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Posted by: GMR Sep 7 2015, 04:08 PM

According to reports, everybody – or almost everybody – will get Fibre optic broadband by 2017. In my area, it has it and most of Newbury (as in Newbury Town) has it. I was driving through Stockcross today and they are in the process of getting it (I believe by the end of this month). Are you happy with your coverage or don't you have it yet? Are you expecting it or is your area beyond reach?

If you have got it, are you happy with it and what are your speeds?


Posted by: je suis Charlie Sep 7 2015, 05:18 PM

Nay lad, good old copper were good enough for Dad, good enough for me. Seriously getting 13Mb, so good enough for my needs.

Posted by: On the edge Sep 7 2015, 05:58 PM

Have the Virgin cable, no idea of size, but no issues since they switched on.

Posted by: Petra Sep 7 2015, 06:15 PM

Dear all,

Again, we must thank WBC for playing their important part in rolling out Fibre Optics across West Berkshire. We shall lead the way in building West Berkshire into a modern and high tech area, so that big and small business will find a welcome hand when they set their roots down and to build their infrastructure.

My home gets 45 MB and I’ve been very happy with the service and again I must mention WBC for their input behind the scenes in getting us such a wonderful service. There is, nowadays, too much criticism directed at our council officials so it is nice to give a congratulatory well done to them.

Yours

Petra.

Posted by: GMR Sep 7 2015, 06:33 PM

Praise the lord, praise WBC, in fact praise anybody you want, I am just glad I've got it. Before had it, I could just manage 1.9 MBs.

Posted by: Andy Capp Sep 7 2015, 06:37 PM

I live in a populated and affluent area a mile from the town center and have 'F' all fibre, and low grade ADSL max. Screw WBC and BT!

Posted by: GMR Sep 7 2015, 06:44 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 7 2015, 07:37 PM) *
I live in a populated and affluent area a mile from the town center and have 'F' all fibre, and low grade ADSL max. Screw WBC and BT!





I am sure that Petra, or WBC, will tell you that you will eventually get it, thanks to her (sorry) WBC. Be happy that you don't have to wait long for 2017, funnily enough, it is roughly the same time that Spurs will have to wait for their new stadium. So we both will have something to cheer about laugh.gif wink.gif


Posted by: On the edge Sep 7 2015, 06:44 PM

QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 7 2015, 07:33 PM) *
Praise the lord, praise WBC, in fact praise anybody you want, I am just glad I've got it. Before had it, I could just manage 1.9 MBs.


Let's just hope it's something they have got right. In fact, it's no bad thing for WBC to be facilitating infrastructure improvements; exactly what they should be doing. The only thing that concerns me is that we've only ever had one player, BT. In effect the monopoly fixed line network provider who are also very active in the commercial market place. Arguably, having their cake and being able to eat it. This sits ill with our market forces economy and says much for the weakness of regulation in this area. Why worry? I suspect this state of affairs means we have significantly delayed proper broadband delivery to rural areas and potentially the solution will cost rather more than necessary. Nonetheless, that is hardly the fault of WBC who are doing their level best to house train a monopoly.

Posted by: MontyPython Sep 7 2015, 08:50 PM

QUOTE (Petra @ Sep 7 2015, 07:15 PM) *
Dear all,

Again, we must thank WBC for playing their important part in rolling out Fibre Optics across West Berkshire. We shall lead the way in building West Berkshire into a modern and high tech area, so that big and small business will find a welcome hand when they set their roots down and to build their infrastructure.

My home gets 45 MB and I’ve been very happy with the service and again I must mention WBC for their input behind the scenes in getting us such a wonderful service. There is, nowadays, too much criticism directed at our council officials so it is nice to give a congratulatory well done to them.

Yours

Petra.


Praise the lord to WBC for wasting more public money to subsidise those who live in the countryside! And no doubt at an inflated price. But it's an excuse for WBC staff to praise their inefficient organisation.

Posted by: MontyPython Sep 7 2015, 08:52 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 7 2015, 06:18 PM) *
Nay lad, good old copper were good enough for Dad, good enough for me. Seriously getting 13Mb, so good enough for my needs.


Surely now't better than t' 'oming pigeon lad? laugh.gif

Posted by: je suis Charlie Sep 7 2015, 09:33 PM

QUOTE (MontyPython @ Sep 7 2015, 09:52 PM) *
Surely now't better than t' 'oming pigeon lad? laugh.gif

At least when the pigeon stops working you can eat the **** thing.

Posted by: motormad Sep 8 2015, 10:05 AM

Stop typing in stupid fonts.
It doesn't make you edgy and different, it makes you a joffa.

I don't know what internet we have where I rent but it's plenty quick enough and downloads at about 5-8 meg.

More concerned about the issue with 3g / 4g coverage.

Posted by: Biker1 Sep 8 2015, 10:15 AM

Does BT have a monopoly any more?
The copper network is "unbundled" i.e. it is open to use by other suppliers.
Admittedly the maintenance is mainly provided by Openreach who are a subsidiary of BT.
The Virgin fibre network was provided and is maintained by a another concern.

