Halal, why should we put up with this?, If fox hunting with dogs is outlawed, why not Halal? Options

[newres]

You agree with FGM?

Because I disagree with MGM I agree with FGM? Are you simple?

[Andy Capp]

FGM done SAFELY?
OH my dear GOD.
You are the most repugnant person in my life right now. You absolutely SHOCK me.

He was being ironic.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Yes. I believe newres objects to all medical procedures on religious grounds, not medical. The majority of MCs are done for religious or cultural reasons. Do you agree with that?

But you would agree a massive difference to the quality of an individual's life results in one procedure (FGM) but not the other (Circumcision)??

I disagree with both but one has a seriously more detrimental effect to a persons life. Or am I...to inject a little bit of humour in a pretty depressing subject missing something??

[x2lls]

But you would agree a massive difference to the quality of an individual's life results in one procedure (FGM) but not the other (Circumcision)??

I disagree with both but one has a seriously more detrimental effect to a persons life. Or am I...to inject a little bit of humour in a pretty depressing subject missing something??

Are any of you aware of how big a thing this is?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Are any of you aware of how big a thing this is?

Yes. But we can argue the to55 on this forum but we wont change a **** thing. The script is written.

30 years and not a single FGM prosecution. You think thats gonna change any time soon??? Newres woukd be up in arms.

[je suis Charlie]

Yes. But we can argue the to55 on this forum but we wont change a **** thing. The script is written.

30 years and not a single FGM prosecution. You think thats gonna change any time soon??? Newres woukd be up in arms.

I think the Muppets total inability to distinguish a legal procedure from an illegal mutilation speaks volumes. The mental acuity of a gatepost.

[Andy Capp]

Yes. But we can argue the to55 on this forum but we wont change a **** thing. The script is written.

30 years and not a single FGM prosecution. You think thats gonna change any time soon??? Newres woukd be up in arms.

No he wouldn’t.

[Andy Capp]

I think the Muppets total inability to distinguish a legal procedure from an illegal mutilation speaks volumes.

That’s a lie.

[newres]

So let’s put it another way then that takes into account your defence of male genital mutilation. And bear in mind if you will that Muslims do this too for tribal reasons. It’s not just Jews.

If we found it that FGM had health benefits including lessening the risk of AIDS in a few African countries and was carried out always by a surgeon under hospital conditions and was legal, would you still think it was wrong? The only logical answer you can give is no if you think MGM is ok or you are a hypocrite.

[Andy Capp]

Muslims make up the biggest group who practice MC.

[Biker1]

How about ..............Removal or mutilation of body parts because it is thought it may please a sky fairy...........BAD
Removal of body parts for medical reasons where the action would be of benefit to the person concerned............GOOD???

[Andy Capp]

Good and bad are subjective terms; advocates of what many of us see as bad can be argued to be good. Places with a high proportion of male circumcision, places like the Middle East and the US, have researched the subject to support their practice.

FGM is just plain violence, often from which the victim never fully recovers, male circumcision is something the victim often recovers. Neither are usually necessary.

[SirWilliam]

How about ..............Removal or mutilation of body parts because it is thought it may please a sky fairy...........BAD
Removal of body parts for medical reasons where the action would be of benefit to the person concerned............GOOD???

I suggest maybe you should change the first line to read "good" and the second "bad" and see what the response is.

[Turin Machine]

That’s a lie.

But is it? Point us to the falsehood.

[Turin Machine]

If we found it that FGM had health benefits including lessening the risk of AIDS in a few African countries and was carried out always by a surgeon under hospital conditions and was legal, would you still think it was wrong? The only logical answer you can give is no if you think MGM is ok or you are a hypocrite.

But, and this is important, it doesn't.

[Turin Machine]

Muslims make up the biggest group who practice MC.

And your point is?

[newres]

But, and this is important, it doesn't.

There isn't really a case for circumcision being beneficial except in AIDS ridden countries unless it's to fix a genuine medical problem. For me, removing body parts of 8 day old babies is just plain old abuse. Far worse than piercing a baby's ears.

[je suis Charlie]

There isn't really a case for circumcision being beneficial except in AIDS ridden countries unless it's to fix a genuine medical problem. For me, removing body parts of 8 day old babies is just plain old abuse. Far worse than piercing a baby's ears.

That come across as almost, racist?

[newres]

That come across as almost, racist?

So I'm a muppet and a racist then.

[je suis Charlie]

So I'm a muppet and a racist then.

Let's have others pass judgement. He who is without sin.