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post Aug 1 2011, 06:39 PM
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Odd the post I started re young Mum abandoning her parental responsibilities/ appearing in local court, has been canned.
Not getting jailed seems to be the norm in Newbury for such events;
http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/Article...articleID=12631

Here's another similar example in Cumbria; whether it's worse or less than the removed thread, you decide dry.gif ; at least in a car they were spotted/ potentially saved.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/carlisle...ferrerPath=news

The Daily Star were far from impressed either with Newbury party;
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/2039...y-4-home-alone/
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post Aug 4 2011, 12:10 PM
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And they paid the ultimate price and a lesson that some find hard to learn judging by the original story.
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post Aug 4 2011, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 4 2011, 01:10 PM) *
And they paid the ultimate price and a lesson that some find hard to learn judging by the original story.


It really irks me when people say they are paying the ultimate price...No they are not, their daughter is - dead or alive.

Agree, people do not learn from the Mcanns stupidity...'Some' parents couldn't care less.
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post Aug 4 2011, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Aug 4 2011, 03:21 PM) *
It really irks me when people say they are paying the ultimate price...No they are not, their daughter is - dead or alive.

It irks me when people are pedantic. As parents, they paid the ultimate price.
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post Aug 5 2011, 06:05 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 4 2011, 04:39 PM) *
It irks me when people are pedantic. As parents, they paid the ultimate price.


Pedantic you say, the parents have paid the ultimate price. No! The child has paid the ultimate price for the parents actions.
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post Aug 5 2011, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Aug 5 2011, 07:05 AM) *
Pedantic you say, the parents have paid the ultimate price. No! The child has paid the ultimate price for the parents actions.

Your point has been made already. As a parent, I cannot think of anything worse for my being partly responsible for losing my child, it would be worse than my death. I was talking from the point of view of the parent. The fate of the child, which is currently speculative, goes without saying.

Can you think of anything worse for a parent than being partly responsible for losing your child?
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post Aug 5 2011, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 5 2011, 08:48 AM) *
Your point has been made already. As a parent, I cannot think of anything worse for my being partly responsible for losing my child, it would be worse than my death. I was talking from the point of view of the parent. The fate of the child, which is currently speculative, goes without saying.

Can you think of anything worse for a parent than being partly responsible for losing your child?


Partly responsible - where on earth do you get partly from? This was no accident, they were left alone on purpose so mummy and daddy could eat and get merry.
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post Aug 5 2011, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Aug 5 2011, 12:33 PM) *
Partly responsible - where on earth do you get partly from? This was no accident, they were left alone on purpose so mummy and daddy could eat and get merry.

It is all supposition, but I am assuming they didn't deliberately get rid of their daughter. As the fate of Madeleine McCann is officially unknown to the authorities, I'll presume she was abducted by a third party. I take this to mean that the McCann's were not totally responsible for her disappearance. The point is, even if the parents were at home, it would not have meant their daughter was perfectly safe from abduction. In other words, leaving their children alone was not the only reason the abduction occurred.

At the end of the day, Madeleine McCann's disappearance was a horrible thing to happen, we can all agree on that.
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post Aug 5 2011, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 5 2011, 12:45 PM) *
It is all supposition, but I am assuming they didn't deliberately get rid of their daughter. As the fate of Madeleine McCann is officially unknown to the authorities, I'll presume she was abducted by a third party. I take this to mean that the McCann's were not totally responsible for her disappearance. The point is, even if the parents were at home, it would not have meant their daughter was perfectly safe from abduction. In other words, leaving their children alone was not the only reason the abduction occurred.

At the end of the day, Madeleine McCann's disappearance was a horrible thing to happen, we can all agree on that.


Yes, I can agree on that..Actually debating over this, that and the other wont bring her back. I just find it terrible and it makes me so upset when I think of this, so i'm probably better off not discussing it anymore anyway.

(I think the situation with the Newbury women is slightly worse than the Mcanns for the time scale of neglect...All though I suspect Maddie is continuing to endure on going abuse - if she is alive sad.gif )
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