]

I'm about as old as my shoe size actually.

angry, but alive and well? rofl

Best laugh I've had all day thanks.

I did hope you spotted this! No-one dies from speed do they? Unless it's speed the drug. But then if you were driving at speed on speed then you'd probably have a bigger problem than your speed.

I drive at 80mph on the motorway and the A34, in complete safety by being observant of cars in my mirrors and any possible queues up ahead, and by keeping a safe following distance, using the correct lane, etc, have never nearly had an accident on the motorway or the A34. And as most traffic goes about 70-80mph anyway you're hardly flying past everyone. Only times were things happen are when Deadrie in her Volvo is sat there doing 55mph chatting away to her friend, or sat about 2 inches from the wheel, tunnel vision engaged, not looking in her mirrors and realising she's causing massive tailbacks because lorries are going past at no rate of speed at all, thereby causing tailbacks for faster traffic!!

When I went on a plane (boy that was exciting, I slept most of the way) we were going at 500mph and we didn't have shunt! Unfortunately the causes of most accidents on the motorways are caused by falling asleep, texting, whatever. And whether you're doing 7 or 70 if you fall asleep or text while driving you will probably crash.
There aren't any corners, or junctions (well there's like one) or traffic lights, or pedestrians on the A34 which is where most accidents happen - and I think if the national limit dual carridgeways and the motorways were de restricted (aka go as fast as you like) the accident rate wouldn't rise by more than 5% because only about 5% of people would go over the limit, and maybe only 1% of them would crash...

The amounts of accidents caused by excessive speed are in the very low single percentile figures (between 3 and 8% depending where you look). In fact there are more accidents with cars in 30mph limits going UNDER the speed limit than there are on motorways AND dual carridgeways, full stop. So prooving that speeding does NOT cause accidents. Only a member of the green party would fight the battle on "speed" when in actual fact the modern day cars can stop about half as quickly as those cars on the road when the 70mph limit was introduced. So surely as logic goes we should be able to drive twice as quickly

If there is a speed limit which makes no sense to the motoring public in general it will be ignored. The 50mph limit you would like makes no sense so it would be ignored.
It won't happen and if it does I'd eat my hat and be your milkman for a week.

**** why don't we just take your ideas and go one further and ban going over 30 all together? That way both the honey badger and your children on their bicycles would be safe and the fields would be green for many years to come (they won't, it'll just be colder and more rainy)

Edit: I forgot to mention that in this countries seemingly endless and relentless attack on speed and infact anything even slightly fun, you forgot to note that compared to 50 years ago, there are nearly 7 times as many cars on the roads and yet there are 3 times the number of deaths. Vehicle numbers aside, we are using cars far more often than before as well.

The accident rate has been near enough the same for the last 8 or 9 years - there's only so much you can do to reduce it, there will be a point where you can't have any less because there is only so much space.

[Rusty Bullet]

I'm about as old as my shoe size actually.

That may just be your I.Q.

No-one dies from speed do they?

Sadly, Donald Campbell is not able to join the forum at this juncture.

[Biker1]

Sadly, Donald Campbell is not able to join the forum at this juncture.

If you read on from say post 11 in this thread you will see that some learned friends are of the opinion that speed does not cause crashes.
Discuss

[Andy Capp]

If you read on from say post 11 in this thread you will see that some learned friends are of the opinion that speed does not cause crashes.
Discuss

Why when we have already done it? Or do you just enjoy arguing?

[Biker1]

Why when we have already done it?

Because there are some on here who disagree and think that speed DOES cause accidents.

Or do you just enjoy arguing?

Yes, as do you!!