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Richard Garvie
post Nov 12 2010, 12:48 PM
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Sorry to start another political thread, but I have just published our alternative to the spending cuts at Wesdt Berks here: http://www.newburylabourparty.org/a-better-way

Forget that it's a Labour Party plan for a second, what do you think of the content? Hopefully the Tories will think twice before attacking public services again and instead look at Council waste. We could have saved more than £12m, but we just don't have the detail to see what some departments do.
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post Nov 12 2010, 02:19 PM
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You are not sorry.

End this party political guff.
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Richard Garvie
post Nov 12 2010, 02:48 PM
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Why is it guff? It is an alternative to what the Tories have approved, and in my view is better than hitting services used by the elderly and young people.
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post Nov 12 2010, 02:56 PM
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Not more political drivel.
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post Nov 12 2010, 03:00 PM
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Someone has done a fair bit of work. There are certainly some creditable savings.


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post Nov 12 2010, 03:05 PM
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No. This catastrophic mess was caused by Labour and socialism, the main goal of which is big government and the destruction of capitalism and individual freedom. They have no interest in helping the proletariat to move up socially, then they would lose their support.

We NEED a small state. Big government has been a disaster. It is time everyone learned to look after themselves and stop looking to the state to solve their issues.
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post Nov 12 2010, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 12 2010, 03:00 PM) *
Someone has done a fair bit of work. There are certainly some creditable savings.
Where!?!
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post Nov 12 2010, 03:18 PM
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In my opinion it is about time that NWN put a stop to Mr Garvie using this Forum as a vehicle to peddle socialist claptrap at every conceivable opportunity.
I for one am pretty sick of it and urge NWN to do something about it before the forum is ruined.
Thread after thread gets the "Labour is best" routine whenever he can slip it in. angry.gif


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post Nov 12 2010, 03:20 PM
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maybe there should be the strapline

THERE NOW FOLLOWS A PARTY POLITICAL BROADCAST BY THE LABOUR PARTY

on every thread
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post Nov 12 2010, 03:25 PM
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I agree with you Bloggo.

The NWN needs to have a stern word with Garvie to stop his crude propaganda campaign.

There are other forums on the internet to discuss politics. This forum has the odd political position but it is now being DOMINATED by Garvie's party politics.

It is getting me mad now.
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post Nov 12 2010, 03:27 PM
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I'm hardly saying it's best, just pointing out an alternative and I asked your views on the content. Yet all certain people can do is take pot shots at Labour. As for the mess in West Berkshire, why did we not upgrade roads, build new (as in capacity) schools, ensure there were affordable houses and jobs for the younger generation to prevent this area having an older population above the UK average? Labour have not been complicit in West \Berkshire, and now we have suggested an alternative plan, all you can do is slag off the Labour Government which has very little to do with the mess West Berks are in or say that I'm talking about politics too much. Nobody is making you read the political threads.
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post Nov 12 2010, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Nov 12 2010, 03:27 PM) *
I'm hardly saying it's best, just pointing out an alternative and I asked your views on the content. Yet all certain people can do is take pot shots at Labour. As for the mess in West Berkshire, why did we not upgrade roads, build new (as in capacity) schools, ensure there were affordable houses and jobs for the younger generation to prevent this area having an older population above the UK average? Labour have not been complicit in West \Berkshire, and now we have suggested an alternative plan, all you can do is slag off the Labour Government which has very little to do with the mess West Berks are in or say that I'm talking about politics too much. Nobody is making you read the political threads.

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post Nov 12 2010, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Nov 12 2010, 03:25 PM) *
I agree with you Bloggo.

The NWN needs to have a stern word with Garvie to stop his crude propaganda campaign.

There are other forums on the internet to discuss politics. This forum has the odd political position but it is now being DOMINATED by Garvie's party politics.

It is getting me mad now.

This'll cheer you up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EucJIl0uonE

something about these threads always reminds me of the above..
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post Nov 12 2010, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Nov 12 2010, 03:32 PM) *
Yawn


Is that the best reply you can give? Isn't this forum a place to discuss local news? You might not like what I say, but surely I have a right to speak as much as you do. At least I've suggested an alternative rather than simply moan like others have done.
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post Nov 12 2010, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Nov 12 2010, 03:38 PM) *
Is that the best reply you can give? Isn't this forum a place to discuss local news?

Yes it is but you are treating this forum as a political soap box.
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You might not like what I say, but surely I have a right to speak as much as you do.

Yes you do but you don't have the right to swamp it with labour biased political propaganda at each and every opportunity.


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post Nov 12 2010, 03:53 PM
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Absolutely.

I hope you are getting the message now Garvie.
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Richard Garvie
post Nov 12 2010, 03:56 PM
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Ok. Forget that I'm a Labour party member and that the info is on a Labour website, do the alternative proposals have merit?

Lets have some no political threads on here and I'm happy to take part in a "non-political" way. Most threads turn when somebody has a pop at me for being in the Labour party... such as the Tesco thread!!!
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Richard Garvie
post Nov 12 2010, 03:57 PM
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And yes, I am aware of the hig number of threads I comment in (hence the apology for ANOTHER political thread).
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post Nov 12 2010, 04:13 PM
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Why even bother complaining about 'political' posts? Just don't read them. Certainly don't bother replying to them if they annoy you so much.
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post Nov 12 2010, 04:25 PM
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PS re. cutting budgets, the excellent P J O'Rorke's Parliament of Whores http://goo.gl/PyRzq is well worth a read whatever your political persuasion (for those who don't know him, O'Rorke is a libertarian/republican ex-hippie draft dodger).

In one chapter - I think it's the one titled 'OUR GOVERNMENT: WHAT THE F*** DO THEY DO ALL DAY AND WHY DOES IT COST SO MUCH GODDAMMED MONEY?' (see 'look inside') he demolishes the Federal govt budget. Hilarious stuff.
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