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Andy Capp
post Jun 7 2017, 08:09 PM
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True or not, this is an interesting read: https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2017/06/07/...plicit-content/
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post Nov 6 2017, 01:10 PM
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PR is the obvious route but how do you get a diverse cross section of opinion to agree on anything ? When the Greeks developed democracy they abandoned it almost as quickly because it took 3 months to decide who was going to make the tea .
What we need are those who stand for office to approach their position with a view to the good of the Country and not the minority pressure groups that see fit to court favour . This would negate the need for an upper house at a stroke .


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post Nov 6 2017, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 6 2017, 01:10 PM) *
PR is the obvious route but how do you get a diverse cross section of opinion to agree on anything ? When the Greeks developed democracy they abandoned it almost as quickly because it took 3 months to decide who was going to make the tea .
What we need are those who stand for office to approach their position with a view to the good of the Country and not the minority pressure groups that see fit to court favour . This would negate the need for an upper house at a stroke .


The trouble is, of course, with PR you inevitably end up with rule by minority pressure groups. A rainbow coalitions in power for decades.
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post Nov 6 2017, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Nov 6 2017, 03:56 PM) *
The trouble is, of course, with PR you inevitably end up with rule by minority pressure groups.

Got any examples of minority pressure groups ruling countries?
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