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post Oct 2 2013, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (Claude @ Oct 2 2013, 03:56 PM) *
I wonder what the price differential is between Shell Tothill and Shell Speen. Does anyone have access to the various petrol price comparison websites?


Here is the latest from the comparison site, but I notice the Speen one is a little out of date. I have included the Super Unleaded for Motormad. The higher octane fuel is essential for higher compression engines.

129.9p Tesco Newbury Extra

Pinchington Lane, Greenham, Newbury, RG14 7HU

Tesco, last updated on 30 September


129.9p Sainsburys Newbury

Kings Road, Newbury, RG14 5RB

Sainsburys, last updated on 30 September


130.9p Swanbridge Sf Connect

London Road, Newbury, RG14 2BS

BP, last updated on 30 September


131.9p Rss Falkland

Andover Road, Wash Common, Newbury, RG14 6NT

Esso, last updated on 30 September


134.9p Shell Newbury

Bath Road, Speen, Newbury, RG14 1QT

Shell, last updated on 29 September

Cheapest stations within 5 miles of Swindon for Unleaded

129.9p Sainsburys Stratton

Oxford Road, Stratton St Margaret, Swindon, SN3 4EW

Sainsburys, last updated on 30 September


129.9p Tesco Swindon Extra

Ocotal Way, Swindon, SN1 2EH

Tesco, last updated on 30 September


131.9p Kingshill Otr Service Station

Kingshill Road, Swindon, SN1 4NG

Esso, last updated on 25 September


132.9p Dorcan Way Service Station

Dorcan Way, Swindon, SN3 3RA

Esso, last updated on 26 September


132.9p Mrh Fleming Way

Fleming Way, Swindon, SN1 2NG

Texaco, last updated on 30 September

Cheapest stations within 5 miles of Newbury for Super Unleaded

134.9p Tesco Newbury Extra

Pinchington Lane, Greenham, Newbury, RG14 7HU

Tesco, last updated on 30 September


134.9p Sainsburys Newbury

Kings Road, Newbury, RG14 5RB

Sainsburys, last updated on 29 September


138.9p Swanbridge Sf Connect

London Road, Newbury, RG14 2BS

BP, last updated on 30 September


142.9p Shell Newbury

Bath Road, Speen, Newbury, RG14 1QT

Shell, last updated on 29 September


146.9p A34 Shell Tothill Service Area

Newbury Bypass, Newbury, RG20 9BX

Shell, last updated on 25 September

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post Oct 2 2013, 04:27 PM
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I drove through Newbury and nearly lost control of the car as I passed the Shell garage in Speen! I filled up at my local garage before setting off at 140.9p per litre unleaded and rather wished I hadn't!! I could have saved myself some money angry.gif
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post Oct 2 2013, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Oct 2 2013, 04:48 PM) *
Claude verified it?

Basically any high performance engine will benefit from higher octane fuel.
TFSI engines (google how they work) especially so. You can get some annoying problems if you use 95RON constantly.

Like I said "(That is, someone in a normal car and not an MM super-car!) " blink.gif
Would anyone in say a Ford Fiesta (a normal one as most are without direct injection) notice?
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post Oct 2 2013, 06:08 PM
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Before I left Tesco, I wrote to the CEO and was threatened with disciplinary action. Hopefully Tesco will now keep prices at the same level as other local towns that have an ASDA. There is a huge investigation needed into price manipulation from TESCO, Sainsbury's and to a lesser extent Morrisons.
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post Oct 2 2013, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 2 2013, 07:08 PM) *
Before I left Tesco, I wrote to the CEO and was threatened with disciplinary action. Hopefully Tesco will now keep prices at the same level as other local towns that have an ASDA. There is a huge investigation needed into price manipulation from TESCO, Sainsbury's and to a lesser extent Morrisons.

what manipulation?

Sainsbury's dropped their prices & three days later Tesco matched them.
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post Oct 2 2013, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 2 2013, 07:35 PM) *
what manipulation?

Sainsbury's dropped their prices & three days later Tesco matched them.
I wonder if there should be an investigation into local house prices too?

They seem a lot more than some other areas.
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post Oct 2 2013, 09:22 PM
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Richard, can you not find out why we supermarkets price things differently in different areas? That is to say, why are they lower in similarly sized towns else where? What is the driver, or threshold that effects the price?
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post Oct 3 2013, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 2 2013, 07:00 PM) *
Like I said "(That is, someone in a normal car and not an MM super-car!) " blink.gif
Would anyone in say a Ford Fiesta (a normal one as most are without direct injection) notice?

The increased octane rating means the fuel can be used in a higher compression engine or with a high pressure turbo. The higher octane fuel does not 'self ignite' before the sparkplug fires - if it did detonate before the spark then it causes a knocking noise, excessive temperature and, normally, damage to the engine. Most engines in the UK are designed to work with a *minimum* octane rating of 95. Those engines will not see any benefit by using a higher octane rating. Engines designed to use a minimum of 98 will suffer either a damaged engine or a loss of performance if they use 95 octane. Some petrol companies try and convince you to buy the more expensive fuels by adding extra detergents but these are generally of very little benefit.

In summary - would anyone in a normal Ford Fiesta notice a difference(?) - no.
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post Oct 3 2013, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 2 2013, 08:00 PM) *
I wonder if there should be an investigation into local house prices too?

