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je suis Charlie
post Nov 20 2017, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 20 2017, 02:52 PM) *
In my case my indiscretion was accidental, often what people say is deliberate. I also disgree that breaking the law is always unacceptable, especially if the law is ‘unacceptable’.

There we go then, save billions, don't bother with a legal system or indeed government, just ask AC what laws we should obey! Perfick!


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Andy Capp
post Nov 20 2017, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 20 2017, 05:04 PM) *
There we go then, save billions, don't bother with a legal system or indeed government, just ask AC what laws we should obey! Perfick!

Having no laws is unlikely to save billions.
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post Nov 20 2017, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 20 2017, 05:09 PM) *
Having no laws is unlikely to save billions.

Didn't say we shouldn't have any, just that we should rely on your undoubted expertise to be the arbiter of which ones need obeying.


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Andy Capp
post Nov 20 2017, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 20 2017, 04:39 PM) *
Which laws are 'unacceptable' in your book?

Were unacceptable? Most if not all those that have been removed or overruled, including ‘anti-gay’ and blasphemy laws.
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post Nov 20 2017, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 20 2017, 05:13 PM) *
Didn't say we shouldn't have any, just that we should rely on your undoubted expertise to be the arbiter of which ones need obeying.

Ok, but who said I wanted the job?
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post Nov 20 2017, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 20 2017, 05:18 PM) *
Ok, but who said I wanted the job?

Well, it would seem to suit a self opinionated spazzy gob****e, an your just standing around, so?


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post Nov 20 2017, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 20 2017, 05:39 PM) *
Well, it would seem to suit a self opinionated spazzy gob****e, an your just standing around, so?

Exactly; I didn’t say I wanted to decided what was right or not, but it stands to reason that just because something is the law that breaking the law is always unacceptable.
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post Nov 20 2017, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 20 2017, 04:39 PM) *
Which laws are 'unacceptable' in your book?


Maybe the ones that he has "contravened".
If you don't accept the laws of a Country then either lobby for Parliamentary change or live somewhere else .


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post Nov 20 2017, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 20 2017, 05:52 PM) *
Exactly; I didn’t say I wanted to decided what was right or not, but it stands to reason that just because something is the law that breaking the law is always unacceptable.

Judge Cap!! Here come da judge!


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post Nov 20 2017, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 20 2017, 06:10 PM) *
Maybe the ones that he has "contravened".

Considering I had no intention if breaking the law, despite my being cynical of its motives, you have no foundation for that argument.

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 20 2017, 06:10 PM) *
If you don't accept the laws of a Country then either lobby for Parliamentary change or live somewhere else .

Sorry, no can do I’m afraid.
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post Nov 21 2017, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 20 2017, 06:10 PM) *
Maybe the ones that he has "contravened".
If you don't accept the laws of a Country then either lobby for Parliamentary change or live somewhere else .

I wouldn’t say unacceptable but I do think a 70mph speed limit is daft often. I also think it should be open season on middle lane huggers. I confess to never driving under 85/90 on motorways when able.

My record speeding offence is 104 on the A34. No ban.
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post Nov 21 2017, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 21 2017, 07:47 AM) *
I wouldn’t say unacceptable but I do think a 70mph speed limit is daft often. I also think it should be open season on middle lane huggers. I confess to never driving under 85/90 on motorways when able.

My record speeding offence is 104 on the A34. No ban.


We all agree that one driver may safely be in control at speeds in excess of the limit while the next is dangerous at 50 mph., but raising the limit gives only a green light to the bad as opposed to exonerating the competent .
Instead of wasting money on "driverless " technology , would it not be sensible to have onboard monitors which would record the ability of the driver at the time as opposed to a thick red line which , as you freely admit , is mainly ignored ?


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post Nov 21 2017, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 21 2017, 09:24 AM) *
We all agree that one driver may safely be in control at speeds in excess of the limit while the next is dangerous at 50 mph., but raising the limit gives only a green light to the bad as opposed to exonerating the competent .
Instead of wasting money on "driverless " technology , would it not be sensible to have onboard monitors which would record the ability of the driver at the time as opposed to a thick red line which , as you freely admit , is mainly ignored ?


Already here, most large fleet operators use them to the chagrin of their drivers! For high end vehicles this technology also locks into theft tracking etc. However, the 'Clarkson Tendancy ' keeps it commercially limited.

In any event, I'm not sure I'd like Newres insurance bill! (It's likely to be this sector pushing for greater adoption)


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post Nov 21 2017, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 21 2017, 11:45 AM) *
Already here, most large fleet operators use them to the chagrin of their drivers! For high end vehicles this technology also locks into theft tracking etc. However, the 'Clarkson Tendancy ' keeps it commercially limited.

In any event, I'm not sure I'd like Newres insurance bill! (It's likely to be this sector pushing for greater adoption)


From a lay perspective I consider the average car driver a great deal more dangerous than an HGV operator , indeed one of the major causes of accidents are drivers not being aware that a lorry is not going to overtake as quickly as an Audi A3 . Now we can argue ad infinitum about HGV overtaking procedure but the reality is that they are as entitled to drive at a speed that conditions dictate as the euro hatchback owner that believes it is somehow privileged .


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post Nov 21 2017, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 20 2017, 02:52 PM) *
In my case my indiscretion was accidental, often what people say is deliberate. I also disgree that breaking the law is always unacceptable, especially if the law is ‘unacceptable’.


Back in the day it was "acceptable" to go down the local have five pints and drive home. You were "unlucky" if you got caught. Now you are seen as a danger to all and quite rightly so. Perhaps in a few years when driverless cars ensure people stay under the speed limit your actions will be deemed senseless and moronic. Just saying...
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post Nov 21 2017, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 21 2017, 02:50 PM) *
Back in the day it was "acceptable" to go down the local have five pints and drive home. You were "unlucky" if you got caught. Now you are seen as a danger to all and quite rightly so. Perhaps in a few years when driverless cars ensure people stay under the speed limit your actions will be deemed senseless and moronic. Just saying...

Drinking 5 pints then driving would usually be deliberate; my speeding was not; I didn’t want to speed.
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post Nov 21 2017, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2017, 06:34 PM) *
Drinking 5 pints then driving would usually be deliberate; my speeding was not; I didn’t want to speed.


Enlighten us please . If you did not intend to exceed the speed limit then why did you ? Or was it a case of a "dodgy" speedometer ?


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post Nov 21 2017, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2017, 06:34 PM) *
Drinking 5 pints then driving would usually be deliberate; my speeding was not; I didn’t want to speed.

I didn't want to speed! What an arsehat, did the Devil make you do it? Or did your 'dyslexia' stop you from reading the roadsigns? Unbelievable!


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post Nov 21 2017, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 21 2017, 07:06 PM) *
Enlighten us please . If you did not intend to exceed the speed limit then why did you ? Or was it a case of a "dodgy" speedometer ?
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 21 2017, 07:35 PM) *
I didn't want to speed! What an arsehat, did the Devil make you do it? Or did your 'dyslexia' stop you from reading the roadsigns? Unbelievable!

I wasn't paying attention to my speed; had I known I was doing a bit more than the limit, I'd have slowed down.

I would imagine in both your lives there have been countless moments you have done things that you had not intended to do so I fail to see how outrageous a claim mine is.
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post Nov 21 2017, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2017, 08:26 PM) *
I wasn't paying attention to my speed; had I known I was doing a bit more than the limit, I'd have slowed down.

Could've, should've, would've! Not great as a defense if you'd knocked a child down is it.


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