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Posted by: gel Feb 20 2017, 04:50 PM

Beeb looking for input / questions on our section of the beloved A34-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-38910820

Posted by: Turin Machine Feb 20 2017, 06:09 PM

And people will say? Speed cameras!

Posted by: dannyboy Feb 20 2017, 07:40 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 20 2017, 06:09 PM) *
And people will say? Speed cameras!



So what if they do - if that is what the people want, then that is what they should get.

Posted by: Andy Capp Feb 20 2017, 08:11 PM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 20 2017, 07:40 PM) *
So what if they do - if that is what the people want, then that is what they should get.

A la Brexit.

Posted by: Turin Machine Feb 20 2017, 09:35 PM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 20 2017, 07:40 PM) *
So what if they do - if that is what the people want, then that is what they should get.

What they should get is what works,you wouldn't ask your mates down the pub to operate on you, or would you?

Posted by: On the edge Feb 21 2017, 06:54 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 20 2017, 09:35 PM) *
What they should get is what works,you wouldn't ask your mates down the pub to operate on you, or would you?


The one who is a recently retired surgeon, yes, why not?

Posted by: Andy Capp Feb 21 2017, 09:08 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 20 2017, 09:35 PM) *
What they should get is what works,you wouldn't ask your mates down the pub to operate on you, or would you?

Agreed, but using that philosophy, we might not have had the In/Out referendum.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Feb 21 2017, 01:00 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 21 2017, 09:08 AM) *
Agreed, but using that philosophy, we might not have had the In/Out referendum.

Except that was the right thing to do all along! Do keep up boy, just remember, WWJD. Now, where were we?.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Feb 21 2017, 01:05 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 21 2017, 06:54 AM) *
The one who is a recently retired surgeon, yes, why not?

No! The one who's got another mate who like, you know when your car was making that flubbertyflubberty noise? Him, the one who reckoned it was your tappets. Except it wasn't. That one.

Posted by: Turin Machine Feb 21 2017, 01:28 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 21 2017, 01:05 PM) *
No! The one who's got another mate who like, you know when your car was making that flubbertyflubberty noise? Him, the one who reckoned it was your tappets. Except it wasn't. That one.

Oh! That one! I used him to Tarmac my drive! Didn't go well. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine Feb 21 2017, 01:30 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 20 2017, 08:11 PM) *
A la Brexit.

Parlez-vous Français ? smile.gif

Posted by: dannyboy Feb 21 2017, 02:05 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 20 2017, 09:35 PM) *
What they should get is what works,you wouldn't ask your mates down the pub to operate on you, or would you?



you wouldn't ask your mates down the pub to operate on you, or would you?


Exactly what happened last year...

Posted by: gel Feb 21 2017, 03:36 PM

Another nasty HGV crash yesterday near Weston on The Green:
'Lucky' outcome this time.
Bulgarian HGV driver charged with careless driving.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15104173.PICTURES__Boy__10__and_mother__lucky_to_be_alive__after_A34_crash/#

Posted by: gel Feb 21 2017, 03:36 PM

Another nasty HGV crash yesterday near Weston on The Green:
Lucky outcome this time.

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15104173.PICTURES__Boy__10__and_mother__lucky_to_be_alive__after_A34_crash/#

Posted by: Claude Feb 21 2017, 03:41 PM

QUOTE (gel @ Feb 21 2017, 04:36 PM) *
Another nasty HGV crash yesterday near Weston on The Green:
Lucky outcome this time.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15104173.PICTURES__Boy__10__and_mother__lucky_to_be_alive__after_A34_crash/#

The 10 year old boy and his mother will be thrilled at how "lucky" they were to be hospitalised with potentially serious injuries.

And for clarity, the BBC appear to be offering people the opportunity to ask stakeholders a question in 140 characters or less, rather than asking for people's input.

Posted by: On the edge Feb 21 2017, 03:58 PM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 21 2017, 02:05 PM) *


you wouldn't ask your mates down the pub to operate on you, or would you?


