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Phil_D11102
post Sep 11 2017, 10:16 AM
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25 years ago, LTCol Neveux handed over the "keys" to the base back to the RAF Commander. This ended some 50 years of an American "presence" dating back to the build of the D-Day.

Over the past week the Greenham Trust have been celebrating their 20th anniversary with a series of events in Newbury and on the base.

While the events have been slanted towards those outside the fence, the publicity today still hovers around them. We know that the history of the base occurred inside the fence.

During the week I have heard some very stupid comments from those outside the gates, that while they were non-violence, they weren't non action. The reason why they first started cutting the fences is to let the deer trapped inside the base out.
They also said they were being imaginative when "marking" the vehicles being deployed that were supposedly able to slip into the country side unnoticed. When stated that these actions put lives at danger, there was no answer. When asked about was driving cars into convoys again putting lives at risk, again, no answer.

At another event there was a comment made about it being not true that women sitting down in front of moving vehicles holding babies and children. Again there was not comment even though a photo was put up on the screen showing a mother sat down holding a baby in front of a car.

I think the biggest joke of the week was a speaker who apparently works with the UN nuclear proliferation treaties calling the USAF soldiers, squaddies, and calling the hardened shelters silos. It goes to show that their experts don't know their ***** from a hole in the ground. FYI, I did ask this expert did they know the difference between a missile silo and a shelter, and she said it didn't matter, as it was only a technical term. Nice to know that people don't know the technical terms for the fields they work in.

Lastly, I was to be interviewed on the radio this morning on BBC Radio Berkshire. This has been cancelled due to a water issue in Reading. Again, push to the side.

Anyway, it's been 25 years since we left RAF Greenham Common, and since then the threat to the world has not diminished, as seen as the events since the 11th of Sept 2001.
I missed being stationed at the base, as it was one of my best assignments. I do have the pleasure to still be living in the Newbury area, as it is a great place to live and raise a family.
To my brothers and sisters who have served at RAF Greenham Common over the past 75 years, God Bless you all. We done a great job, and be proud of what we accomplished.
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post Sep 11 2017, 10:26 AM
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Thank you. Both for the post and for your service. On an amusing note, I once observed a very smart lady one Friday afternoon park her car some distance from the gates and after some contortion get changed in her car to emerge in regulation dungarees and smock, quickly look round to check she hadn't been watched then hurry of to join the 'sisters' for a happy weekend of sisterhood and protest.
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post Sep 11 2017, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 11 2017, 11:26 AM) *
Thank you. Both for the post and for your service. On an amusing note, I once observed a very smart lady one Friday afternoon park her car some distance from the gates and after some contortion get changed in her car to emerge in regulation dungarees and smock, quickly look round to check she hadn't been watched then hurry of to join the 'sisters' for a happy weekend of sisterhood and protest.


I wonder if it was one of the actors taking part in the show held on the common this weekend.

Did anyone go an see the show. I know one person who went. They reported back that it made them cringe and they left before it finished.


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post Sep 11 2017, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Sep 11 2017, 11:53 AM) *
I wonder if it was one of the actors taking part in the show held on the common this weekend.

Did anyone go an see the show. I know one person who went. They reported back that it made them cringe and they left before it finished.

This was years ago, the time of linking hands round the perimeter. 30 years?
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post Sep 11 2017, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 11 2017, 12:42 PM) *
This was years ago, the time of linking hands round the perimeter. 30 years?


19 Dec 1982

Their confusion to the truth is evident, but personally I applaud the peace women for their determination and dedication to their cause.

However, the moment they start causing damage, attacking moving vehicles, placing people lives at risk, even children and babies, they became nothing but thugs.


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post Sep 11 2017, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Sep 11 2017, 01:40 PM) *
19 Dec 1982

Their confusion to the truth is evident, but personally I applaud the peace women for their determination and dedication to their cause.

However, the moment they start causing damage, attacking moving vehicles, placing people lives at risk, even children and babies, they became nothing but thugs.

I dislike the term "peace" women and "peace" camp.
I think it is a misnomer.

There are very few of us who don't want peace, it's just that different people have different ways of trying to keep it.

The notion that nuclear weapons can be uninvented and simply disposed of is unrealistic.

What has kept relative peace in the developed world for so long?
Is it "peace" camps or the threat of the weapons themselves?
Or maybe it is just common sense diplomacy.

"Protest" camp / women is better.
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post Sep 11 2017, 04:02 PM
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Very few protest actions have had a positive outcome through the course of history . Only in hindsight do we view them as of importance . Did the women encamped at the base prevent a nuclear war ? No . If the cruise missiles had remained in the US would we have been here now ? Probably , because everyone knows that when the first button is pushed it is end of planet Earth .
It is all about posturing , and we know how much politicians like to do that .

With regards to Greenham common , I think some of it's earlier history is of more interest .


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post Sep 12 2017, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Sep 11 2017, 11:16 AM) *
25 years ago, LTCol Neveux handed over the "keys" to the base back to the RAF Commander. This ended some 50 years of an American "presence" dating back to the build of the D-Day.

Over the past week the Greenham Trust have been celebrating their 20th anniversary with a series of events in Newbury and on the base.

While the events have been slanted towards those outside the fence, the publicity today still hovers around them. We know that the history of the base occurred inside the fence.

During the week I have heard some very stupid comments from those outside the gates, that while they were non-violence, they weren't non action. The reason why they first started cutting the fences is to let the deer trapped inside the base out.
They also said they were being imaginative when "marking" the vehicles being deployed that were supposedly able to slip into the country side unnoticed. When stated that these actions put lives at danger, there was no answer. When asked about was driving cars into convoys again putting lives at risk, again, no answer.

At another event there was a comment made about it being not true that women sitting down in front of moving vehicles holding babies and children. Again there was not comment even though a photo was put up on the screen showing a mother sat down holding a baby in front of a car.

I think the biggest joke of the week was a speaker who apparently works with the UN nuclear proliferation treaties calling the USAF soldiers, squaddies, and calling the hardened shelters silos. It goes to show that their experts don't know their ***** from a hole in the ground. FYI, I did ask this expert did they know the difference between a missile silo and a shelter, and she said it didn't matter, as it was only a technical term. Nice to know that people don't know the technical terms for the fields they work in.

Lastly, I was to be interviewed on the radio this morning on BBC Radio Berkshire. This has been cancelled due to a water issue in Reading. Again, push to the side.

Anyway, it's been 25 years since we left RAF Greenham Common, and since then the threat to the world has not diminished, as seen as the events since the 11th of Sept 2001.
I missed being stationed at the base, as it was one of my best assignments. I do have the pleasure to still be living in the Newbury area, as it is a great place to live and raise a family.
To my brothers and sisters who have served at RAF Greenham Common over the past 75 years, God Bless you all. We done a great job, and be proud of what we accomplished.



Wasn't it 100 years of Greenham Common? Not 50 years of RAF Greenham Common.
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post Sep 12 2017, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Sep 12 2017, 11:17 AM) *
Wasn't it 100 years of Greenham Common? Not 50 years of RAF Greenham Common.


Yes it was, but I got feedback that the show started in WWII.
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