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post Jan 22 2013, 12:21 PM
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Just thought the forum might be interested in this, plans to introduce additional parking charges in various parts of the town centre - signs went up yesterday. Supposedly to make people move on faster but doesn't restricted parking time do that already. Another potential blow to retailers.

https://www.engagespace.co.uk/westberks/con...&criteria=I

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post Jan 22 2013, 12:34 PM
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On the contrary it "could assist local traders" according to the document. I wonder what the local traders think?

It's pretty shoddy if they can't even get the title typo free.

Actually, the proposal for Newtown Road isn't a bad idea - at the moment traffic going south is forced to use the residents' lay-by to avoid oncoming traffic. Also no impact on local traders here.

What are the signs saying? So far this is just a consultation.
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post Jan 22 2013, 12:43 PM
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"... the charges would apply every day between 8.00 am and 6.00 pm including bank holidays. Parking would be free at all other times and on Sunday there would be a single daily charge of £1.00."

30 minutes - FREE
1 Hour - £1.00


30 minutes - FREE
1 Hour - £1.00
2 Hours - £2.00


2 Hours - £1.00
4 Hours - £2.00
over 4 Hours - £3.80


Residents Parking/Limited Waiting
NO CHARGES
NOTE: Station Road charges are already in place


https://www.engagespace.co.uk/westberks/upl...20St%20area.pdf
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post Jan 22 2013, 01:08 PM
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Why not up to 1 hour = free...
Because you can't really do much in 30 minutes as most women can attest to.


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post Jan 22 2013, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Jan 22 2013, 01:08 PM) *
Why not up to 1 hour = free...
Because you can't really do much in 30 minutes as most women can attest to.

Because one of the reasons for this is to increase parking revenue. The 30 minutes is the concession for local trade. Before, you would have 1 hour then fined, now it is 30 minutes; however, you can pay a £1 to have yourself 1 hour (including bank holidays) . I'm disappointed about Sunday where it is a flat £1.00 fee regardless.
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post Jan 22 2013, 03:45 PM
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Some of these areas discriminate against some motorists. I don't have a mobile 'phone, so some areas I cannot use. and I am sure there are others in the same situation.
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post Jan 22 2013, 04:23 PM
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I fail to see how this will increase turnaround on roads that have 30 minute waiting enforced by officers. It will do the reverse I would think and encourage people to park for longer.

Regardless, it's a done deal. It is as usual a faux consultation.
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post Jan 22 2013, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (Ron @ Jan 22 2013, 03:45 PM) *
I don't have a mobile 'phone, so some areas I cannot use. and I am sure there are others in the same situation.


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I don't think so.


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post Jan 22 2013, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (Ron @ Jan 22 2013, 03:45 PM) *
I don't have a mobile 'phone, so some areas I cannot use. and I am sure there are others in the same situation.

I don't own a mobile phone either. (I DO have a works one but I don't think the boss will be too pleased if I added my parking charges to their bill)
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post Jan 22 2013, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Jan 22 2013, 04:42 PM) *
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I don't think so.

I don't have a mobile phone. of any kind.
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post Jan 22 2013, 08:27 PM
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Why does not having a mobile phone matter?
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post Jan 22 2013, 08:28 PM
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Not having fully read the document, I assumed they would be putting in parking meters, rather than this new-fangled pay-by-phone thing. That can only ever be a secondary payment method, surely.
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post Jan 22 2013, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 22 2013, 08:27 PM) *
Why does not having a mobile phone matter?

Convenience for a start.

I pay £25 a month for my iPhone 4 (I got one of them lame white ones the day it came out). I don't have a home phone line, and it means I always have a means of both being contacted in emergencies or being contactable by friends. I don't have a camera, I use my iPhone, saves having to lug around more stuff (unless I'm at a car show or something in which case I try and borrow a camera from a friend or something).

If your car breaks down and you are say, outside of an immediate town center, which if it does break down will certainly not be in the middle of a town centre, you will be stuck with no rescue. You will rot and your bones will become part of the road, like in that place in Mongolia wot that pair of Bikers went on. You will not be able to easily keep in contact with friends, family, work colleagues, etc.

"Hey Dannyboy, are you in town, if so do you mind picking up some Milk?" your wife asks (I presume you have one rolleyes.gif) - alas, she can't, because you have no mobile phone, so you have to make a second trip. And we all know that traveling kills polar bears. Not only that but your wife is mad at you and you end up sleeping on the couch.