They seem a lot more than some other areas.

Local house prices are governed by completely different criteria to that of petrol prices.
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post Oct 3 2013, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 2 2013, 07:00 PM) *
Like I said "(That is, someone in a normal car and not an MM super-car!) " blink.gif
Would anyone in say a Ford Fiesta (a normal one as most are without direct injection) notice?


Generally no but it can help clean things within the fuel system. You would need to run through a few tanks to see if you notice anything.
Mine is not a super MM car, it's a normal Golf GTI.


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post Oct 3 2013, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 3 2013, 09:45 AM) *
Local house prices are governed by completely different criteria to that of petrol prices.
How is the local price of petrol governed?
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post Oct 3 2013, 04:42 PM
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post Oct 3 2013, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 3 2013, 05:36 PM) *
How is the local price of petrol governed?

I think that is what we are trying to establish on here isn't it?
At the moment there seems no reason why it should be more expensive in Newbury apart from the fact that we are all awash with cash! tongue.gif
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post Oct 3 2013, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 3 2013, 06:04 PM) *
I think that is what we are trying to establish on here isn't it?
Then how can you say they're different factors if you're not sure what one set is?
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post Oct 3 2013, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 3 2013, 06:51 PM) *
Then how can you say they're different factors if you're not sure what one set is?

The principles of buying and selling a house is similar to petrol, but I'd like to know how it works with petrol.

Do Tesco Newbury every morning get out their binoculars and see what Sainsury's are selling for, or is there some kind of lower sales threshold that has to be reached before they drop prices. If so, how does that compare to Swindon, for example.
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post Oct 3 2013, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 3 2013, 07:08 PM) *
The principles of buying and selling a house is similar to petrol, but I'd like to know how it works with petrol.

Do Tesco Newbury every morning get out their binoculars and see what Sainsury's are selling for, or is there some kind of lower sales threshold that has to be reached before they drop prices. If so, how does that compare to Swindon, for example.
When you put your house on the market you see what other similar houses are selling for locally. Things like tax, relative wealth of the local population, where it's being sold and desirability of the larger area to live in all affect the price. House prices can go up and down depending on the market, but generally they go up.

I reckon it's the same for petrol.
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 3 2013, 07:27 PM) *
When you put your house on the market you see what other similar houses are selling for locally. Things like tax, relative wealth of the local population, where it's being sold and desirability of the larger area to live in all affect the price. House prices can go up and down depending on the market, but generally they go up.

I reckon it's the same for petrol.

I know that, but I'm interested in what the actually figures are. What makes the price drop on a forecourt and how have they decided what the wealth of Newbury is, where's the borders? Presumably they have a sales figure to hit, whether in value or units.
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post Oct 3 2013, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 3 2013, 07:36 PM) *
I now that, I'm interested in what the actually figures are. What makes the price drop on a forecourt and how have they decided what the wealth of Newbury is, where's the borders? Presumably they have a sales figure to hit, whether in value or units.

I think you have a point. It's rather odd that the prices change, in effect, within moments equilibrium is restored.


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post Oct 3 2013, 06:54 PM
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For fun. I wonder if petrol pump prices are roughly in this order?

UK house prices April to June 2013

Windsor and Maidenhead Average house price £444,558
Detached £775,787
Semi-detached £382,174
Terrace £349,516
Flat £278,245
Annual change in house price -3.3%
Quarterly change -0.3%
Total number of sales: 459


Winchester Average house price £388,295
Detached £546,994
Semi-detached £351,597
Terrace £321,127
Flat £203,940
Annual change in house price +5.9%
Quarterly change +3.7%
Total number of sales: 411


South Oxfordshire Average house price £381,529
Detached £609,713
Semi-detached £310,172
Terrace £275,487
Flat £201,650
Annual change in house price +6.6%
Quarterly change +8.3%
Total number of sales: 482


West Berkshire Average house price £296,587
Detached £450,481
Semi-detached £266,098
Terrace £225,580
Flat £172,502
Annual change in house price -0.6%
Quarterly change -4.3%
Total number of sales: 592


Test Valley Average house price £281,243
Detached £422,293
Semi-detached £234,136
Terrace £195,085
Flat £134,855
Annual change in house price -0.9%
Quarterly change +1.1%
Total number of sales: 392


Basingstoke and Deane Average house price £258,528
Detached £411,902
Semi-detached £239,338
Terrace £189,033
Flat £137,849
Annual change in house price -0.3%
Quarterly change +7.2%
Total number of sales: 646


Reading Average house price £226,790
Detached £419,547
Semi-detached £276,894
Terrace £202,866
Flat £168,225
Annual change in house price -5.5%
Quarterly change -1.6%
Total number of sales: 612


Swindon - Average house price £168,824
Detached £257,796
Semi-detached £171,637
Terrace £134,772
Flat £102,508
Annual change in house price +0.7%
Quarterly change +0.8%
Total number of sales: 739
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post Oct 4 2013, 05:07 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 3 2013, 06:51 PM) *
Then how can you say they're different factors if you're not sure what one set is?

I'm sure, but it seems many on here aren't.
Surely you can see that the price of petrol is governed by many different factors to that of houses even if you are unsure why petrol should be more round here.
Take Andy's prices above. I was in Oxford last week and the price of fuel was less than Newbury.
Doesn't work does it?
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