Exactly what happened last year...



I'm not sure that this latest fad actually works. Just because the majority are thick, it doesn't make you intelligent.

Posted by: dannyboy Feb 22 2017, 12:08 AM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 21 2017, 03:58 PM) *
I'm not sure that this latest fad actually works. Just because the majority are thick, it doesn't make you intelligent.



In the kingdom of the blind...

Posted by: On the edge Feb 22 2017, 07:39 AM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2017, 12:08 AM) *
In the kingdom of the blind...


Exactly, sight is no measure of intelligence any more than Leadership itself.

Posted by: Biker1 Oct 26 2017, 07:49 AM

Once again useless attempts to make the "dangerous" A34 safer. http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/22671/safety-measures-put-forward-to-improve-dangerous-a34.html
How many more times?
It is not the road that is dangerous, it is many of the drivers that use it.
These steps will unfortunately do nothing to decrease the number of crashes on the road.
Not while you have people using mobiles, tailgaters, lack of concentration, often due to tiredness, etc.
The article admits that the two crashes regularly highlighted were both caused by drivers on their mobile phones.
It is an very busy road with an exceptionally large number of HGV's and will therefore, unless completely upgraded to a 3 /4? lane motorway (or the freight is back on a long closed railway line duplicating the route) crashes will unfortunately continue and the current rate.
This would, of course, have to be linked in with a scheme to stop people driving like prats. Unlikely eh?? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: SirWilliam Oct 26 2017, 08:49 AM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 26 2017, 08:49 AM) *
Once again useless attempts to make the "dangerous" A34 safer. http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/22671/safety-measures-put-forward-to-improve-dangerous-a34.html
How many more times?
It is not the road that is dangerous, it is many of the drivers that use it.
These steps will unfortunately do nothing to decrease the number of crashes on the road.
Not while you have people using mobiles, tailgaters, lack of concentration, often due to tiredness, etc.
The article admits that the two crashes regularly highlighted were both caused by drivers on their mobile phones.
It is an very busy road with an exceptionally large number of HGV's and will therefore, unless completely upgraded to a 3 /4? lane motorway (or the freight is back on a long closed railway line duplicating the route) crashes will unfortunately continue and the current rate.
This would, of course, have to be linked in with a scheme to stop people driving like prats. Unlikely eh?? rolleyes.gif


Everything you say is correct , but it doesn't allow highly paid consultants to forward plans on how to "invest" millions of tax payers money on " improvements " .
No road is dangerous , after all it is a stretch of tarmac going from A to B , it is the prats who are allowed to propel a couple of tons of metal at speed with no thought of the consequences. angry.gif

Posted by: je suis Charlie Oct 26 2017, 10:44 AM

My phone can detect when it's being carried so it doesn't switch off, how in god's name can you not design in a feature that detects when a phone is in a vehicle?

Posted by: SirWilliam Oct 26 2017, 11:04 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 26 2017, 11:44 AM) *
My phone can detect when it's being carried so it doesn't switch off, how in god's name can you not design in a feature that detects when a phone is in a vehicle?


Because it would infringe on those who believe they are exempt from such legislation , after all they may be making an important business call as opposed to some feckless yoof who is texting his mate .
Would be interesting to know the percentage of drivers who get caught ? Going on personal observation I would say it's pretty low .

Posted by: je suis Charlie Oct 26 2017, 11:15 AM

Of course it's low! Same as prosecution of people with faulty lights and antisocial behaviour behind the wheel is low. Because you never see police patroling now, all too busy getting nails painted, riding dodgem cars and jumping in cars Sweeny style to investigate carnival floats.

Posted by: SirWilliam Oct 26 2017, 11:45 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 26 2017, 12:15 PM) *
Of course it's low! Same as prosecution of people with faulty lights and antisocial behaviour behind the wheel is low. Because you never see police patroling now, all too busy getting nails painted, riding dodgem cars and jumping in cars Sweeny style to investigate carnival floats.


