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post May 24 2010, 05:01 PM
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Regards the report on motorcycle outriders stopping the peasants so an unknown, so called VIP, could pass through unhindered, was it perhaps Price Charles visiting Hamstead Marshall ?

Obviously hasn't taken on board the Cameron approach to ostentation then; at least
he didn't use a helicopter wink.gif
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post May 25 2010, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (gel @ May 24 2010, 06:01 PM) *
Regards the report on motorcycle outriders stopping the peasants so an unknown, so called VIP, could pass through unhindered, was it perhaps Price Charles visiting Hamstead Marshall ?

Obviously hasn't taken on board the Cameron approach to ostentation then; at least
he didn't use a helicopter wink.gif


Umm..... Given the time difference,really don't think it was Charlie!


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post May 25 2010, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE (gel @ May 24 2010, 06:01 PM) *
Regards the report on motorcycle outriders stopping the peasants so an unknown, so called VIP, could pass through unhindered, was it perhaps Price Charles visiting Hamstead Marshall ?

Obviously hasn't taken on board the Cameron approach to ostentation then; at least
he didn't use a helicopter wink.gif



I seem to remember a report some while ago that during the Olympics roads etc. are going to be cordoned off and motorway lanes closed in order that Olympic VIP's can be taken quickly to various events etc.

Does anyone know if this is still planned and will the British people stand for it?

If true, I personally think this is outrageous with our already congested roads.
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post May 25 2010, 08:00 PM
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post May 26 2010, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 25 2010, 12:15 PM) *
I seem to remember a report some while ago that during the Olympics roads etc. are going to be cordoned off and motorway lanes closed in order that Olympic VIP's can be taken quickly to various events etc.

Does anyone know if this is still planned and will the British people stand for it?

If true, I personally think this is outrageous with our already congested roads.

Anything we can do to make the Olympics great is such as small sacrifice.
I suggest, should you find this a pain, you set off 5 mins earlier.
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post May 26 2010, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 26 2010, 02:10 AM) *
Anything we can do to make the Olympics great is such as small sacrifice.
I suggest, should you find this a pain, you set off 5 mins earlier.



It's not the fact that I may be held up - in fact that probably won't affect me.

It's this "holy-er than thou" approach these these people have over the rest of us.

We all hevreasons to get somewhere that are important to ourselves as individuals,

This has not been done before and I do not see why the rest of us should be regarded as being less important that some jumped up sports officials.

People regularly get angry on this and other forums about traffic congestion.
Does your " et off 5 mins earlier" solution apply to all these cases?
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post May 26 2010, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 26 2010, 10:17 AM) *
It's not the fact that I may be held up - in fact that probably won't affect me.

It's this "holy-er than thou" approach these these people have over the rest of us.

We all hevreasons to get somewhere that are important to ourselves as individuals,

This has not been done before and I do not see why the rest of us should be regarded as being less important that some jumped up sports officials.

People regularly get angry on this and other forums about traffic congestion.
Does your " et off 5 mins earlier" solution apply to all these cases?


Congestion is a totally different matter.

A Police Escort stopping traffic for a minute or less to let a convoy of VIPs drive through a road junction is a totally different senario.
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post May 26 2010, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 26 2010, 10:17 AM) *
It's this "holy-er than thou" approach these these people have over the rest of us.
I'm pretty sure that's not any Olympic event.

Faster than thou perhaps, able throw an object further than thou maybe, but not holier than thou. wink.gif
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post May 26 2010, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ May 26 2010, 07:59 PM) *
I'm pretty sure that's not any Olympic event.

Faster than thou perhaps, able throw an object further than thou maybe, but not holier than thou. wink.gif


This Olympic VIP lane idea will cause queues much longer than 5 minutes. It was planned to
apply to certain sections of motorway, and trunk roads too.
This could affect us because of traffic passing through to Olympic events in Dorset. ohmy.gif

Hopefully new Government will not pursue this idea reminiscent of the USSR, where Polit Bureau officials had same priority.

You'll recall Commissar Prescott the Great Deputy Leader implemented closing off outside lane at M4 near Chiswick end, supposedly for taxis/buses, but then used by MPs, allegedly for security reasons angry.gif

The fact we've heard nothing of late doesn't mean Labour didn't sign up to secret deals agreeing this.
If the amazing scenario arrives where one lane of M4 is excluded to Joe Public, and there's then a shunt,
we are down to 1 lane.
5 minute delay..I think not.
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post May 26 2010, 09:27 PM
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If the amazing scenario arrives where one lane of M4 is excluded to Joe Public, and there's then a shunt,
we are down to 1 lane.


