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Posted by: graham Jul 9 2010, 03:45 PM
I can`t belive these idiot`s have been allowed to reduce our roads to one way !
When we had roads works going on around newbury, they wouldnt allow access through the race couse to ease the traffic on Hambridge rd.
Now we have to sit in traffic, and taken other routes home because of the races and
they would dream of reducing there enterance fee for the people that live in Newbury.
see you in the traffic !
Posted by: pinkfluffyclouds Jul 9 2010, 04:08 PM
It is certainly stacking up out there. I don't travel round that side of the town so the roadworks did not affect me but can completely understand your frustration.
Posted by: Bill1 Jul 9 2010, 04:40 PM
You'd have thought it'd be people trying to escape SIMPLY (d)RE(a)D(ful) not the other way round, oh hang on though, this is trendy hip and with it Newbury................................ 
Posted by: spartacus Jul 9 2010, 09:13 PM
Cheer up Graham you miserable sod....
Posted by: user23 Jul 10 2010, 06:33 AM
Posted by: graham Jul 10 2010, 09:16 AM
I normally cycle to work but because of meeting this week i`ve had to use the car !
Posted by: JeffG Jul 10 2010, 09:28 AM
So what was the traffic like on the A339 south last night? Did my cunning plan (off the M4 eastbound around 6.30pm at Hungerford, A4, Hamstead Marshall, Enborne Road into Newbury) save me anything?
Posted by: graham Jul 10 2010, 10:11 AM
Have you seen the state of Newbury lately ?
Its run down, the town centre is a mess, the roads are knackered!
Posted by: user23 Jul 10 2010, 10:36 AM
Its run down, the town centre is a mess, the roads are knackered!
I certainly wouldn't describe the Market Place as run down but then perhaps my definition of run down is different to yours.
Posted by: Strafin Jul 10 2010, 10:58 AM
Newbury's a hole. Maybe, just maybe when all the renovations are complete it will have been worth it, but by then the damage will be done.
Posted by: JeffG Jul 10 2010, 01:48 PM
OP took his own thread off topic! Any answer to my question in post #7, please?
Posted by: Iommi Jul 10 2010, 02:02 PM
What do you mean by last night? It was OK through town at 18:00.
Posted by: JeffG Jul 10 2010, 02:11 PM
Thanks for the info. I was only going by what I had read earlier about the town being potentially gridlocked with people arriving for the Simply Red concert. That was the reason for my diversion - it seems it wasn't needed, but better safe than sorry eh? And it's a prettier route
Edit: I was stuck for a couple of hours in a town centre gridlock when we had the unexpected snow, and it ain't funny.
Posted by: Andy Jul 10 2010, 02:13 PM
Its run down, the town centre is a mess, the roads are knackered!
Leave then
Posted by: Strafin Jul 10 2010, 02:31 PM
^^^And it's full of people like him ^^^
Posted by: Iommi Jul 10 2010, 03:00 PM
I totally agree. I think there was traffic for the races earlier.
Posted by: JeffG Jul 10 2010, 03:16 PM
Ah, there was racing as well? Double whammy!
Posted by: HJD Jul 10 2010, 04:22 PM
I certainly wouldn't describe the Market Place as run down but then perhaps my definition of run down is different to yours.
It certainly didn't look very nice by the Bus Station this morning ( Opposite Liquid !! ) with a large trail of blood along the pavement. Unless of course some one had a nose bleed, the thought of the delightful paved Market Place proving to exciting for them.
Posted by: user23 Jul 10 2010, 06:04 PM
Posted by: Strafin Jul 10 2010, 06:34 PM
Why do you think we should leave? Isn't that a bit defeatist? I have spent most of my life here in Newbury and just because the council seems to have gone mad for a couple of years and ruined it, I would rather stay and try to make it better thank you. Why don't you lot leave and go somewhere where they would appreciate you more? France or somewhere wholly socialist.
Posted by: Hugh Saskin Jul 10 2010, 07:36 PM
Seem to recall we had this sort of discussion some months back when I posed the question 'where, of a similar size and within a similar distance of London, is better than Newbury? Someone suggested Wokingham but few other takers. Anyone else suggest somewhere appreciably better than Newbury?
Posted by: Strafin Jul 10 2010, 08:31 PM
Why does it have to be the same size? There are plenty of places that I would deem better, but you never know unless you actually live there. Winchester, Eastleigh, and Wokingham are three. Maidenhead seems nice too. And Windsor but that's probably a bit expensive. My family are here although I met my wife in Yorkshire. I brought her down here because it used to be so nice. If I were to move it would be to The States, which takes a bit more organising than just deciding to go on a whim.