I believe it is known as prioritising . wink.gif

Posted by: Andy Capp Oct 26 2017, 11:54 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 26 2017, 11:44 AM) *
My phone can detect when it's being carried so it doesn't switch off, how in god's name can you not design in a feature that detects when a phone is in a vehicle?

Because there is nothing wrong with using a phone in a vehicle.

Posted by: SirWilliam Oct 26 2017, 12:23 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 26 2017, 12:54 PM) *
Because there us nothing wrong in using a phone in a vehicle.


I will take issue with that statement . Anything that detracts the attention of the driver needs addressing . I don't even like my wife talking while I am at the wheel , ( or at any other time for that matter ) , so someone prattling into a plastic fag packet should be discouraged .

Posted by: je suis Charlie Oct 26 2017, 12:46 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 26 2017, 12:54 PM) *
Because there us nothing wrong in using a phone in a vehicle.

Spoken like a true trollish buffoon.

Posted by: Andy Capp Oct 26 2017, 02:41 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Oct 26 2017, 01:23 PM) *
I will take issue with that statement . Anything that detracts the attention of the driver needs addressing . I don't even like my wife talking while I am at the wheel , ( or at any other time for that matter ) , so someone prattling into a plastic fag packet should be discouraged .

That might be the case, but, if one easily distracted, then one could also question the wisdom in providing that person a licence to drive. We might also consider whether we should have radios and taxi drivers being able to take calls while on the move.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Oct 26 2017, 02:43 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 26 2017, 03:41 PM) *
That might be the case, but, if one easily distracted, then one could also question the wisdom in providing that person a licence to drive. We might also consider whether we should have radios and taxi drivers being able to take calls while on the move.

It's the law. But then as I recall you're not too hot on the law and driving are you.

Posted by: Andy Capp Oct 26 2017, 02:44 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 26 2017, 01:46 PM) *
Spoken like a true trollish buffoon.

You are completely correct; however, I was replying to a post that in my view was short sighted.

Posted by: Andy Capp Oct 26 2017, 02:47 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 26 2017, 03:43 PM) *
It's the law. But then as I recall you're not too hot on the law and driving are you.

I know there is a law that covers using or manipulating a device while driving, but there is nothing wrong with passengers using a phone; even the driver can if hands free and is not distracted.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Oct 26 2017, 03:01 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 26 2017, 03:47 PM) *
I know there is a law that covers using or manipulating a device while driving, but there is nothing wrong with passengers using a phone; even the driver can if hands free and is not distracted.

Indeed. However, in the real world we have drivers quite merrily driving around with device in hand, surfing their Spotify account, looking at their profiles, using them as handheld nav device's, answering text messages and all manner of distractions. If, it can't be stopped by education it must be stopped using technology. If some people are inconvenienced it's a lot less convenient having your family wiped out.

Posted by: Andy Capp Oct 26 2017, 03:04 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 26 2017, 04:01 PM) *
Indeed. However, in the real world we have drivers quite merrily driving around with device in hand, surfing their Spotify account, looking at their profiles, using them as handheld nav device's, answering text messages and all manner of distractions. If, it can't be stopped by education it must be stopped using technology. If some people are inconvenienced it's a lot less convenient having your family wiped out.

The problem will soon be solved by technology: ‘driverless’ cars.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Oct 26 2017, 03:13 PM

DP

Posted by: je suis Charlie Oct 26 2017, 03:19 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 26 2017, 04:04 PM) *
The problem will soon be solved by technology: ‘driverless’ cars.

Wrong, in fact new guidelines have been issued by the government that places the onus on autonomous vehicle drivers to ensure that the responsibility for all safety aspects are theirs. Fully autonomous vehicles on British roads, all British roads are a very long way off. And a lot of the people doing this will not be driving even partially autonomous vehicles any time soon.