Posted by: On the edge Sep 8 2015, 12:09 PM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 8 2015, 11:15 AM) *
Does BT have a monopoly any more?
The copper network is "unbundled" i.e. it is open to use by other suppliers.
Admittedly the maintenance is mainly provided by Openreach who are a subsidiary of BT.
The Virgin fibre network was provided and is maintained by a another concern.


Openreach is a subsidiary of BT. Sure, other suppliers are able to use the network, but Openreach set the rules and fix the tariff. All properly 'regulated' of course and Openreach is totally arms length. Yeah, it isn't a monopoly....and the Emperor is fully clothed!

Yes, there are other private networks like Virgin, but development stalled because BT was made to open the public network. Reason? Because it wasn't sensible or economic to keep digging up roads to lay more and more private nets.

I'm a great believer in free market forces....provided there is a real free market.

Posted by: GMR Sep 8 2015, 03:00 PM

QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 8 2015, 11:05 AM) *
Stop typing in stupid fonts. It doesn't make you edgy and different, it makes you a joffa. I don't know what internet we have where I rent but it's plenty quick enough and downloads at about 5-8 meg. More concerned about the issue with 3g / 4g coverage.





I only write in one font; however, I did notice that when I write on my iphone then that is the way it comes out. So I can't do anything about it. I don't like it as much as you don't (that is the way it comes out).


Posted by: Don Sep 8 2015, 03:20 PM

As far as I know I've got ordinary broadband. My son deals with all that. All I can say is that I am happy with how it works. But then again I am not that computer literature. I just look up facts, my wife does the shopping and I occasionally go on forums such as this.

Posted by: Berkshirelad Sep 9 2015, 01:28 PM

We have fibre from Virgin and get around 100 Mbps.

Could go higher, but it would cost me more...

Posted by: Ken Sep 11 2015, 12:28 PM

I live just outside a rural village and for BT phase of the project, the cabinet that we are connected to which feeds us and other parts of the village was not included. So less than 8 mb down speeds for us.

We have now been told that areas not covered by the BT phase will be covered by the more expensive to the end user Gigaclear solution.

So I am rather disappointed by the Superfast Berskhire project. They claim BT did not bid on phase 2 at all but this article paints a slightly different picture.

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/12/berkshire-uk-bodges-phase-2-bduk-superfast-broadband-contract-tender.html

I do find it very odd that for phase 2, they have gone with Gigaclear which is a more expensive fibre to the premise solution which one rural village reject.

http://www.inkpen-village.co.uk/Inkpen%20SFB%2025-2-14.pdf

The rural village that I live in are just taking whatever the overall project decides is best.


Posted by: gel Sep 11 2015, 07:11 PM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 8 2015, 11:15 AM) *
Does BT have a monopoly any more?
The copper network is "unbundled" i.e. it is open to use by other suppliers.
Admittedly the maintenance is mainly provided by Openreach who are a subsidiary of BT.
The Virgin fibre network was provided and is maintained by a another concern.

Yes it still has no competition in many exchanges, classed as Market 1.
Where there are competitors, exchanges are referred to as LLU, and surprise, surprise charges come down.

So for many in rural areas around Newbury, at least currently you have no competitor offer, high(er) prices and poor speeds;
I get just over 3 megs down 448up.

See your exchange's classification here:
http://usertools.plus.net/exchanges/
blink.gif

Posted by: Berkshirelad Sep 12 2015, 09:25 AM

QUOTE (gel @ Sep 11 2015, 08:11 PM) *
448up.


Are you missing a decimal point there....

Posted by: Druidor Sep 16 2016, 09:00 PM

Well I am in Stockcross and only get 1meg dsl.

Thanks to bt cutting my line and then reconnecting to a different cabinet I cannot get fibre wowwhich nun likeneighbours who get 30meg

Being stone walled by BT as to when this farce will be rectified.

Gigaclear still not coming up on their site for connectability as it would be a god send for home and work tasks for me.

Posted by: user23 Sep 16 2016, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (Druidor @ Sep 16 2016, 10:00 PM) *
Well I am in Stockcross and only get 1meg dsl.

Thanks to bt cutting my line and then reconnecting to a different cabinet I cannot get fibre wowwhich nun likeneighbours who get 30meg

Being stone walled by BT as to when this farce will be rectified.

Gigaclear still not coming up on their site for connectability as it would be a god send for home and work tasks for me.
I'd probably start with a new keyboard before you worry about your line speed. wink.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine Sep 16 2016, 10:55 PM

QUOTE (user23 @ Sep 16 2016, 10:04 PM) *
I'd probably start with a new keyboard before you worry about your line speed. wink.gif

Is it any wonder we don't get new peeps posting?

Posted by: On the edge Sep 17 2016, 06:14 AM

QUOTE (Druidor @ Sep 16 2016, 10:00 PM) *
Well I am in Stockcross and only get 1meg dsl.

Thanks to bt cutting my line and then reconnecting to a different cabinet I cannot get fibre wowwhich nun likeneighbours who get 30meg

Being stone walled by BT as to when this farce will be rectified.

