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Jul 30 2010, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 30 2010, 02:44 PM) The HRA was designed purposely to prevent governments and countries from treating people in the way you seem to endorse.
People don't chose where and who they are born to. I don't see why we should have any more rights than anyone else just because we had the good fortune to be born somewhere benign like the UK. Immigration is a small price to pay for that privilege. At last a civilized and humane comment. Well done.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 30 2010, 02:57 PM) according to your earlier post they go missing & we get stiffed. Now you are saying they are deported. Which is it? Groan. I'm sorry Dannyboy but I can't keep explaining things to you if you don't understand.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 30 2010, 02:58 PM) Do you think we should stop French, Irish, German people, working in Britain too? No, do you?. What has that to do with this NWN article?
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Jul 30 2010, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 30 2010, 03:06 PM) Groan. I'm sorry Dannyboy but I can't keep explaining things to you if you don't understand. You are right - I don't understand . One post you are implying they are not deported & then next you are saying they are.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 30 2010, 03:07 PM) No, do you?. What has that to do with this NWN article? You are advocating that Afghan children who come to this country should be deported. I just wondered if you felt this way about all foreign nationals.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 30 2010, 03:09 PM) You are advocating that Afghan children who come to this country should be deported. I just wondered if you felt this way about all foreign nationals. any foreign nationals that come here on the back of a lorry, should be deported regardless of age or were they came from,our economy is struggling as it is without the extra strain of all immigrants.its not fair that people who are born here are struggling to get by and being made redundant yet people can come to this country on the back of a lorry and have everything paid for.its just not right.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 30 2010, 02:56 PM) At what point does a country say no, no more, we just cannot sustain any more immigrants because of environmental, financial or any other reason. Is this true? QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 30 2010, 02:56 PM) You seem to advocate letting in anyone at anytime. My view is that we should look more sympathetically on the people of countries that don't have the same advantages as us, often countries that under pin our comfortable existence.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 30 2010, 12:46 PM) Yes of course it is but the responsibility of looking after these children should not be decided by how far they can get in a lorry before being accidentally discovered it should be by agreement across the United Nations or the EC that these children should be accomodated and shared amongst the participating countries. It is totally unreasonable that Briain should be picking up the tab to look after them all particularly when we are in an economic turmoil. The fact that we are assisting in the Afghan war effort has nothing to do with it and in fact if we and the Americams were not there the Afhgan people would be in an even worse position. Are you suggesting then that the boy would have come all this way if there was no ware in Afghanistan ? I doubt it.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE (englishndproud @ Jul 30 2010, 03:25 PM) any foreign nationals that come here on the back of a lorry, should be deported regardless of age or were they came from,our economy is struggling as it is without the extra strain of all immigrants.its not fair that people who are born here are struggling to get by and being made redundant yet people can come to this country on the back of a lorry and have everything paid for.its just not right. They do not have 'everything paid for'. They just want to become a part of our society. You seem to think that these people are going to like on benefits for the rest of their lives.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Jul 30 2010, 03:27 PM) Are you suggesting then that the boy would have come all this way if there was no ware in Afghanistan ? I doubt it. No I'm not suggesting that but it is a possibility. However my point was that if he were seeking asylum why not do it in the first democratic country he first arrived in?
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Jul 30 2010, 02:36 PM
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I find some of the comments here shocking - these are after all children and extremely vulnerable. They will have left behind horrific conditions, and suffered an equally horrific journey to get here, because they understood this to be a country that would offer them sanctuary, show them compassion and take care of their needs. But it would seem that some would happily send them back there, or would they prefer to turn a blind eye and let them fend for themselves on our streets?
Thank goodness opinions like that are in a minority, and thank goodness for the foster carers who are happy to give them the warmth, love and care at a time when they need it.
I would guess that many of those posting comments here are parents also, as I am, and I'm sure we would all hope that our children would be offered the kindness of strangers should they ever be facing some sort of trauma or crisis that we, as parents, were unable to help them with.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 30 2010, 03:36 PM) No I'm not suggesting that but it is a possibility. However my point was that if he were seeking asylum why not do it in the first democratic country he first arrived in? Because they don't speak English there.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 30 2010, 03:28 PM) They do not have 'everything paid for'. The boys in the NWN article will.
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Jul 30 2010, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 30 2010, 03:38 PM) The boys in the NWN article will. Yes they will as they are children. But the post to which I was replying was not about children but assylum seekers in general.
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Jul 30 2010, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Jul 30 2010, 12:41 PM) a safe place for this illegal immigrant to live in? You are mixing up your Daily Mail-isms. He is presumably seeking asylum. QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 30 2010, 03:37 PM) Because they don't speak English there. Nor did the boy according to the report. Ideally he should have stayed in Greece, where he entered the EU.
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Jul 30 2010, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jul 30 2010, 04:03 PM) Nor did the boy according to the report. Ideally he should have stayed in Greece, where he entered the EU. Then there would be an inequality for the countries that flank the country asylum seekers come from. They would have to shoulder an unfair burden. Remembering also that Greece is in much worse state than we are when it comes to national finance. To echo a previous point, we are talking about children here, not rats.
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Jul 30 2010, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 30 2010, 05:02 PM) Does this not frighten or concern some of you? No it does not frighten me, although the volume of immigration is a concern, but we are talking about the asylum of children.
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Jul 30 2010, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 30 2010, 05:02 PM) Does this not frighten or concern some of you? No. Why should I be frightened?
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Jul 30 2010, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 30 2010, 05:02 PM) Does this not frighten or concern some of you? Since you ask, no - not at all
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