Posted by: Andy Capp Oct 26 2017, 03:24 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 26 2017, 04:19 PM) *
Wrong, in fact new guidelines have been issued by the government that places the onus on autonomous vehicle drivers to ensure that the responsibility for all safety aspects are theirs. Fully autonomous vehicles on British roads, all British roads are a very long way off. And a lot of the people doing this will not be driving even partially autonomous vehicles any time soon.

We’ll see; if this discussion survives in an archive somewhere to be reflected upon; meanwhile, voice recognition and hands free kits are now widely available.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Oct 26 2017, 03:28 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 26 2017, 04:24 PM) *
We’ll see; if this discussion survives in an archive somewhere to be reflected upon; meanwhile, voice recognition and hands free kits are now widely available.

But people aren't using them, that's part of the problem. There must be an easy, cheap retro software fix for this. How many more people need to die before it's taken seriously?

Posted by: Andy Capp Oct 26 2017, 03:37 PM

Interestingly, I have read that talking to a passenger is nearly as dangerous as using a phone!

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Oct 26 2017, 03:52 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 26 2017, 04:37 PM) *
Interestingly, I have read that talking to a passenger is nearly as dangerous as using a phone!


Pedestrains with mobiles are just as bad. I saw a guy wearing headphones walkng and texting walk straight out into a main road the other day. A truck missed him by inches...crazy.

Posted by: Andy Capp Oct 26 2017, 04:52 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 26 2017, 04:52 PM) *
Pedestrains with mobiles are just as bad. I saw a guy wearing headphones walkng and texting walk straight out into a main road the other day. A truck missed him by inches...crazy.

Yes phone zombies are a pet ‘hate’ annoyance of mine!

Posted by: Biker1 Oct 26 2017, 05:56 PM

The emphasis is consistently of catching those who speed because its easy and a good cash cow.
Other driving misdemeanours, which cause far more accidents, injuries and deaths seem to be ignored.
After all, it has been stated on here several times that, apparently, speed does not cause crashes!

Posted by: SirWilliam Oct 26 2017, 06:02 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 26 2017, 05:52 PM) *
Yes phone zombies are a pet ‘hate’ annoyance of mine!


At last a common bete noire . I have the unenviable task of pushing a wheelchair containing my wife and the number of people who walk straight into us whilst distracted by their wretched phone is frightening . Not so bad on the straight but when crossing at the lights or going over a bridge it ain't funny .

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Oct 26 2017, 06:17 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Oct 26 2017, 07:02 PM) *
At last a common bete noire . I have the unenviable task of pushing a wheelchair containing my wife and the number of people who walk straight into us whilst distracted by their wretched phone is frightening . Not so bad on the straight but when crossing at the lights or going over a bridge it ain't funny .


Something we can all agree on. Bl00dy nightmare.

Posted by: gel Oct 28 2017, 06:49 AM

And yet another multi vehicle smash at E Ilsley on Friday; not reported in NWN.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15625188.Drivers_heading_into_Oxfordshire_warned_of_hour_long_delays_on_A34_after_major_crash/

Posted by: SirWilliam Oct 28 2017, 08:22 AM

QUOTE (gel @ Oct 28 2017, 07:49 AM) *
And yet another multi vehicle smash at E Ilsley on Friday; not reported in NWN.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15625188.Drivers_heading_into_Oxfordshire_warned_of_hour_long_delays_on_A34_after_major_crash/


It used to be standard fare to hear of a crash at least once a week on the local news . I was only thinking the other day that no news was good news as they say but obviously they choose not to report every accident incase they are accused of repetition .
One would think by now every driver has heard of Gore Hill and would take extra care ? Obviously not . angry.gif