Gigaclear still not coming up on their site for connectability as it would be a god send for home and work tasks for me.


I can well understand your frustration. There are rather too many locations in the area where connectivity is appalling. Today, connectivity is a critical utility provision, in many ways of higher priority than say than electricity or gas. Trying to challenge the oligopoly providers on your own is almost impossible. However, this sort of thing is exactly what Parish Councils are for. Your neighbours doubtless have similar issues and together pressures can be applied as a community. So, I'd suggest Stockcross Parish Council may be a good place to start.

Posted by: newres Sep 17 2016, 06:57 AM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 17 2016, 07:14 AM) *
I can well understand your frustration. There are rather too many locations in the area where connectivity is appalling. Today, connectivity is a critical utility provision, in many ways of higher priority than say than electricity or gas. Trying to challenge the oligopoly providers on your own is almost impossible. However, this sort of thing is exactly what Parish Councils are for. Your neighbours doubtless have similar issues and together pressures can be applied as a community. So, I'd suggest Stockcross Parish Council may be a good place to start.

You won't get much connectivity without electricity. laugh.gif

Posted by: user23 Sep 17 2016, 03:52 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Sep 17 2016, 07:57 AM) *
You won't get much connectivity without electricity. laugh.gif
Yes, putting it above power as a priority seems a little strange.

Posted by: gel Sep 17 2016, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 16 2016, 11:55 PM) *
Is it any wonder we don't get new peeps posting?

Yes, but they need to use the Queen's English, and not use a phone to post.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Sep 17 2016, 06:31 PM

QUOTE (gel @ Sep 17 2016, 06:22 PM) *
Yes, but they need to use the Queen's English, and not use a phone to post.

Why? Who made u the boss.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Sep 17 2016, 06:33 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Sep 17 2016, 07:57 AM) *
You won't get much connectivity without electricity. laugh.gif

Yeah, won't be able to get on foolbook like.

Posted by: On the edge Sep 17 2016, 06:43 PM

QUOTE (user23 @ Sep 17 2016, 04:52 PM) *
Yes, putting it above power as a priority seems a little strange.


Sigh, haven't you old lags ever heard of batteries or solar panels?


Posted by: On the edge Sep 17 2016, 06:50 PM

QUOTE (gel @ Sep 17 2016, 06:22 PM) *
Yes, but they need to use the Queen's English, and not use a phone to post.


Can't see either mentioned in the rules; could you post a link, my copy must be out of date. laugh.gif

Posted by: On the edge Sep 17 2016, 06:53 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Sep 17 2016, 07:57 AM) *
You won't get much connectivity without electricity. laugh.gif


Might be worth you avoiding hospitals when power outages are likely! tongue.gif

Posted by: user23 Sep 18 2016, 03:43 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 17 2016, 07:43 PM) *
Sigh, haven't you old lags ever heard of batteries or solar panels?
There aren't many household routers that run off batteries or solar panels.

Posted by: Turin Machine Sep 18 2016, 04:00 PM

Hey man, like you gotta get green man! Like it's the new way man. Its like, the environment man. Anyway, gotta go there's like a plant in the garden I really gotta try!

Posted by: On the edge Sep 18 2016, 05:59 PM

QUOTE (user23 @ Sep 18 2016, 04:43 PM) *
There aren't many household routers that run off batteries or solar panels.


Err, but rather a lot have at least one car (equipped with a charging socket) on the drive! It's now 2016 not 1986; age creeps up on us all. cool.gif

Posted by: user23 Sep 18 2016, 07:12 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 18 2016, 06:59 PM) *
Err, but rather a lot have at least one car (equipped with a charging socket) on the drive! It's now 2016 not 1986; age creeps up on us all. cool.gif
How many household routers would run off a car "cigarette lighter" socket?

Posted by: Simon Kirby Sep 18 2016, 07:44 PM

QUOTE (user23 @ Sep 18 2016, 08:12 PM) *
How many household routers would run off a car "cigarette lighter" socket?

Both my broadband modem and wifi router are 12V electronics and would run perfectly happily off a car battery or solar-charged 12V leisure battery, although you'd typically have a 240V inverter.

Posted by: JeffG Sep 18 2016, 07:46 PM

Deleted while I go and inspect my router.

Posted by: On the edge Sep 18 2016, 09:53 PM

QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 18 2016, 08:46 PM) *
Deleted while I go and inspect my router.


The issue isn't about powering up routers, more about ample and adequate broadband connectivity which is a different issue.

Like it or not, it's almost impossible to run a business of any worth without being on line with adequate connectivity, even third world countries recognise that. Similarly, it is becoming increasingly more difficult to conduct individual lifestyles without adequate access. Not only for entertainment, but for education, health and government services too. Yes, there is still a sizeable minority without, but that is fast reducing.

Low voltage power is likely to become far more common. Most electronic appliances these days are manufactured to operate at low voltage. Transformers are fitted to suit individual nation state electricity distribution voltages. Solar panels and micro wind turbines etc, generally output at the same low voltage. So, taking out the transformer, reduces transformer loss and enables direct use (even via battery) of home produced off grid electricity.

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