Posted by: graham Jul 11 2010, 09:53 PM
user23
have you driven down London rd ? there`s boards up where the garage use to be, drive on a bit further
and there is more rubble on the corner of park way which is going to be a hotel and then there`s the park way development which has run out of money again because there`s a lack of interest from new buisness`s and this info came from some one who works in Marks and spencer,
been in the town ? well the start of the town looks like a post card from Iraq with half a building on the left hand side and then in the middle of the town there boards and windows painted white where shops have closed and not been re opened by other buisness`s, oh but we do have x3 Tesco stores x4 if you include the one in thatcham now do we no why we needed another tesco ? surely we could have had Morrision`s or Asda but we ended up with another tesco so i wonder who took the back hander there!
Newbury used to be a really nice town with a good town centre and money put back in to it, but those days seem to be long gone, the council does nothing for the Newbury residents any more take friday they close roads for the races and simply red gig but still allow road work to continue on on major roads around the race course! now would`nt it make sense to carry out the road works at night ? it must be safer for the work men and less traffic.
west berks or Newbury council want people to come to Newbury and spend the day here shopping going to the cinema or looking around newbury that sort of thing like you would do in Swindon, Reading, basingstoke
point made ! 
Posted by: spartacus Jul 11 2010, 10:19 PM
Problem.....
Road works at night might be advisable for safety reasons on high speed/high volume roads like the A34. M4 or A4 outside of the towns....... But try carrying out roadworks at night on residential roads and you find that residents complain about the noise, the smell of tarmac, the floodlights, ummm. the noise, the inconvenience. Yes even though they might be tucked up in bed, they'll complain about the inconvenience...
And to top it all, it costs an awful lot more to get workmen to commit to working unsociable hours..... not a sensible use of limited funds.
Posted by: Andy Jul 12 2010, 01:21 AM
have you driven down London rd ? there`s boards up where the garage use to be, drive on a bit further
and there is more rubble on the corner of park way which is going to be a hotel and then there`s the park way development which has run out of money again because there`s a lack of interest from new buisness`s and this info came from some one who works in Marks and spencer,
been in the town ? well the start of the town looks like a post card from Iraq with half a building on the left hand side and then in the middle of the town there boards and windows painted white where shops have closed and not been re opened by other buisness`s, oh but we do have x3 Tesco stores x4 if you include the one in thatcham now do we no why we needed another tesco ?
Newbury used to be a really nice town with a good town centre and money put back in to it, but those days seem to be long gone, the council does nothing for the Newbury residents any more take friday they close roads for the races and simply red gig but still allow road work to continue on on major roads around the race course! now would`nt it make sense to carry out the road works at night ? it must be safer for the work men and less traffic.
west berks or Newbury council want people to come to Newbury and spend the day here shopping going to the cinema or looking around newbury that sort of thing like you would do in Swindon, Reading, basingstoke
point made !
Your obviously very naive and blinkered with your ideas of the definition of a poor place to live if that's the worst you can come up with.
Posted by: user23 Jul 12 2010, 07:23 AM
I was in the Market Place yesterday evening and I must say I think it looks very nice this time of year, surely you don't think it looks "run down"?
It's really up to Asda or Morrison whether open a shop round here, not the council, have you written to them asking why they haven't?
Posted by: graham Jul 12 2010, 08:14 AM
I was in the Market Place yesterday evening and I must say I think it looks very nice this time of year, surely you don't think it looks "run down"?
It's really up to Asda or Morrison whether open a shop round here, not the council, have you written to them asking why they haven't?
User23
did Asda & Morrison have the chance to come to Newbury I know most people would have liked another food store other than tesco,
The market place yes you have mentioned this a number of times ? what do you want me to say ?
Posted by: Biker1 Jul 12 2010, 08:17 AM
The possible reason for this is the extortionate rent that is STILL being charged for shops in the town.
If you want profitable retail businesses in the town then they need to be charged a realistic rent.
Posted by: Rosewinelover Jul 12 2010, 08:37 AM
I don't think Newbury is run down, but I do think it's going to end up like that. From what I have heard only Debenhams have signed up to the new shopping center. Any others? The Cinema ( I haven't been yet, but am planning to) is still awaiting food shops to go in. Where are they? Surely this should of been agreed and wrote into the contract before work started. People making the decisions about our town do it without thinking about what the people want. I for one do not want/like the new shopping center. We don't need it and I don't think people from other towns will use it. The Kennet Center (which i think is dyer apart from a few shops) just needed a re-vamp.