Posted by: blackdog Oct 28 2017, 09:41 AM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 26 2017, 08:49 AM) *
Once again useless attempts to make the "dangerous" A34 safer. http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/22671/safety-measures-put-forward-to-improve-dangerous-a34.html
How many more times?
It is not the road that is dangerous, it is many of the drivers that use it.
These steps will unfortunately do nothing to decrease the number of crashes on the road.
Not while you have people using mobiles, tailgaters, lack of concentration, often due to tiredness, etc.
The article admits that the two crashes regularly highlighted were both caused by drivers on their mobile phones.
It is an very busy road with an exceptionally large number of HGV's and will therefore, unless completely upgraded to a 3 /4? lane motorway (or the freight is back on a long closed railway line duplicating the route) crashes will unfortunately continue and the current rate.
This would, of course, have to be linked in with a scheme to stop people driving like prats. Unlikely eh?? rolleyes.gif


The proposal to lengthen slip roads is a huge advance - certainly won't stop all accidents, but it will improve the road.

Of course it's all just a temporary fix until we get self driving cars and do away with driver error.

Posted by: SirWilliam Oct 28 2017, 12:04 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 28 2017, 10:41 AM) *
The proposal to lengthen slip roads is a huge advance - certainly won't stop all accidents, but it will improve the road.

Of course it's all just a temporary fix until we get self driving cars and do away with driver error.


Small question re self driving cars . If the car is capable of taking itself to the destination , why would one bother to accompany it ?
I envisage ordering my groceries on line , sending Fred ,( have to call him something ), to collect which just leaves me the job of putting it in the cupboard . Brilliant !!!
We all know it's just a mad scientist's pipe dream but it does pose the question , what next ?

Posted by: blackdog Oct 28 2017, 07:44 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Oct 28 2017, 01:04 PM) *
Small question re self driving cars . If the car is capable of taking itself to the destination , why would one bother to accompany it ?
I envisage ordering my groceries on line , sending Fred ,( have to call him something ), to collect which just leaves me the job of putting it in the cupboard . Brilliant !!!
We all know it's just a mad scientist's pipe dream but it does pose the question , what next ?


No need to wait for self-driving cars, just order online and your groceries will soon be at your door.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Oct 28 2017, 07:58 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 28 2017, 08:44 PM) *
No need to wait for self-driving cars, just order online and your groceries will soon be at your door.


And within 5 years you wont be getting a van delivering. This is definetly a drone job. Savings will be massive. You book.. ERP processes and an API interfaces into Robots who pick your order and drones deliver. Gonna happen...and soon. I've seen the plans. 10 percent discount on delivery this way against a human interface.

Posted by: newres Oct 28 2017, 08:44 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 28 2017, 08:58 PM) *
And within 5 years you wont be getting a van delivering. This is definetly a drone job. Savings will be massive. You book.. ERP processes and an API interfaces into Robots who pick your order and drones deliver. Gonna happen...and soon. I've seen the plans. 10 percent discount on delivery this way against a human interface.

Well drones can write code, so delivering isn't that much harder.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Oct 28 2017, 08:52 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Oct 28 2017, 09:44 PM) *
Well drones can write code, so delivering isn't that much harder.

Indeed. The only problem is they will only deliver to certain areas. Cant see Waitrose happy to see a 10k drone delivering in the Nightingales...And this will no doubt lead to cries of elitism when in fact it will be economics and insurance.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Oct 28 2017, 09:34 PM

I can just visualise that,
"yeah, 'ello is that Waitrose?"
"Yes sir, what would you like?"
"Right mate, I wants twelve cans of special, anna half ounce a weed"
"And the address?"
"Nightingales innit"

Click, brrrrr.

Posted by: newres Oct 29 2017, 05:47 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 28 2017, 09:52 PM) *
Indeed. The only problem is they will only deliver to certain areas. Cant see Waitrose happy to see a 10k drone delivering in the Nightingales...And this will no doubt lead to cries of elitism when in fact it will be economics and insurance.

Waitrose were happy to give them free coffee! If it’s a delivery service at least it won’t upset the customers by having them in the store sipping free coffee. biggrin.gif

Back to the A34 though. We used to live in West Ilsley and it was a fairly regular occurrence to have traffic backed up along Main Road to avoid the accidents on the road.

