A34 speed limit petition Options

[TallDarkAndHands...]

True, however, I was thinking of idiot book and Twitter, not to mention insternoob! The true curse of the age.

The twitterartii. Where the millionaires like Gary and Lilly can moan about how unfair life is for the poor. Whilst sitting on multi million pound fortunes. Oh to be so rich that you can be so "moral"...

[newres]

The twitterartii. Where the millionaires like Gary and Lilly can moan about how unfair life is for the poor.

Deliberate irony? Puts me in mind of Nigel Farage and Donald Trump.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Deliberate irony? Puts me in mind of Nigel Farage and Donald Trump.

Yep. The deliverer of Brexit and the new leader of the free world.
And a drunk pop star and a millionaire has been footballer.
#Frexit #Nexit

[newres]

Yep. The deliverer of Brexit and the new leader of the free world.

Both gained victory by pretending to be on the side of the poor, disenfranchised white man.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Both gained victory by pretending to be on the side of the poor, disenfranchised white man.

White man? How dare anyone appeal to that scum?

[user23]

The twitterartii. Where the millionaires like Gary and Lilly can moan about how unfair life is for the poor. Whilst sitting on multi million pound fortunes. Oh to be so rich that you can be so "moral"...

Are they meant to say nothing then?

I like this quote: “When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.”

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Are they meant to say nothing then?

I like this quote: “When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.”

I am happy to talk about equality. Its more positive than talking about inequality. Whats your definition of equality? Mine probably differs from yours.

[x2lls]

In regard to the original post, which appears miles away.

A solution to the short entry merge junctions on the a34 (and, I may add, the a34/a303) would be a speed restriction at the junctions. Drop the speed with the much hated ASC. Job done with no bulldozers, minimal timescales and importantly for the money , less cost.

[JeffG]

Drop the speed with the much hated ASC.

Much hated? By whom? By those who ignore speed limits?

I don't mind them. I just set cruise control to 50 or whatever it is, and hope that those that pass me get caught.

[x2lls]

Much hated? By whom? By those who ignore speed limits?

I don't mind them. I just set cruise control to 50 or whatever it is, and hope that those that pass me get caught.

That wasn't the point of my comment.

[Andy Capp]

Much hated? By whom? By those who ignore speed limits?

I hate them.

[Biker1]

In regard to the original post, which appears miles away.

A solution to the short entry merge junctions on the a34 (and, I may add, the a34/a303) would be a speed restriction at the junctions. Drop the speed with the much hated ASC. Job done with no bulldozers, minimal timescales and importantly for the money , less cost.

There is always a downside to every potential solution.
Presuming that you mean speed limits on the main carriageway at junctions and not just on the slip roads?
Sudden braking from 70 - 80mph and consequential shunts from those travelling too close?
Monitoring and implementing fines?
All these so called solutions all seem to remove the reason for the road which was built, as we know from by-pass protest days, as a high speed link between the South Coast and the Midlands.
The whole thing is a balance between speed and danger with time and safety being the deciding factors.
If safety is the prime concern then maybe the whole road should be restricted to 30mph.
Most lives would be saved at the expense of time spent.
If time (and therefore money) is the main factor then the loss of life / injury is the price we must pay it would seem.
What is the happy medium??

[JeffG]

That wasn't the point of my comment.

But you made a separate point by using that adjective. I was querying that. Why, in your view, are they hated?

[x2lls]

There is always a downside to every potential solution.
Presuming that you mean speed limits on the main carriageway at junctions and not just on the slip roads?
Sudden braking from 70 - 80mph and consequential shunts from those travelling too close?
Monitoring and implementing fines?
All these so called solutions all seem to remove the reason for the road which was built, as we know from by-pass protest days, as a high speed link between the South Coast and the Midlands.
The whole thing is a balance between speed and danger with time and safety being the deciding factors.
If safety is the prime concern then maybe the whole road should be restricted to 30mph.
Most lives would be saved at the expense of time spent.
If time (and therefore money) is the main factor then the loss of life / injury is the price we must pay it would seem.
What is the happy medium??

Where did that one come from?

[x2lls]

But you made a separate point by using that adjective. I was querying that. Why, in your view, are they hated?

That question is an example of why posts morph. Stick to the point. try page one again.

[Biker1]

Where did that one come from?

Well, you have a dual carriageway speed restricted at 70mph but, as we well know, most travel faster than that.
If you have speed restrictions, at a suggested 50mph, at every junction then inevitably there will be braking to comply with the ASC's and, as we also know, folks travel too close and will therefore shunt those braking in front of them.
I know it shouldn't happen, but it would.
P.S. Especially if they are on the phone!!

[Andy Capp]

But you made a separate point by using that adjective. I was querying that. Why, in your view, are they hated?

He said they are hated, which is true, not that he necessarily hates them.

[On the edge]

Driverless vehicles will eliminate the problem with no physical change. They aren't that far off, so the cost benefit case for any major expenditure will be difficult to make. We might just have to live with things as they are.

[x2lls]

He said they are hated, which is true, not that he necessarily hates them.

Thank you!!

[HJD]

Well, you have a dual carriageway speed restricted at 70mph but, as we well know, most travel faster than that.

I think keeping to the speed limit is mainly ignored by most drivers on most roads these days. A lot drive up & down the Link more near 70 than 50, the manic idiot that continues to hurtle round the Ecchinswell lanes etc. Where there are no ASCs the chances of getting caught with the lack of Patrol Police is minimal whatever road you are on I'm afraid.