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post Apr 6 2018, 07:45 PM
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Interesting and tragic case.

I fully sympathise with the home owner but has this not now set a precedent?

If you are being burgled violently do you have the right to protect you and your family by any means necessary?

Hopefully this makes burglars think twice. Though I doubt it as most have drug issues.
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post Apr 10 2018, 08:21 AM
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Once more a relevant topic of conversation degenerates into a mud slinging fracas. As my old form master to used to say when dealing with squabbling 3rd formers "I have no wish to know who started it only to inform you that I am the one to end it".
By all means criticise the opinion but name calling is neither nice for the recipient nor those who wish to make a valid point.


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post Apr 10 2018, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Apr 10 2018, 09:21 AM) *
Once more a relevant topic of conversation degenerates into a mud slinging fracas. As my old form master to used to say when dealing with squabbling 3rd formers "I have no wish to know who started it only to inform you that I am the one to end it".
By all means criticise the opinion but name calling is neither nice for the recipient nor those who wish to make a valid point.

Unfortunately there's no end to it. As soon as some horrendous views on here are challenged, the insults start. It's possible to be robust without resorting to name calling. I admit in the last week lowering myself to it when accusing one particularly unpleasant member of being a drunk. In my defence, the posts from the person concerned often contain clear evidence of not reading properly what's written and incoherent name calling.
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post Apr 11 2018, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 10 2018, 03:10 PM) *
Unfortunately there's no end to it. As soon as some horrendous views on here are challenged, the insults start. It's possible to be robust without resorting to name calling. I admit in the last week lowering myself to it when accusing one particularly unpleasant member of being a drunk. In my defence, the posts from the person concerned often contain clear evidence of not reading properly what's written and incoherent name calling.

State these 'horrendous' views. And lets not pretend you're innocent of being abusive either.
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- TallDarkAndHandsome   Burglar killed   Apr 6 2018, 07:45 PM
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