Most motorways are one lane these days due to the idiots driving in lane 2 at 65mph.
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post May 26 2010, 09:31 PM
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This Olympic VIP lane idea will cause queues much longer than 5 minutes. It was planned to
apply to certain sections of motorway


yeah, right. So you really believe that an entire lane of the A34 [ that is to say part of the E05 ( Greenock to Algiceras ) European trunk route, the westernmost North-South such route ] will be closed to the duration of the Olympics?
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post May 26 2010, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 26 2010, 10:27 PM) *
If the amazing scenario arrives where one lane of M4 is excluded to Joe Public, and there's then a shunt,
we are down to 1 lane.


Most motorways are one lane these days due to the idiots driving in lane 2 at 65mph.

And not forgetting twice as many in lane three because there's no point pulling in if you're only going to pull out again.
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post May 27 2010, 12:21 AM
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Exactly, near-side lane has 50 mile an hour crawlers, middle lane slow overtakers, out-side lane full of people trying to keep to 80 or more.
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post May 27 2010, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ May 27 2010, 01:21 AM) *
Exactly, near-side lane has 50 mile an hour crawlers, middle lane slow overtakers, out-side lane full of people trying to keep to 80 or more.


I have to correct you there on a small point.

"Middle lane - slow drivers who stay there whether overtaking or not!" dry.gif


They're all members of CLODS (Centre Lane Owners and Drivers Society) whose vision and ultimate goal is to be able to enter and leave the motorway without using the inside lane, which technically is out of bounds to all members.
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post May 27 2010, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 27 2010, 11:44 AM) *
I have to correct you there on a small point.

"Middle lane - slow drivers who stay there whether overtaking or not!" dry.gif


They're all members of CLODS (Centre Lane Owners and Drivers Society) whose vision and ultimate goal is to be able to enter and leave the motorway without using the inside lane, which technically is out of bounds to all members.


laugh.gif Just out of interest which lane do Strafin, Iommi and Biker travel in? Me I am a DIC (Do It Correctly).
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post May 27 2010, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ May 27 2010, 12:07 PM) *
laugh.gif Just out of interest which lane do Strafin, Iommi and Biker travel in? Me I am a DIC (Do It Correctly).



No one will EVER admit to being a member of CLODS.

Personally I am KETTLEWO (KEep To The Left Except When Overtaking)

(It's in the Highway Code! ) tongue.gif
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post May 27 2010, 12:20 PM
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I use the nearest side lane, accept when over taking, or when passing an on on-ramp, so with motorways as busy as they are these days, is all the time. When on a motorway, I'll attempt to travel at between an indicated 75/80, so if I am in the your way, you are speeding. Having said all this, I rarely use the motorway.
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post May 27 2010, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ May 27 2010, 01:20 PM) *
I use the nearest side lane, accept when over taking, or when passing an on on-ramp, so with motorways as busy as they are these days, is all the time. When on a motorway, I'll attempt to travel at between an indicated 75/80, so if I am in the your way, you are speeding. Having said all this, I rarely use the motorway.

Wrongly then. My Dad sits in the middle all the time "because there's a junction coming up", so what?? And what gives you right to speed over everybody else? And even if you were within the limits, blocking ither drivers progress is still bad driving and as antisocial as speeding itself so there is no high ground there.
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post May 27 2010, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ May 27 2010, 03:16 PM) *
Wrongly then. My Dad sits in the middle all the time "because there's a junction coming up"

Because that is what I was taught, you pull over for on-ramps to allow safe merging of traffic from the left...common courtesy I understand. tongue.gif

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 27 2010, 03:16 PM) *
so what?? And what gives you right to speed over everybody else? And even if you were within the limits, blocking ither drivers progress is still bad driving and as antisocial as speeding itself so there is no high ground there.

I know, but an indicated 80 in my car is around a true 72 MPH, so if I am in your way, you are breaking the law, bearing in mind that I said I use the left most lane unless my way is impeded, or there is an on-ramp, so blow that out your tail-pipe, yah motoring snob! wink.gif
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post May 27 2010, 03:22 PM
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My point being that the limit is 70. You are saying that you do it but shouldn't let anyone else?? The common courtesy moving over for a junction idea is; in my eyes, akin to leaving your shopping trolley in the space so that someone else can use it. Do you move over for every junction just in case someone is coming down, and how far before it do you start hogging the middle lane? And you know that you're just supposed to merge right?
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