I love the park and want it to stay like that, the plans I have seen for it are dreadful.
I love living here, I just don't like how Newbury is becomming. If I could get a good job down in Weymouth then I would be there!
Posted by: graham Jul 12 2010, 08:48 AM
[quote name='Andy' date='Jul 12 2010, 02:21 AM' post='20376']
Your obviously very naive and blinkered with your ideas of the definition of a poor place to live if that's the worst you can come up with.
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blinkered dont you get out ? if this is what you want to see when you come to a town
the we have different views, i would like to see more money put back in to newbury and make it a nice town again there enougfh of it around Newbury, look at the buisness`s we have.
how long you lived in Newbury ?
i love living in newbury and wouldnt live in a bigger town but it seems that not every one has the towns best interest at heart.
Posted by: JeffG Jul 12 2010, 10:04 AM
On one of your points: the boarded up ex-Wheeler's garage is boarded up because it's being redeveloped as a site for a new Aldi supermarket. As far as I know, that's not a branch of Tesco.
Posted by: Andy Jul 12 2010, 10:09 AM
Your obviously very naive and blinkered with your ideas of the definition of a poor place to live if that's the worst you can come up with.
blinkered dont you get out ? if this is what you want to see when you come to a town
the we have different views, i would like to see more money put back in to newbury and make it a nice town again there enougfh of it around Newbury, look at the buisness`s we have.
how long you lived in Newbury ?
i love living in newbury and wouldnt live in a bigger town but it seems that not every one has the towns best interest at heart.
Try living somewhere like http://blog.lib.umn.edu/rehm0013/socialenterprise/Mumbai%20Slums.jpg and then maybe you'll hopefully understand the point I'm trying to make.
We'd all like to see more money pumped into the town and more varied shops open, but I'm not naive or stupid enough to believe it will happen before the recession is well and truly passed and until that point I'm grateful for what we have.
Additionally comparing a few building works with http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/02/13/iraq_wideweb__470x305,0.jpg and what they have to endure, in my opinion is frankly disgaceful and I for one would be thouroughly ashamed to even consider such an analogy.
P.S. 25 years
Posted by: Bloggo Jul 12 2010, 10:24 AM
the we have different views, i would like to see more money put back in to newbury and make it a nice town again there enougfh of it around Newbury, look at the buisness`s we have.
how long you lived in Newbury ?
i love living in newbury and wouldnt live in a bigger town but it seems that not every one has the towns best interest at heart.
Try living somewhere like http://blog.lib.umn.edu/rehm0013/socialenterprise/Mumbai%20Slums.jpg and then maybe you'll hopefully understand the point I'm trying to make.
We'd all like to see more money pumped into the town and more varied shops open, but I'm not naive or stupid enough to believe it will happen before the recession is well and truly passed and until that point I'm grateful for what we have.
Additionally comparing a few building works with http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/02/13/iraq_wideweb__470x305,0.jpg and what they have to endure, in my opinion is frankly disgaceful and I for one would be thouroughly ashamed to even consider such an analogy.
P.S. 25 years
You and Graham seem to be polarised to the point of hysteria.
There are too many unused retail premises in Newbury which does not create the right image. Couple this with the litter in Victoria park and the high incidence of street crime at the end of Bartholomew street and the drunks at St Nick's church then you do have to ask the question what can be done to improve this. Iraq it isn't and exagerating the situation does not help.
However i suspect that you do recognise the valid point being made.
Posted by: JeffG Jul 12 2010, 10:26 AM
Not nice, but you don't have to leave the UK to find places a lot worse than Newbury:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kpmarek/4120236025/
Posted by: Iommi Jul 12 2010, 10:28 AM
We're not a market town anymore, we are a 'supermarket' town. Surely that is progress?
Posted by: Bloggo Jul 12 2010, 10:53 AM
What seems to have happened over the last 30 years with Newbury and Thatcham is that continued house building for whatever reason, need, greed or accepted stratergy has attracted more people into the area and this in turn attracts the volume retail outlets to the detriment of the smaller and more personal retailers.
This has inevitably changed both towns beyond recognition.
Some would call this progress and in many ways it is but it is at the cost of the closer relationship that towns like Hungerford and Marlborough seem to maintain between residents themselves and the retail trade.
