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Nov 7 2015, 03:40 PM
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I’ve made a petition – will you sign it? Click this link to sign the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/11...00G18fxTIBIbydUMy petition: Make 5th November into a new bank holiday Currently there is a 4 month gap between the late summer and the Christmas/New Year bank holidays in the United Kingdom. Celebrating 5th November would both bridge this gap and also introduce a truly national holiday for the whole United Kingdom, thereby commemorating a truly important anniversary.
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Nov 7 2015, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Nov 7 2015, 03:40 PM) I've made a petition – will you sign it? Click this link to sign the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/11...00G18fxTIBIbydU My petition: Make 5th November into a new bank holiday Currently there is a 4 month gap between the late summer and the Christmas/New Year bank holidays in the United Kingdom. Celebrating 5th November would both bridge this gap and also introduce a truly national holiday for the whole United Kingdom, thereby commemorating a truly important anniversary. Only if the government pay the wages of the staff for the day.
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Nov 8 2015, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Nov 7 2015, 03:40 PM) I’ve made a petition – will you sign it? Click this link to sign the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/11...00G18fxTIBIbydUMy petition: Make 5th November into a new bank holiday Currently there is a 4 month gap between the late summer and the Christmas/New Year bank holidays in the United Kingdom. Celebrating 5th November would both bridge this gap and also introduce a truly national holiday for the whole United Kingdom, thereby commemorating a truly important anniversary. Mr Trinder, A petition in easy times are commendable, but in hard times a luxury too far. No, not more holidays, but more backs to the walls to get this economy working. For my sins I work almost 5 days a week and have the weekend for myself. That is surely enough? Pick up your shovel and start digging Mr Trinder and shows those that only want to live on the welfare state for nothing is wrong. We must be the country of work, not a layabout and knockabout society. Britain had a great Empire because of hard work and a strong mentality. Think again Mr Trinder, think for the greater good and blow your petition back into the wind. Yours, Petra
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Nov 8 2015, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Nov 7 2015, 04:40 PM) I’ve made a petition – will you sign it? Click this link to sign the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/11...00G18fxTIBIbydUMy petition: Make 5th November into a new bank holiday Currently there is a 4 month gap between the late summer and the Christmas/New Year bank holidays in the United Kingdom. Celebrating 5th November would both bridge this gap and also introduce a truly national holiday for the whole United Kingdom, thereby commemorating a truly important anniversary. Good idea in principle, however, a more suitable celebration would be better. It is true the provision of public holidays in Britain is in deficit when compared to other European nations.
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Nov 8 2015, 01:06 PM
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Sorry James, I'm not a big fan of November 5th, it scares my dogs and I don't particularly want to encourage the celebration of seventeenth century religious intolerance. I do agree though that the end of the year is short a public holiday, and I think public holidays are something to be encouraged if they bring communities together, so I would support the proposal to make Apple Day a public holiday around 30 October, celebrating as it does our agrarian traditions and the old religion.
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Nov 8 2015, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (Petra @ Nov 8 2015, 09:50 AM) , A petition in easy times are commendable, but in hard times a luxury too far. No, not more holidays, but more backs to the walls to get this economy working. I agree. We are not having the best of times in the small business world and forcing public bank holidays into the employer's balance sheet is not what should be happening. Excellent for the government in the popularity stakes but if that's what they want, give industry the opportunity to claim back their wages and on cost expenditure from our "generous" government.
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Nov 8 2015, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Nov 8 2015, 01:40 PM) I agree. We are not having the best of times in the small business world and forcing public bank holidays into the employer's balance sheet is not what should be happening. Excellent for the government in the popularity stakes but if that's what they want, give industry the opportunity to claim back their wages and on cost expenditure from our "generous" government. Employers already have this as bank holidays can count towards your annual entitlements.
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Nov 8 2015, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 8 2015, 07:53 PM) How about Independence Day - celebrating the day we separated from the USA. Great idea, but it hasn't happened yet. Let's scrap Trident for a start.
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Nov 9 2015, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 9 2015, 01:23 AM) Ooooh, you lefty you! I'm just warming up. I admire Jeremy Corbyn's approach to politics and like much of his policy ideas and I've recently joined the Labour Party.
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Nov 9 2015, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Nov 9 2015, 10:34 AM) I'm just warming up. I admire Jeremy Corbyn's approach to politics and like much of his policy ideas and I've recently joined the Labour Party. Personally, I think he's dangerous. His views on defense are naive and while they may be populist in some quarters he could well take us on a course from which we may not recover and come home safe from.
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Nov 9 2015, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 9 2015, 10:08 AM) Personally, I think he's dangerous. His views on defense are naive and while they may be populist in some quarters he could well take us on a course from which we may not recover and come home safe from. Certainly once we start thinking about nuclear conflict or defence, politics on both sides is fraught with danger. I'm by no means convinced that the massive number and types of nuclear weapons we have are of any more deterrent value than just one. Also, like it or not, the base technologies are the same, it worries me greatly that we do not have the national skill sets to design and operate nuclear power plants, but we apparently do have the skills and knowledge to manage nuclear weapons.
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Nov 9 2015, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 9 2015, 11:17 AM) Certainly once we start thinking about nuclear conflict or defence, politics on both sides is fraught with danger. I'm by no means convinced that the massive number and types of nuclear weapons we have are of any more deterrent value than just one. Also, like it or not, the base technologies are the same, it worries me greatly that we do not have the national skill sets to design and operate nuclear power plants, but we apparently do have the skills and knowledge to manage nuclear weapons. Very much so. Trident was a deterrent against the very specific threat from Russia and it is designed specifically to overcome the anti-ballistic missile defences of Moscow. None of that makes it a particularly effective detetrent against any conceivable threat to the UK, the majority of which are from irregular warfare from nations whose beef is with the imperialist oppression of the USA - hosting an American missile system (albeit with a British warhead) simply attracts hostile attention to what would otherwise be a peaceful banorthern European backwater. If the pro-Trident brigade had any idea about what they wanted they'd actually be demanding a WE177 replacement. And yes, the very real question of energy security is completely ignored and we would be so much better off by instead investing the enormous cost of Trident in our domestic energy generation and providing free university education for the genetation of scientists and engineers who will run it.
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Nov 9 2015, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 9 2015, 11:17 AM) Certainly once we start thinking about nuclear conflict or defence, politics on both sides is fraught with danger. I'm by no means convinced that the massive number and types of nuclear weapons we have are of any more deterrent value than just one. Also, like it or not, the base technologies are the same, it worries me greatly that we do not have the national skill sets to design and operate nuclear power plants, but we apparently do have the skills and knowledge to manage nuclear weapons. But we only have one type - Trident.
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Nov 9 2015, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 9 2015, 12:15 PM) But we only have one type - Trident. 'Trident' I can recall an old friend of mine explaining badge engineering.....Nonetheless, there are still quite few of those though. Also, for this debate, we aren't actually on our own, our friends stockpile needs to be considered! How many times do we need to blast the planet to destruction?
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Nov 10 2015, 11:13 AM
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I would go for Trafalgar Day - 21st October. two reasons: 1) it links pretty well with the half-term holiday anyway, and 2) it will annoy the French
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