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Newbury Today Forum _ Random Rants _ Global Warming aka Climate Change
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 16 2009, 01:59 PM
Is this just an excuse for Hundreds of 'Politicians' to have a free lunch at our expense and not actually do anything?
If it gets a couple of degrees warmer in Newbury I may even get a nice tan. 
Posted by: Good Boy Racer Dec 16 2009, 03:48 PM
I've said this so many times, Global Warming is put to us like WE are the ones that are causing it... it's a natural event, most scientists will tell you this but are not listened. Its a way to make money and like you said TallDarkAndHandsom it IS an excuse for Politicians to go have free lunch and spend our well earned money on rediculas VIP business tickets across the other side of the world so they can do what they are told to do... they would be out of the job otherwise. Just like the popular 'Cancer Research', We give away lots of money to find a cure... and no cure. What if they find a cure? Out of the Job, no more work.
Anyway, that's my opinion, i don't believe in what most of the government say anyway, you choose the best root for you, i've found mine.
Posted by: Jayjay Dec 16 2009, 05:21 PM
it IS an excuse for Politicians to go have free lunch and spend our well earned money on rediculas VIP business tickets across the other side of the world so they can do what they are told to do... they would be out of the job otherwise. Just like the popular 'Cancer Research', We give away lots of money to find a cure... and no cure. What if they find a cure? Out of the Job, no more work.Anyway, that's my opinion, i don't believe in what most of the government say anyway, you choose the best root for you, i've found mine.
Don't believe in man made global warming - explain the ice age, 600 years ago spring flowers bloomed at Xmas, 200 years ago skating on the Thames. Do believe we should save natural resources though.
As to Cancer Research; research into cancer has saved lives. Other half has bowel cancer and now returned to work thanks to pioneering treatment.
Posted by: Iommi Dec 16 2009, 07:15 PM
Climate change is just a symptom, the really problem we got is the world's population and the disproportionate energy 'The West' take from the land.
Posted by: JeffG Dec 16 2009, 08:13 PM
Two out of three of your examples go against your argument, so I'm not sure what precisely you are trying to prove.
Climate change may not be proved 100% to be caused by man's activity, but are you prepared to take the risk that it's not?
Someone said recently that if you were told that the plane you were about to fly on had a 75% chance of crashing, would you make alternative arrangements?
Posted by: Strafin Dec 16 2009, 09:22 PM
For me it would depend on who told me. I don't personally believe there's any sort of global warming anyway, but I could be wrong. I will not back myself up with points to prove myself wrong though!
Posted by: Iommi Dec 16 2009, 09:29 PM
The chances are, most people 'chose' to believe, or not. Like I said though, we WILL need to sort out what we are going to do for energy, food and water in years to come, regardless of the climate.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 17 2009, 09:33 AM
For centuries disease and World Wars helped 'cull' the human population. Due to Nuclear Weapons and MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) and the massive improvements in health care this no longer occurs. We (human beings) have not factored this into our behavioural patterns and carry on procreating at an alarming rate. This above all is the reason that the planets ability to support us is doomed to failure. In 2 million years time we will be a short footnote in the planets history.
Posted by: JeffG Dec 17 2009, 10:47 AM
So who's going to write the footnote?
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 17 2009, 11:06 AM
I am afraid no-one. You must admit that our destruction is inebitible and that the planet will breathe a sigh of relief when the parasitic human race is gone.
Posted by: Bloggo Dec 17 2009, 12:27 PM
I find the whole argument for man-made global warming a little confusing.
How can it be taken seruisly when there are constantly examples of energy being wasted by the like of Prince Charles and Gordon Brown both travelling to the Copenhagen meeting in private planes, the goverment promoting the virtues of a third runway at Heathrow, the continued waste of lights being left on at night in office blocks, etc, etc.
If it is a problem then no one is really doing anything about it and until I see our Government leading by example then I don't feel too excited about it.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 17 2009, 01:15 PM
How can it be taken seruisly when there are constantly examples of energy being wasted by the like of Prince Charles and Gordon Brown both travelling to the Copenhagen meeting in private planes, the goverment promoting the virtues of a third runway at Heathrow, the continued waste of lights being left on at night in office blocks, etc, etc.
If it is a problem then no one is really doing anything about it and until I see our Government leading by example then I don't feel too excited about it.
The best way to control a population and raise taxation is to promote fear. Any government knows that.
Posted by: Iommi Dec 17 2009, 01:53 PM
Governments do appear two faced, but the idea is that a few (the heads of governemt), can govern the needs of the many.
Posted by: Bloggo Dec 17 2009, 02:15 PM
Yes I know what you mean but they aren't.
More examples of unnessary energy consumption are cars still being made with large engines. There is no real government initiatives to promote solar energy for the masses. The list goes on.
If it is as serious as we are being led to believe then there would be more evidence of measures being put in place to compensate.
Posted by: JeffG Dec 17 2009, 04:01 PM
While I have no reason to doubt this is true, as Wikipedia would say - "citation needed".
Posted by: Bloggo Dec 17 2009, 04:06 PM
Why? Have you missed the point?
Posted by: Good Boy Racer Dec 17 2009, 04:38 PM
Global warming = Money Maker / New World Order.
Posted by: JeffG Dec 17 2009, 04:54 PM
No. I was just asking where you got this information from. Simple question.
Posted by: Hugh Saskin Dec 17 2009, 05:18 PM
Sadly, Jeff, it appears to be true. Makes you wonder who advises these people and whether they think the rest of us won't notice.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/hypocrite-prince-charles-slammed-for-flying-to-copenhagen-in-jet-with-large-carbon-footprint-20091217-kxzl.html
Posted by: Bloggo Dec 17 2009, 07:59 PM
I saw it in the Mail and I see that Hugh has seen it also.
Posted by: Hugh Saskin Dec 17 2009, 08:04 PM
I can stomach most things but please never accuse me of reading The Daily Mail!!! I got it from the Sydney Morning Herald..
Posted by: Iommi Dec 17 2009, 08:08 PM
The best we can say is that none knows for sure, but like I said, I believe the projected population of the earth in years to come is by far a greater threat to our near future well being than the weather or sea-level.
Posted by: Bloggo Dec 17 2009, 08:10 PM
Whoops, I stand corrected. Pretty sharp rebuff.
May I ask, strange paper for you to be subscribing to isn't it.
Posted by: JeffG Dec 17 2009, 08:11 PM
Ok thanks - a reference was all I was asking for.
Posted by: Bloggo Dec 17 2009, 08:11 PM
I agree.
When the "sleeping dragon" wakes we are all in trouble.
Posted by: Hugh Saskin Dec 17 2009, 08:24 PM
May I ask, strange paper for you to be subscribing to isn't it.
No worries - I wouldn't give a XXXX for anything else, mate - fancy a tinnie?
Posted by: Bloggo Dec 17 2009, 08:30 PM
Fair Dinkum sport.
Posted by: Hugh Saskin Dec 17 2009, 08:37 PM
Yes, and an odd thing is that the London workscene of the late 1990s and early 2000s was full of lovely, lovely Oz temps but now they have almost all home to Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne etc. Not many made it here, though (one described Newbury as being out in the sticks), but I did take some round the Newbury Show...
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