Newbury and Thatcham are turning into dormitory towns with little investment into local manufacturing opportunities. The vast majority of jobs just service the ever growing population.
Does seem a shame that the two towns have lost their identity. Once Parkway is occupied you could be in any town in the South.
Posted by: user23 Jul 12 2010, 11:38 AM
did Asda & Morrison have the chance to come to Newbury I know most people would have liked another food store other than tesco,
The market place yes you have mentioned this a number of times ? what do you want me to say ?
Surely they're able to submit a planning application to build a new shop any time they want?
Posted by: graham Jul 12 2010, 12:10 PM
Andy
There`s mixed reviews on the forum about Newbury, i agree that this recession has`nt helped some of the retail buisness `s but its been going on long before the recession.
Newbury has allways been slow on the up. like the cinema how long did that take 12 years wasnt it, it would be nice for the council or board to to respect the residents ideas and look at what would benefit Newbury and move Newbury forward and this might attract different retail company`s and bring in new buisness.
Posted by: Iommi Jul 12 2010, 12:17 PM
On topic, I wonder if this temporary road layout could be conceived as a 'dry run' for the new development in the race course. The ghost of Christmas future?
Posted by: Jayjay Jul 12 2010, 01:02 PM
did Asda & Morrison have the chance to come to Newbury I know most people would have liked another food store other than tesco,
The market place yes you have mentioned this a number of times ? what do you want me to say ?
Asda/Morisons could easily have come to Newbury. The old Woolworth would have been ideal, empty units at the retail park or they could have done a new build like Tesco and Waitrose did and Aldi are doing.
Posted by: Andy Jul 13 2010, 12:02 AM
They probably wouldn't have wanted to, as we already have Tesco, Sainsbury, Waitrose, Lidl and soon to be Aldi.
Too much competition
Posted by: Torchy Jul 13 2010, 08:39 AM
Tesco have SEVEN outlets in Newbury/Thatcham - the One-Stop stores are owned by Tesco 
Morrison's would do very well locally... Can anyone suggest a site?
Posted by: JeffG Jul 13 2010, 08:54 AM
Why do you say that? From the adverts I've seen, they don't look much different from Tesco's.
Posted by: Bloggo Jul 13 2010, 11:27 AM
If you want profitable retail businesses in the town then they need to be charged a realistic rent.
I counted 8 empty shops between the Clock Tower and the canal not including those that have been closed because of the Parkway developement.
I'm not sure how many Charity shops we have in Newbury but it is at least 5.
Not a great sign given that only 2 of the new Parkway shops have been taken up one of these by Debenham which will obviously vacate the Kennet centre.
Posted by: JMH Jul 13 2010, 11:38 AM
I can think of 8!!
Posted by: Bloggo Jul 13 2010, 11:43 AM
Good lord. Not a great indicator of demand by retail outlets jousting with each other to be situated in Newbury.
Maybe rents are too high? Something is not quite right with this picture.
Posted by: Biker1 Jul 13 2010, 11:48 AM
I'm not sure how many Charity shops we have in Newbury but it is at least 5.
Not a great sign given that only 2 of the new Parkway shops have been taken up one of these by Debenham which will obviously vacate the Kennet centre.
Take 31 Northbrook Street for example - the blue one next to the O2 shop.
£75,000pa rent and £20,244 rates!
Posted by: Bloggo Jul 13 2010, 12:08 PM
£75,000pa rent and £20,244 rates!
Does seem a lot but I don't know how this compares with comparable space in Reading or Basingstoke.
Posted by: Ron Jul 13 2010, 02:29 PM
I know of a telecomes company with office in London with good views over the Thames oposite Big Ben. Employ roughly 100 and rent is £100k. Don't know what the rates are though!
Posted by: Newbury Expat Jul 13 2010, 10:48 PM
Speaking of telecomms companies, a lot of the change in Newbury could be put down to the highs and lows of Vodafone.
Remembering Newbury when Vodafone spun out of Racal and had every other office building (seemingly) led to something of a boom for our high street and central areas. People were moving into the area and splashing out on houses and people were constantly in the high street over lunch, on breaks and after work which boosted foot traffic and passing trade.
Ever since Vodafone moved out of town, a number of office sites were left vacant and not subsequently filled. Add to that the effect of out of town retail parks and a recession as well as building owners evidently keeping rents high it has created something of a perfect storm.