Silly cat face.

There is absolutely no conceivable reason why anyone with any sort of social life or will to have one, would not have a mobile phone. I'm not talking stuck on it 24/7 staring at Facebook but just to, you know, make and receive phone calls, text messages and maybe e-mails. The doors are then open to so much more should it be required. Then again this is a much older bunch.

My Mum has a mobile phone and never takes it with her anywhere. It's always "on the top in the Kitchen". I took her to the Hospital the other day, so drove round to her house to pick her up, expecting to be able to go and grab some lunch while she was having a minor procedure undertaken - (as I was in works time and wanted to eat my Lunch while waiting for my Mum) - only to find she hasn't brought her phone because she "didn't think she would need it". So I couldn't go.

Two thumbs up there.

On the topic of parking, it would be nice for a normal machine to be installed with CHANGE, that actually accepts your 20ps and perhaps has a "pay by card" option as well. Paying to park by phone is just painful.


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post Jan 22 2013, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Jan 22 2013, 01:08 PM) *
Why not up to 1 hour = free...
Because you can't really do much in 30 minutes as most women can attest to.


If we're relying on the length of time women need for shopping/hairdressers then there should presumably be the first 3 hours free? rolleyes.gif

Looking at the various plans it seems that there will be some roads where you will ONLY be able to pay by phone. That's me screwed then as those 'Pay By Phone' include the Faraday Road area and Old Bath Road. I'll have to start parking in a residential road I think.
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post Jan 22 2013, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 22 2013, 08:27 PM) *
Why does not having a mobile phone matter?

some car parking is only payable by phone.
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post Jan 22 2013, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Jan 22 2013, 08:39 PM) *
Conv...............by phone is just painful.



so, £300 a year, assuming you never ever go over tarrif just in case you run out of milk?

Personally I find that if people want to get hold of me they'll email or call the land line. I don't need to be contacted when I'm already out.
30 years ago, before the mobile, people managed. The mobile has made thingd to transient by far.
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post Jan 22 2013, 09:17 PM
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Well considering BT was £12.99 a month line rental...
And like I said, it's more than just milk. It's if you are out and you need to get hold of someone in an emergency. Maybe your mate wants to see if you are around. Emails, ah, have to have internet that you pay for on top of your line rental.. :rollseyes:
There's no way that your life would be "worse" with a mobile phone, only better. You can even buy a cheap regular mobile phone for like £30 and be done with it.


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post Jan 22 2013, 09:31 PM
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I'm not too sure how the free 30 minutes works. If there are parking meters close by, can you press the button and get a ticket for 30 minutes and if you want longer, do you pay up front for an hour and then get a ticket for ninety minutes.

In some of the rail car parks, the telephone parking goes to a collection agency who make the charge against a credit or debit card for which you give them the details on an auto answer system. (card number, expiry, secure code etc.) and the make, colour and reg of your vehicle. This is probably OK as I have used it several times on my credit card, no problems. The second time you give the reg and it automatically uses, with your approval, the card you gave earlier. Mind you, to phone for a 50p park would probably cost you another 50p for the mobile phone call.

In Faraday Road, which is proposed as pay by phone only, how do you get your free half hour. If you have to phone for it, on a Pay as you go mobile, it will cost you and not therefore be free.

Who will you phone when you want to park. Will it be WBC and if so how will they cope with that staff wise. You will have used up your free half hour before you get through.
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post Jan 22 2013, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 22 2013, 09:00 PM) *
some car parking is only payable by phone.

Aha, I only looked at the main document, cheers.

That's utterly ridiculous. This has nothing to do with helping anybody, otherwise they would make it easy, this is to top up the coffers after WBC have messed everything else up.
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post Jan 22 2013, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Jan 22 2013, 09:17 PM) *
Well considering BT was £12.99 a month line rental...
And like I said, it's more than just milk. It's if you are out and you need to get hold of someone in an emergency. Maybe your mate wants to see if you are around. Emails, ah, have to have internet that you pay for on top of your line rental.. :rollseyes:
There's no way that your life would be "worse" with a mobile phone, only better. You can even buy a cheap regular mobile phone for like £30 and be done with it.

In the 'olden days', when you left work, that's the last you heard about it until the next morning. Mobiles are a poisoned chalice I think.
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