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Dec 6 2010, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 11:11 AM) It maybe boring but he still has every right to write what he wants. No he doesn't. Not on here at least. This is a private forum, provided by the Newbury Weekly News, for people to use free of charge. Ultimately the say of those providing these facilities is final, so I see little point going on about "rights".
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Dec 6 2010, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE (massifheed @ Dec 6 2010, 11:36 AM) No he doesn't. Not on here at least. This is a private forum, provided by the Newbury Weekly News, for people to use free of charge. Ultimately the say of those providing these facilities is final, so I see little point going on about "rights". It is not Private - open to everyone. If the NWN have a problem with him writing what he does then I am sure he would be told. It is not up to forum writers to tell someone what they can and can't write - however annoying.
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Dec 6 2010, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 01:50 PM) It is not Private - open to everyone. If the NWN have a problem with him writing what he does then I am sure he would be told. It is not up to forum writers to tell someone what they can and can't write - however annoying. I know I said I would shut up on this but yet again the point is missed. Yes he can write whatever he wants and no one can dictate otherwise. (As long as it meets the rules of the forum.) Just filter it out on a political category so those that don't want it "rammed down their throats" can avoid it.
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Dec 6 2010, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 11:50 AM) It is not Private - open to everyone. If the NWN have a problem with him writing what he does then I am sure he would be told. It is not up to forum writers to tell someone what they can and can't write - however annoying. You have to register in order to be given a user account for this forum, which has to be approved by the forum administrator, so it's only open to those who are given accounts. The forum admin could, for any reason they wish, choose not to give someone an account. So it is a private forum, as it's owned by the NWN, although it chooses to give people user accounts and access to the forum free of charge. I think that Richard takes full advantage of the fact that this forum isn't all that heavily moderated. On many other forums a user frequently posting on the same subject would be warned and then blocked if they continued the same behaviour. Richard also does the same over at newbury.net (usually carbon copies of his posts on here) with much the same negative reaction from the users over there. Again, taking full advantage of the fact that Brian doesn't have the spare time to keep moderating the site in the same way that other forums are. This thread wasn't started with the intention of telling Richard what he can and cant post. In fact, I dont think I've seen a single post either here or over at newbury.net where other forum users are telling him what he can post. All the OP said here was that he would like to have a seperate area for Richard to post his political views where others who want to engage can, and those who don't aren't bothered by his many posts on the same subject taking up the rest of the forum where, as is evident from the reaction, people find it annoying in the least. If nothing else, he isn't doing Labour all that many favours.
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Dec 6 2010, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (massifheed @ Dec 6 2010, 12:16 PM) This thread wasn't started with the intention of telling Richard what he can and cant post. In fact, I dont think I've seen a single post either here or over at newbury.net where other forum users are telling him what he can post. All the OP said here was that he would like to have a seperate area for Richard to post his political views where others who want to engage can, and those who don't aren't bothered by his many posts on the same subject taking up the rest of the forum where, as is evident from the reaction, people find it annoying in the least. Hear hear!
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Dec 6 2010, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE (massifheed @ Dec 6 2010, 12:16 PM) You have to register in order to be given a user account for this forum, which has to be approved by the forum administrator, so it's only open to those who are given accounts. The forum admin could, for any reason they wish, choose not to give someone an account. So it is a private forum, as it's owned by the NWN, although it chooses to give people user accounts and access to the forum free of charge.
I think that Richard takes full advantage of the fact that this forum isn't all that heavily moderated. On many other forums a user frequently posting on the same subject would be warned and then blocked if they continued the same behaviour. Richard also does the same over at newbury.net (usually carbon copies of his posts on here) with much the same negative reaction from the users over there. Again, taking full advantage of the fact that Brian doesn't have the spare time to keep moderating the site in the same way that other forums are.
This thread wasn't started with the intention of telling Richard what he can and cant post. In fact, I dont think I've seen a single post either here or over at newbury.net where other forum users are telling him what he can post. All the OP said here was that he would like to have a seperate area for Richard to post his political views where others who want to engage can, and those who don't aren't bothered by his many posts on the same subject taking up the rest of the forum where, as is evident from the reaction, people find it annoying in the least.
If nothing else, he isn't doing Labour all that many favours. Thanks for explaining to me how you have to be registered As we know, Richard is registered so CAN post what he likes. If no one likes what he writes just ignore it, then the post will get dropped down the list, or he will get the message not everyone is intrested in what he says. Anyway, I seriously find a post being made about an individual quite embarrassing and against guidelines.
