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post Aug 21 2009, 02:12 PM
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Why do we never have any in this Country?

I suggest the following referendum on a number of issues - a 65% majority would be needed to pass any such vote and associated change to the law.

1. Should we be part of the EU?
2. Should we keep funding the monarchy?
3. Should the death penalty be introduced for proven child killers, police murderers, and serial killers?
4. Should people on long term benefits who have no medical condition be made to do voluntary work to keep the right to have their benefits?
5. Should school exams be re-designed with a new focus to indentify the 'bright' pupils rather than getting everyone to pass?
6. Should a proportional representation voting system be introduced?
7. Should we build more prisons?
8. Should corporal punishment be re-introduced to shools?
9. Should their be a cap on the numbers of immigrants that are allowed into the Country?
10. Should the National ID card scheme be completely scrapped?

Please vote as you would and we will have a 'straw poll'
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post Aug 21 2009, 02:26 PM
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We have had on plebiscite and that was in 1975 to see if we should stay in the Common Market. It was held by Wilson’s labour government.

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1. Should we be part of the EU?


No.

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2. Should we keep funding the monarchy?


I have no problems with this because if we never had a monarchy we would have to have something else instead and that would cost probably a lot more.

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3. Should the death penalty be introduced for proven child killers, police murderers, and serial killers?


I would prefer life imprisonment with hard labour... second option death penalty.

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4. Should people on long term benefits who have no medical condition be made to do voluntary work to keep the right to have their benefits?


It depends on the case; some people are out of work and want to work but can’t find anything; either because they are too old or have certain problems. But on the whole yes.

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5. Should school exams be re-designed with a new focus to indentify the 'bright' pupils rather than getting everyone to pass?


It depends what you mean by ‘bright’ kids. Some kids who are regarded as not bright have excelled in other areas; thus considered bright within that scope. Some people who you consider ‘bright’ are actually thick as two short blanks.

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6. Should a proportional representation voting system be introduced?


No as it would cause chaos; just look at Italy.


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7. Should we build more prisons?


Yes.

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8. Should corporal punishment be re-introduced to shools?


Yes.

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9. Should their be a cap on the numbers of immigrants that are allowed into the Country?


There has to be because of room; that should also include people coming from Europe (which at present have a right to come here).


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10. Should the National ID card scheme be completely scrapped?


Yes.
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post Aug 21 2009, 02:59 PM
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Someone else (like me earlier huh.gif ) posting in the wrong forum...

I won't answer here and clog things up further.
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post Aug 21 2009, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 21 2009, 03:59 PM) *
Someone else (like me earlier huh.gif ) posting in the wrong forum...

I won't answer here and clog things up further.



Why... this is for debate and the Newbury area; as these subjects concern people from Newbury then it is in the right place. wink.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 21 2009, 04:02 PM) *
Why... this is for debate and the Newbury area; as these subjects concern people from Newbury then it is in the right place. wink.gif

Your logic: A fish lives in the sea, therefore anything living in the sea is a fish.

This an off-topic post on the topic of which forum this post should be in wink.gif. The main topic is not Newbury-specific, it is a general post, therefore belongs in the other forum. End of.

(I made a mistake with the A-levels post and asked the Mods to move it - so far, no action.)
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post Aug 21 2009, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 21 2009, 04:13 PM) *
Your logic: A fish lives in the sea, therefore anything living in the sea is a fish.

This an off-topic post on the topic of which forum this post should be in wink.gif. The main topic is not Newbury-specific, it is a general post, therefore belongs in the other forum. End of.

(I made a mistake with the A-levels post and asked the Mods to move it - so far, no action.)


FFS Just answer the questions. angry.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 21 2009, 04:13 PM) *
Your logic: A fish lives in the sea, therefore anything living in the sea is a fish.

This an off-topic post on the topic of which forum this post should be in wink.gif. The main topic is not Newbury-specific, it is a general post, therefore belongs in the other forum. End of.

(I made a mistake with the A-levels post and asked the Mods to move it - so far, no action.)



Oh, I agree with you (to a point).... but do you think we should be too pedantic on here? I mean, where we write isn't going to affect our health or longevity. We still live in a fair and free society... even though we are writing on the NWN's forums. wink.gif

By the way; not everything in the sea are fish.... but everything in here are tadpoles. laugh.gif wink.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 21 2009, 03:12 PM) *
Why do we never have any in this Country?

I suggest the following referendum on a number of issues - a 65% majority would be needed to pass any such vote and associated change to the law.

1. Should we be part of the EU? No
2. Should we keep funding the monarchy? Yes
3. Should the death penalty be introduced for proven child killers, police murderers, and serial killers? No
4. Should people on long term benefits who have no medical condition be made to do voluntary work to keep the right to have their benefits? Yes
5. Should school exams be re-designed with a new focus to indentify the 'bright' pupils rather than getting everyone to pass? Yes
6. Should a proportional representation voting system be introduced? No
7. Should we build more prisons? Yes
8. Should corporal punishment be re-introduced to shools? No
9. Should their be a cap on the numbers of immigrants that are allowed into the Country? No
10. Should the National ID card scheme be completely scrapped? Yes

Please vote as you would and we will have a 'straw poll'

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post Aug 21 2009, 03:39 PM
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What would be the point?

Hardly anyone votes in elections these day and if there was a referendum every week, even less would vote.

