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SirWilliam
post Jul 26 2017, 10:55 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40726208

This is a little more serious than a new flavoured chicken dish. Obviously our new found best buddy in the form of the USA views the Uk as a dumping ground for it's over production of food , we , in contrast , seem unable to grasp the importance of feeding our nation .
The original concept of the Common Market was to safeguard European farmers against fluctuating global food production. A couple of major conflicts tend to focus the thinking on such things.
Little doubt what started with good intention escalated into a eurofest of rich land owners getting richer and inefficient peasant farmers surviving in a market place that was anything but a mirror of market forces. Whatever the pros and cons the fact remains that our shop shelves are full , seasonal produce is a thing of the past and it is still very much affordable .
This could we change dramatically if Grove and co don't get their act together. It is doubtful that the EU Countries will not see to continuing shipping their produce over the Channel but if we do place some form of tit for tat levy we may become a food dumping ground in order to placate the great unwashed who are used to cheap available produce.
Long term we need to get home grown production working but it will need planning by those who know about these things as opposed to those who think they do.


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Berkshirelad
post Jul 26 2017, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jul 26 2017, 11:55 AM) *
The original concept of the Common Market was to safeguard European farmers against fluctuating global food production. A couple of major conflicts tend to focus the thinking on such things.


I'm sorry, but that is simply wrong. The EEC evolved as a customs union and common market from the European Coal and Steel Community and Euratom.

CAP was an add on to protect small, inefficient French farmers as a cost of this evolution; it was never the reason in first principles
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post Jul 26 2017, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Jul 26 2017, 03:11 PM) *
I'm sorry, but that is simply wrong. The EEC evolved as a customs union and common market from the European Coal and Steel Community and Euratom.

CAP was an add on to protect small, inefficient French farmers as a cost of this evolution; it was never the reason in first principles



Ok so thank you for the history lesson. We all know the CAP didn't come into effect until 10 years after the signing of the Treaty of Paris which lead to the ECSC and the Treaty of Rome, but my point is that we can't eat coal and if we fudge the question of our food production we may go a little hungry before to long.


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post Jul 26 2017, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jul 26 2017, 07:44 PM) *
Ok so thank you for the history lesson. We all know the CAP didn't come into effect until 10 years after the signing of the Treaty of Paris which lead to the ECSC and the Treaty of Rome, but my point is that we can't eat coal and if we fudge the question of our food production we may go a little hungry before too long.


It was the CAP that led to over-production, wine lakes and butter mountains - which led to a modicum of reform to reduce production to saner levels. If we want to be self sufficeint in food production more protectionist measures like the CAP will be needed - we simply can't compete on production costs (farm to market) with, for instance, Canadia wheat. However, our Brexit inspiration is to develop free trade agreements with countries like Canada - we will never be self sufficient in wheat, one of, if not the, largest single crops in our food supply.
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post Jul 26 2017, 10:53 PM
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Now forgive me for being a snob but I buy free range chicken. The idea of buying a chicken reared in substandard battery farms before being dipped in Chlorine is hardly appealing. It may end up in some dodgy kebab or other fast food restaurant but I wont be eating any of that *****. I think the yanks will find that the Britsh people in general won't touch it with a bargepole.
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post Jul 27 2017, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 26 2017, 11:53 PM) *
Now forgive me for being a snob but I buy free range chicken. The idea of buying a chicken reared in substandard battery farms before being dipped in Chlorine is hardly appealing. It may end up in some dodgy kebab or other fast food restaurant but I wont be eating any of that *****. I think the yanks will find that the Britsh people in general won't touch it with a bargepole.

I've eaten worse.
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post Jul 27 2017, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 27 2017, 06:01 PM) *
I've eaten worse.


High end shops will be able to advertise they use branded chlorine too, not just any old lav cleaner.


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