As I only see the town infrequently now (maybe once a year give or take) the changes are much more apparant than if I had seen them gradually. I note that more shops are vacant and there are more of the cheap and cheerful variety and there generally being less 'buzz' in town on a Saturday.
Having said that Newbury is still a very nice place and one I still love to visit. Walking around the canal and through the park, by the wharf and so on all have a feel of a pleasant smallish town (and the out of town feel is excellent with Donnington castle, Highclere, pubs!, woods, rivers, hills and all the walks and outdoor activities that fit with that type of environment - just honest to goodness, down to earth countryside).
I don't rate the high street as once I did, though the out of town shops are larger and have a decent range (especially up near Tesco). One thing I do miss though is the indoor market where the Hogshead has been for a while - interesting place for a nose, though of course not high end.
Give me Newbury over Basingstoke/Reading/Swindon any day of the week!
Posted by: Swanlin Jul 16 2010, 10:15 PM
Dear Forum Friends
I have been reading your views and opinions for a while now and it has taken a one liner to make me want to express my opinion.
It was 'blinkered' Graham's opener of 'I cant believe these idiots have reduced our roads to one way!' that made me want to add my 10p worth. I think he must have visited the racecourse and borrowed a horse blinker?
I live around the corner of the racecourse, they (I understand with police wishes) closed one small road to one way from 3-9ish last Friday, residents had full access within the vacinity and the traffic flowed fine.
The racecourse (Graham's forementioned Idiot's) brings millions of pounds in to the town every year and it has done consistantly for years and will keep doing so. Yes the traffic is a pain but the racecourse was here before me, I decided to move here and you know what... I feel a lot better living in such a town than a town with nothing much going for it.
Other companies, as mentioned by fellow forum friends, came in to the town and is slowly slouching/slouched out of town.
Newbury offers so much more than the average UK town.
Lastly, if anyone attended or read about the Newbury 2025 conference at the corn exchange recently will of learnt Newbury is well above average in shop occupancy in the UK.
Lets love our town and thanks for reading my opinion.
Best wishes
Swan
Posted by: Iommi Jul 16 2010, 11:41 PM
Frankly, I have no interest in horse racing, so I am prejudiced, but the main effect of the race course seems to be 'peace' artists and louts and on occasion, heavy traffic. I'd rather it weren't here to be honest.
Posted by: NWNREADER Jul 17 2010, 09:23 AM
The racecourse (Graham's forementioned Idiot's) brings millions of pounds in to the town every year and it has done consistantly for years and will keep doing so.
I too live in the vicinity of the racecourse, and have done so for close on 30 years.....
Back in the days when the Osgoods managed the racecourse it was much more a 'Newbury' facility, and very much had community interests to heart. Not so now - the racecourse is a business 100% and makes its money for itself. I have not seen any evidence of millions of pounds (apart from the weight of the racegoers) coming to the town, and in many cases the spin-off from the alcohol etc discounts any benefit. No doubt the Landlord of The Old London apprentice would disagree.....
Also, having worked alongside racecourse management in the past I know any history of huge cash benefit to the town is an overstatement. Bags of goodwill, but not much hard cash.
Do not judge the impact of the recent use of the traffic plan (which overall was probably not needed in the event) as proof of the longer term effect. With the racecourse about to secure many £m for itself by developing the site and inflicting real infrastructure pain on the community I tend to suspect the traffic plan for the area will prove of huge benefit to the racecourse, of great pain to the rest of us.
Posted by: JeffG Jul 17 2010, 09:37 AM
I'm with Iommi on this one. I wonder how many Newbury residents have even attended a meeting? To me, they bring a horde of chavs to the town and block the roads with traffic, inconveniencing the locals.
Still, I suppose it's good for the local economy (though reading #53, perhaps not that much).
Posted by: dannyboy Jul 17 2010, 10:10 AM
Still, I suppose it's good for the local economy (though reading #53, perhaps not that much).
Is 'chav' now a term meant to mean anyone you don't like?
Posted by: dannyboy Jul 17 2010, 10:24 AM
Back in the days when the Osgoods managed the racecourse it was much more a 'Newbury' facility, and very much had community interests to heart. Not so now - the racecourse is a business 100% and makes its money for itself. I have not seen any evidence of millions of pounds (apart from the weight of the racegoers) coming to the town, and in many cases the spin-off from the alcohol etc discounts any benefit. No doubt the Landlord of The Old London apprentice would disagree.....
Also, having worked alongside racecourse management in the past I know any history of huge cash benefit to the town is an overstatement. Bags of goodwill, but not much hard cash.