Besides, as a parlimentary democracy, we have a referendum every 4-5 years. If we don't like how our representative has performed we replace them.
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post Aug 21 2009, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 21 2009, 03:12 PM) *
1. Should we be part of the EU?
2. Should we keep funding the monarchy?
3. Should the death penalty be introduced for proven child killers, police murderers, and serial killers?
4. Should people on long term benefits who have no medical condition be made to do voluntary work to keep the right to have their benefits?
5. Should school exams be re-designed with a new focus to indentify the 'bright' pupils rather than getting everyone to pass?
6. Should a proportional representation voting system be introduced?
7. Should we build more prisons?
8. Should corporal punishment be re-introduced to shools?
9. Should their be a cap on the numbers of immigrants that are allowed into the Country?
10. Should the National ID card scheme be completely scrapped?


(BTW, before you jump down my throat, I PM'd the Mod to get my post moved, and also mentioned this one - it was his decision.)

  1. Yes.
  2. Yes.
  3. No. But this is predicated anyway on a No answer to 1. (Can't say Yes to 1 and Yes to 3.)
  4. Yes, definitely. Though if they are made to do it, it's not exactly voluntary, is it? smile.gif
  5. Yes.
  6. Maybe.
  7. Whatever is necessary to prevent overcrowding.
  8. No. (Though I lived in fear of the cane!)
  9. Complicated one. For a start, any number should be based on net inflow (don't forget people leave as well). The number should be based on what the infrastructure can stand. And there should be a points system depending on what is needed.
  10. I have no problem with ID cards. They can be useful as long as it is not a legal requirement to carry one.
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post Aug 21 2009, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 21 2009, 07:12 AM) *
Why do we never have any in this Country?

I suggest the following referendum on a number of issues - a 65% majority would be needed to pass any such vote and associated change to the law.

1. Should we be part of the EU?
2. Should we keep funding the monarchy?
3. Should the death penalty be introduced for proven child killers, police murderers, and serial killers?
4. Should people on long term benefits who have no medical condition be made to do voluntary work to keep the right to have their benefits?
5. Should school exams be re-designed with a new focus to indentify the 'bright' pupils rather than getting everyone to pass?
6. Should a proportional representation voting system be introduced?
7. Should we build more prisons?
8. Should corporal punishment be re-introduced to shools?
9. Should their be a cap on the numbers of immigrants that are allowed into the Country?
10. Should the National ID card scheme be completely scrapped?
Please vote as you would and we will have a 'straw poll'


Not even sure if I'd be eligible, but as it's a forum smile.gif

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. Yes.
8. No
9. Yes
10. No
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 21 2009, 03:12 PM) *
Why do we never have any in this Country?



Because we live in a democratic system where governments are elected from a political party to represent your views in their decision making.

The general election is a "referendum".

You get what you vote for.

Read the party's manifesto before voting to ensure they will represent your views when decision making.

That's how it's supposed to work anyway. laugh.gif

Sometimes, as in the EU referendum promised, they either lie or change their minds. sad.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 21 2009, 04:16 PM) *
FFS Just answer the questions. angry.gif


Sorry TDH please could you expand on "FFS" as I don't understand? laugh.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Aug 21 2009, 06:12 PM) *
Sorry TDH please could you expand on "FFS" as I don't understand? laugh.gif



Well it's a bit like JFDI laugh.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 21 2009, 06:20 PM) *
Well it's a bit like JFDI laugh.gif


Oh nooooo! Not another one! What does that mean Biker1? tongue.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:44 PM
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1. Should we be part of the EU?
Yes, I agree in principle, but not in the form we have.

2. Should we keep funding the monarchy?
Yes, but they shouldn't profit.

3. Should the death penalty be introduced for proven child killers, police murderers, and serial killers?
No, not for the time being.

4. Should people on long term benefits who have no medical condition be made to do voluntary work to keep the right to have their benefits?
Yes, provided it is cost effective. No-one should expect something for nothing

5. Should school exams be re-designed with a new focus to identify the 'bright' pupils rather than getting everyone to pass?
Yes, but expand this to include trades and other skills.

6. Should a proportional representation voting system be introduced?
No, it seems pointless.

7. Should we build more prisons?
Yes, if we need the space, but some people are in prison who perhaps shouldn't be.

8. Should corporal punishment be re-introduced to schools?
Yes, the little b*stards. tongue.gif

9. Should their be a cap on the numbers of immigrants that are allowed into the Country?
Yes, we should have a population policy and demography, so that we know how many and what type.

10. Should the National ID card scheme be completely scrapped?
Yes, the government are unreliable
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post Aug 21 2009, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Aug 21 2009, 06:28 PM) *
Oh nooooo! Not another one! What does that mean Biker1? tongue.gif


Just F***** Do It ! ohmy.gif

We always seem to have JFDI jobs at work! laugh.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 21 2009, 06:44 PM) *
3. Should the death penalty be introduced for proven child killers, police murderers, and serial killers?
No, not for the time being.



What is that supposed to mean? I thought you were dead against it? Either you are or you are not?
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post Aug 21 2009, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 21 2009, 07:36 PM) *
What is that supposed to mean? I thought you were dead against it? Either you are or you are not?

I think no is a definitive answer, don't you?
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post Aug 21 2009, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 21 2009, 08:06 PM) *
I think no is a definitive answer, don't you?



it is, and we want to keep our options open... wise my friend. I see you are a forward thinker. wink.gif

Maybe you should be made decision maker in who swings or not? rolleyes.gif
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