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Jun 4 2009, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jun 3 2009, 08:41 PM) I doubt if the reality brigade would understand it anyway; if it hasn't got sex, abuse or soap mentality then it would probably be beyond them. Thats a bit rude. I watch soaps and some reality programmes, but also enjoy documentrys. So it wouldn't be beyond me as you state.
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Jun 4 2009, 01:44 PM
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I think GMR was being a bit over generalisational there too. I hope my comment previous to that was more accurate.
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Jun 4 2009, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jun 3 2009, 08:41 PM) I doubt if the reality brigade would understand it anyway; if it hasn't got sex, abuse or soap mentality then it would probably be beyond them. Well actually Beowulf has all three in spades! Grendal the abused outcast seeking revenge on those who cast him out. He is particularly violent and nasty dismembering his enemies. Beowulf the hero arrives to dispatch the evil Grendal but is seduced by Grendal's mother and is doomed to repeat the fate of Grendal's father. Depending on the version you watch or read it is quite a violent epic! I have seen a few different film versions and they all had their good and bad points. So you don't have to trawl the bottom with Big Brother or what ever tacky celebrity promotional show is on. Just look up a classic film or read a classic book they are dirt cheap in chairty shops! I wonder how many Big Brother fans actually understand who Big Brother is or have ever read 1984.....
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Jun 4 2009, 03:23 PM
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My must watch TV at present is The Wire, Springwatch, Later With Jools, Question Time, Football & any other major sporting events, Have I Got News For You, Question Of Sport and The Bill.
Along with any one off dramas or documentaries that catch my eye.
Varied enough?
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Jun 4 2009, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE (AmieB @ Jun 4 2009, 10:48 AM) Thats a bit rude. I watch soaps and some reality programmes, but also enjoy documentrys. So it wouldn't be beyond me as you state. I apologise if it was rude; however, soaps are not the most intellectual programmes on TV. By the way; what sort of documentaries do you enjoy watching?
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Jun 4 2009, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (Road User @ Jun 4 2009, 03:53 PM) Well actually Beowulf has all three in spades! Grendal the abused outcast seeking revenge on those who cast him out. He is particularly violent and nasty dismembering his enemies. Beowulf the hero arrives to dispatch the evil Grendal but is seduced by Grendal's mother and is doomed to repeat the fate of Grendal's father. Depending on the version you watch or read it is quite a violent epic! I have seen a few different film versions and they all had their good and bad points. So you don't have to trawl the bottom with Big Brother or what ever tacky celebrity promotional show is on. Just look up a classic film or read a classic book they are dirt cheap in chairty shops! I wonder how many Big Brother fans actually understand who Big Brother is or have ever read 1984..... 1984 is a brilliant book. I've read a few Orwell books and he is a very observant writer. Still relevant today.
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Jun 4 2009, 04:32 PM
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AmieB, if you are joking, which I suspect you are, then fair play to you. If not you really should read 1984 in which you will find out about Big Brother it is scarily prophetic. If I may I'd also recommend Animal Farm. (The classic film not the dodgy 80's porn flick ).
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Jun 4 2009, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (AmieB @ Jun 4 2009, 05:04 PM) I am a massive Big Brother fan so looking forward to trawling to it tonight, tell me more of who Big Brother is and what 1984 is..... BB is a system/ or a dictatorship in the story of control in the 1984 book by George Orwell. The book was first published in 1949. You can read more about it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_(book)
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Jun 5 2009, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jun 4 2009, 07:11 PM) BB is a system/ or a dictatorship in the story of control in the 1984 book by George Orwell. The book was first published in 1949. You can read more about it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_(book)In the novel 1984, Big Brother is what the government evolves into, telling people what they will believe and watching their every move so they can't break the law. If they show any sign of individuality or the ability to think for themselves they are re-educated to align with the rest of the population. China, North Korea, the Khmer Rouge and the former Soviet Union all used similar techniques. (There are many more governments including ours and the USA and too many more to list.) The big brother theme is repeated in many films and novels even things like Dr Who. They use the rat tank from Big Brother in that celebrity jungle thing. But those rats have are not been starved like they were in the novel so they aren’t likely to chew the faces off the celebrities but the idea comes from 1984. Animal farm is another brilliant book along with a Brave New World by Aldus Huxley.
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Jun 5 2009, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jun 4 2009, 04:34 PM) I apologise if it was rude; however, soaps are not the most intellectual programmes on TV.
By the way; what sort of documentaries do you enjoy watching? Yes you were rude and continue to do so on your other posts. I love David Attenborough programmes, I think they are fantastic. Mega Movers, Axe Men, Ice Road Truckers, Bodyshock, some of channel 4 documentaries. But im sure they are not good enough for you...... As for watching soaps, so what? Its fun, sad, entertaining, amusing - i love them. After working my **** off all day in between caring for my son i love to sit and have a laugh and watch something light hearted. I do not dumb down just to relax and find you being very offensive.
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Jun 5 2009, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (AmieB @ Jun 5 2009, 09:02 AM) Yes you were rude and continue to do so on your other posts. I love David Attenborough programmes, I think they are fantastic. Mega Movers, Axe Men, Ice Road Truckers, Bodyshock, some of channel 4 documentaries. But im sure they are not good enough for you...... As for watching soaps, so what? Its fun, sad, entertaining, amusing - i love them. After working my **** off all day in between caring for my son i love to sit and have a laugh and watch something light hearted. I do not dumb down just to relax and find you being very offensive. I don't think I was rude... I just said things as I saw them. If you love soaps then enjoy them. It was nothing personal. I shall be very careful what I say in future.... my intentions weren't to be rude. Again I apologise.
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Jun 5 2009, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (Bill1 @ Jun 4 2009, 05:32 PM) AmieB, if you are joking, which I suspect you are, then fair play to you. If not you really should read 1984 in which you will find out about Big Brother it is scarily prophetic. If I may I'd also recommend Animal Farm. (The classic film not the dodgy 80's porn flick ). I also agree about Animal farm. Also Wigan pier is another good book.
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Jun 5 2009, 12:36 PM
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Anyway isn't Big Brother another form of documentary TV. 16 strangers put into a house to see how they react with each others views, politics, sexuality and personalities.
The original series should go down in history as one of the greatest TV experiments ever, admittedly each series after that started putting freaks, uniques and fame hungry wannabe's into the house but i have to admit.....I love it
The main problem with Big Brother is the media attention it gets and mags like heat that build these people up into 'celebrities' and then forget them after a week or so.
In all honesty I wish they would select a better bunch of housemates to make it more interesting again, but because of the money and instant fame, they will only ever get the wannabe's.
Its harmless fun, and if you like it watch it, if you don't then turn it over. I have known people to slate the program who have never given it a chance and watched it for long enough to see what's good (and bad) about the show.
I bet if BBC 4 showed a documentary about a houseful of strangers in the 1800's and how they got along and the problems they had you would enjoy it.
Those of you slating these types of shows, i am interested to know if you like any of the reality TV shows? (and yes I also wish they would invest some of the money into some decent drama's, films, documentaries etc)
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