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post Apr 6 2018, 07:45 PM
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Interesting and tragic case.

I fully sympathise with the home owner but has this not now set a precedent?

If you are being burgled violently do you have the right to protect you and your family by any means necessary?

Hopefully this makes burglars think twice. Though I doubt it as most have drug issues.
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Andy Capp
post Apr 7 2018, 09:34 AM
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I thought stop and search still existed? What was stopped was stop and search because they is black, in other words, it had to be for reasons other than the colour of their skin,
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post Apr 7 2018, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 7 2018, 10:34 AM) *
I thought stop and search still existed? What was stopped was stop and search because they is black, in other words, it had to be for reasons other than the colour of their skin,


Exactly; the Met decided not to use these powers generally after formal enquiries revealed that they were abusing their authority usually in the way you describe.


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post Apr 7 2018, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 7 2018, 12:53 PM) *
Exactly; the Met decided not to use these powers generally after formal enquiries revealed that they were abusing their authority usually in the way you describe.

They were using profiling. If you are young and black in London you are more likely to carry a knife or be a victim of a knife attack than white or asian youngsters. That's just an unfortunate fact. Abandoning profiling is a mistake. Its uncomfortable but the other choice is lots more dead black teenagers. You can't have it both ways.
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