I was once stopped for speeding at 104 mph along the Ilsleys stretch. I kept my licence too.

The only view that I have is that some of the slip roads are potentially lethal. The entry southbound at East Ilsley is particularly bad.

Posted by: Biker1 Oct 29 2017, 08:53 AM

Interesting the views on slip roads.
i wonder how many of the numerous crashes on the A34 are caused by inadequate slip roads?
Perhaps we will never know as the statistic does not exist.
However I doubt the number is very high?
Why seem so many t East Ilsley?
Is is just disproportionate reporting?
Maybe a crawler lane here on both sides of the hill may help?

Posted by: SirWilliam Oct 29 2017, 09:40 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 28 2017, 09:34 PM) *
I can just visualise that,
"yeah, 'ello is that Waitrose?"
"Yes sir, what would you like?"
"Right mate, I wants twelve cans of special, anna half ounce a weed"
"And the address?"
"Nightingales innit"

Click, brrrrr.


Somewhat snobbish attitude old chap . I'm sure a discerning palate exists even in the Greenham road area . "Case of Chateau Margaux 1787 my good man ". wink.gif
Back to the drone situation . Apart from the obvious dangers of items being transported at altitude , mid- air collisions will be continuous , making the blitz look like a back garden firework display.
No , the answer is walking . For the uninitiated it is what those two long things at the other end of your body are for .

Posted by: Turin Machine Oct 29 2017, 11:22 AM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 29 2017, 09:53 AM) *
Interesting the views on slip roads.
i wonder how many of the numerous crashes on the A34 are caused by inadequate slip roads?
Perhaps we will never know as the statistic does not exist.
However I doubt the number is very high?
Why seem so many t East Ilsley?
Is is just disproportionate reporting?
Maybe a crawler lane here on both sides of the hill may help?

Crawler lanes, longer slips would all help tremendously. Stricter enforcement of existing regulations would also be of benefit here. I regularly use this road and the sheer amount of people still using mobiles is shocking, and they continue to flout the law in the sure and certain knowledge that they won't get caught.

Posted by: SirWilliam Oct 29 2017, 12:56 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Oct 29 2017, 12:22 PM) *
Crawler lanes, longer slips would all help tremendously. Stricter enforcement of existing regulations would also be of benefit here. I regularly use this road and the sheer amount of people still using mobiles is shocking, and they continue to flout the law in the sure and certain knowledge that they won't get caught.


In this technology driven world one would think that it wouldn't be to complicated to place cameras along the side of the road which would instantly identify those who flout the law resulting in a ticket arriving through the post .
If drivers new they were going to get caught they wouldn't break the law , it's because they know the odds are in their favour that they put themselves and others at risk .

Posted by: blackdog Oct 29 2017, 04:53 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 28 2017, 07:58 PM) *
And within 5 years you wont be getting a van delivering. This is definetly a drone job. Savings will be massive. You book.. ERP processes and an API interfaces into Robots who pick your order and drones deliver. Gonna happen...and soon. I've seen the plans. 10 percent discount on delivery this way against a human interface.

Delivery drones may be fit a niche, but it's absurd to think that they can deliver as efficently as a man with a supermarket van. I can imagine a self driving van without a man, but not thousands of drones buzzing around Newbury satisfying the day to day shopping needs of the populace.

Posted by: Andy Capp Oct 29 2017, 04:59 PM

Amusing for target practice.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Oct 29 2017, 05:28 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 29 2017, 04:53 PM) *
Delivery drones may be fit a niche, but it's absurd to think that they can deliver as efficently as a man with a supermarket van. I can imagine a self driving van without a man, but not thousands of drones buzzing around Newbury satisfying the day to day shopping needs of the populace.


What sounds absurd today is commonplace tomorrow. If man can imagine it and it has economic benefit to corporations it will happen

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