Do not judge the impact of the recent use of the traffic plan (which overall was probably not needed in the event) as proof of the longer term effect. With the racecourse about to secure many £m for itself by developing the site and inflicting real infrastructure pain on the community I tend to suspect the traffic plan for the area will prove of huge benefit to the racecourse, of great pain to the rest of us.
Of course the racecourse makes money for itself. It also, as a major draw for the town earns a lot of cash for the restaurants, pubs, hotels & ancillary service trades based in the town.
Posted by: Jayjay Jul 17 2010, 01:45 PM
Please someone clarify 'chav'. This week alone it has been used for customers smoking outside a pub, people who wear Primark clothes and now the racing fraternity. Aah racing - maybe HRH is a chav.
Posted by: JeffG Jul 17 2010, 03:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
But not necessarily teenagers. As far as racing is concerned, mostly applied to the fraternity that travels up the M4 from the other side of the Severn Estuary. I'm sure there are other, more respectable types.
Which HRH did you have in mind, particularly?
Posted by: Jayjay Jul 17 2010, 08:46 PM
But not necessarily teenagers. As far as racing is concerned, mostly applied to the fraternity that travels up the M4 from the other side of the Severn Estuary. I'm sure there are other, more respectable types.
Which HRH did you have in mind, particularly?
A chav (pronounced /ˈtʃæv/ (CHAV)) is a stereotypical rough young person in the United Kingdom. The typical "chav"—known also as a charver in Yorkshire and North East England[1]—is said to be an aggressive teenager, sometimes unemployed or of white working class background, who repeatedly engages in anti-social behaviour,[2] such as street drinking, drug abuse and rowdiness, or other forms of juvenile delinquency.
I am even more confused now. I sometimes stand outside the pub with occasional ciggie and gin tonic, while wearing a Primark label. This is often before or after the races. But my teenager years are a mere memory, I have never had the energy, or inclination, to anything terribly anti social and worked all my life. Perhaps I am a wannabe.
Posted by: Rosewinelover Jul 17 2010, 09:08 PM
I am even more confused now. I sometimes stand outside the pub with occasional ciggie and gin tonic, while wearing a Primark label. This is often before or after the races. But my teenager years are a mere memory, I have never had the energy, or inclination, to anything terribly anti social and worked all my life. Perhaps I am a wannabe.
Can I join? I smoke outside pubs, with me glass of wine, sometimes in Primark gear....
Oh the shame.....
Posted by: JeffG Jul 18 2010, 12:39 PM
You didn't answer my question about which HRH - or maybe you meant HM?
Posted by: Iommi Jul 18 2010, 03:28 PM
Well spotted JeffG, when will they acknowledge how clever you are?
Posted by: Jayjay Jul 18 2010, 07:18 PM
Oops. Did mean HM.
Posted by: JeffG Jul 19 2010, 09:26 AM
No "clever" about it. And the smiley face doesn't make that comment any less insulting.
Posted by: Iommi Jul 19 2010, 10:40 AM
OK ... Well spotted JeffG, when will they acknowledge how 'unclever' you are?
Posted by: Bloggo Jul 19 2010, 11:09 AM
Iommi, you seem to be doing exactly what you condem others of.
You have stopped debating and are resorting to making fun of other posters.
Are you getting bored?
Posted by: Iommi Jul 19 2010, 11:27 AM
A debate would be nice ... but I'm not condemning, I'm taking the 'peace'. Worrying about the right acronym seems petty to me, especially as it is likely to be understood anyway. Some people on here seem to be more concerned with the technical merits of a post than actually contributing anything themselves. I would imagine my 'contribution index' is well within range despite my puerile and sarcastic comments on some of the forums pedants. JeffG deemed his repeated jibe as OK, but not mine.
"I never drew first blood..."
Posted by: JeffG Jul 19 2010, 12:47 PM
I am getting bored with this. It wasn't a jibe, or pedantry, it was just confusion on my part as to who was meant by 'HRH'. Why was it 'likely to be understood'?
Posted by: Iommi Jul 19 2010, 01:13 PM
I didn't believe you. Your use of smilies suggests you knew what was intended. I did. You sound too intelligent, to be so dim, if you can follow my point without taking offence.
BUT I'm not interested - it was meant as a bit of jollity, which regrettably offend you. I thought we knew each other now, clearly I was wrong. I posted a passage that I would have used as a bit of banter as if I were in a pub with friends. I was mistaken so I apologies for any offence.
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