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Dec 6 2010, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 12:28 PM) Thanks for explaining to me how you have to be registered Wow, sarcasm, great! I thought you needed a hand with the explanation as you stated that Richard had every right to post what he liked, when clearly, he doesn't. Also, you didn't seem to "get" that this is, in fact, a private forum, as it's owned by the NWN. All clear now? QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 12:28 PM) As we know, Richard is registered so CAN post what he likes. As I've mentioned before, I think Richard takes full advantage of the laid-back moderation on here, and over at newbury.net. Many other forums would have issued a warning long ago. QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 12:28 PM) If no one likes what he writes just ignore it, then the post will get dropped down the list, or he will get the message not everyone is intrested in what he says. It's a nice idea, but non-political threads started by others where Richard happens to post often have a habit of turning political. Either by something that he says which takes the thread off-topic, or by something that someone else says that does the same. Those threads then become just one of many political "back and forth" threads where the original posters point gets lost completely. Also, when it has been a bit quiet on the political front, he will on occasion start a thread which could be argued has no political leaning, but which he knows could quickly turn that way once others start posting, allowing him to get back to the business of plugging Labour and having a go at the Tories. QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 12:28 PM) Anyway, I seriously find a post being made about an individual quite embarrassing and against guidelines. Well, take your own advice and ignore the thread!
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Dec 6 2010, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 5 2010, 10:28 PM) That this forum has been virtually taken over by your own political ends and, as has been highlighted before here, that many do not want one persons political views to be injected into almost every topic. By separating out your threads it gives those people a chance to avoid and, inherently, those who do wish to participate, a way of ensuring that they are directed to where they want to be. I know it won't happen, but I was just trying to highlight that this is not the "Richard Garvie" forum. Ahhh, but is it really him? We are all assuming he is who he says he is, but maybe he's an imposter? Will the real Richard Garvie please stand up?!!!!
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Dec 6 2010, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 01:20 PM) Wow, sarcasm, great! I thought you needed a hand with the explanation as you stated that Richard had every right to post what he liked, when clearly, he doesn't. Also, you didn't seem to "get" that this is, in fact, a private forum, as it's owned by the NWN. All clear now?
No I need no explanation thank you. He does have a right to post what he wants UNTIL the NWN stop him - they haven't so it is none of your business. All clear now?
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Dec 6 2010, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 12:28 PM) Thanks for explaining to me how you have to be registered As we know, Richard is registered so CAN post what he likes. If no one likes what he writes just ignore it, then the post will get dropped down the list, or he will get the message not everyone is intrested in what he says. It's all very well you saying "just ignore it" but if it's a subject that posters are interested in and want to reply to it is incredibly frustrating and damaging to the original subject when someone wants to twist the subject for their own political gains. If, and it has happened, My Garvie wants to post his own personal, not politically motivated views on a subject then I don't think anyone would have a problem. The problem has arisen due to the fact that he is CONTINUALLY preaching his own politics. I have no problem with a healthy debating vehicle as we have here but I do have a problem when one man is trying to shove his politics down my throat ALL the time!
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Dec 6 2010, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 5 2010, 09:28 PM) That this forum has been virtually taken over by your own political ends and, as has been highlighted before here, that many do not want one persons political views to be injected into almost every topic. By separating out your threads it gives those people a chance to avoid and, inherently, those who do wish to participate, a way of ensuring that they are directed to where they want to be. I know it won't happen, but I was just trying to highlight that this is not the "Richard Garvie" forum. I will go along with this on the understanding that you do not post anything political on your newly censor shipped site. That means you not having a say on anything the council does, not posting your views on new shops/houses, council tax, petrol charges, GP's, benefit claimants, the state of the roads and potholes. So what shall we talk about on your blue pencil site ..... hmm, where can you get the best cup of coffee in Newbury.
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Dec 6 2010, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Rachel @ Dec 6 2010, 02:49 PM) Ahhh, but is it really him? We are all assuming he is who he says he is, but maybe he's an imposter? Will the real Richard Garvie please stand up?!!!! I'm Richard Garvie.........! PS for what it's worth, I can see both PoV on here. Mr Garvie (or is it me..?) does indeed have a right to post on here but I can also see how people may find it irritating that EVERY SINGLE post is politically based and therefore subverts each thread. not that I'm fence sitting or anything............
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Dec 6 2010, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 6 2010, 10:52 AM) I think you are missing the point. We don't care about your Politics. I don't care if Iommi wants to vote for the Monster Raving loony party, Bloggo want to vote for the National Socialist party and I want to vote for the Miss Whiplash party. I don't mind you commentating on anything at all. It is just 95% of your posts end in Tory bashing. It's just boring. I take it you are three people, Tall and Dark and Handsome? If not, what right have you to talk for anyone else?
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