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Rural Homes not on gas grid will have major problem, Upcoming changes |
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Feb 1 2018, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (gel @ Feb 1 2018, 10:51 AM) Big Problems Around The Corner:
Like many around West Berkshire I'm an Oil user for heating/hot water.
Alarmed to see in a trade magazine that the Government is intent on phasing out "off grid" appliances (eg oil) by as early as 2022. Perhaps cravenly following some EU edict?
Presumably initially would apply to New Builds not being signed off under Building Regs. if the builder had installed an oil or Calor heating system.
But will they also extend to banning existing users having an oil boiler replaced? Failure to comply with the new Regs. leads to unlimited fines apparently, as will apply with the updated Part L Building Regs from April 2018 regards fitting of any new boiler.
Article references DEVIZES; there 60% of the 25,000 dwellings are on oil; that constituency is represented by Claire Perry, the Minister of State for Climate Change & Industry.
Hopefully this'll get delayed ad infinitum, as getting all existing oil users to use electricity makes no sense as we're on a wafer's edge regards supply already. Surely LPG is "off grid" also?
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Feb 1 2018, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 1 2018, 09:48 AM) Surely LPG is "off grid" also? Yes absolutely, hence my reference to Calor; unsure if solid fuel falls within the scope too?
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Feb 2 2018, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Feb 1 2018, 08:51 AM) Big Problems Around The Corner:
Perhaps cravenly following some EU edict? That's an interesting point to add, is there any reason for it? Is it based on something I mean or just something you've made up in your mind?
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Feb 2 2018, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 2 2018, 06:09 PM) EU targets on Co2 emissions. Which the UK actually promoted!
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Feb 2 2018, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 2 2018, 07:40 PM) And? Your point is? Pretty obvious if you'd bothered to read the rest of the thread. Or should I spell it out?
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Feb 2 2018, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 2 2018, 08:13 PM) Pretty obvious if you'd bothered to read the rest of the thread. Or should I spell it out? Might be easier if you get an adult to do it.
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Feb 3 2018, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 2 2018, 10:21 PM) Might be easier if you get an adult to do it. Your Carer presumably?
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Feb 3 2018, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 3 2018, 07:41 PM) Stock markets at record highs, exports booming, sterlings gaining against the dollar and the euro, why worry? Dead right, and will you, the classic, local little man actually benefit? Quite possibly today and so your ambition will be fulfilled, but, even you must admit, that achievable as it will be, that ambition was necessarily limited. Again, no issue with that, save to survive on our own in the future, we really need business people with a lot more fire in their bellies. As you rightly say; why worry, tomorrow is for the next generation.
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Feb 4 2018, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 3 2018, 09:33 PM) Dead right, and will you, the classic, local little man actually benefit? Quite possibly today and so your ambition will be fulfilled, but, even you must admit, that achievable as it will be, that ambition was necessarily limited. Again, no issue with that, save to survive on our own in the future, we really need business people with a lot more fire in their bellies. As you rightly say; why worry, tomorrow is for the next generation. The next generation know everything, they keep telling me that, so let them manage, same as I had to. Oh and I import my base units from China, re engineer here and them resell throughout the UK and parts of europe. Not bad for someone who started out by banging out second hand ex rental TV's.
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Feb 4 2018, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 4 2018, 12:00 AM) Indeed, it says a great deal; nothing can take that away. I think fir me, at least, you've summed up the issues neatly. First, there aren't many of you still around, in the words of Max Miller 'don't make 'em like that any more'. Second, you have to import the base units and third, you have to re-engineer to resell. Just how long before the Supplier sees an extra bit of profit and tries to do your bit too; which is, of course, the classic free market model.
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