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post Jun 30 2018, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jun 29 2018, 03:44 PM) *
Personally I prefer French wine...Cote Du Walsall & Pays de Kidderminster? No thanks...



Which implies you don't consider the quality, simply from where it doth ferment.
That's a great example of doing us down.


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post Jun 30 2018, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 29 2018, 08:01 PM) *
No its not. If you feel that strongly about it and have spare rooms, you could easily help as it appears dannyboy has done.

Yes it is because I wouldnít want any stranger in my home either; being an immigrant isnít the issue. Having said that, Iím not sure open boarders are a good idea. Road to **** paved with good intentions, etc.
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post Jun 30 2018, 02:34 AM
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Amused by this: The Trouble With Identity Politics.
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post Jun 30 2018, 05:23 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 30 2018, 03:33 AM) *
Yes it is because I wouldnít want any stranger in my home either; being an immigrant isnít the issue. Having said that, Iím not sure open boarders are a good idea. Road to **** paved with good intentions, etc.

And I donít think completely open borders are either. But then the UK has never had that and when I go to France I have to show my passport.
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post Jun 30 2018, 05:55 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 30 2018, 03:33 AM) *
Yes it is because I wouldnít want any stranger in my home either; being an immigrant isnít the issue. Having said that, Iím not sure open boarders are a good idea. Road to **** paved with good intentions, etc.


Quite so, even if you are someone who likes casual visitors and invite them in, you don't leave the front door unlocked!


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post Jun 30 2018, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 29 2018, 07:59 PM) *
Good for you...How did that come about?



We were asked if we'd house the lad after he was beaten up in Reading on more than one occasion. Social services thought Newbury would be better for him.
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post Jun 30 2018, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 30 2018, 01:55 AM) *
Which implies you don't consider the quality, simply from where it doth ferment.
That's a great example of doing us down.



Have you tasted English wine?
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post Jun 30 2018, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jun 30 2018, 03:54 PM) *
Have you tasted English wine?

Quite. Won many awards recently and great vine weather at the moment. An upside to global warming... For once...
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post Jun 30 2018, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jun 30 2018, 03:53 PM) *
We were asked if we'd house the lad after he was beaten up in Reading on more than one occasion. Social services thought Newbury would be better for him.

👍 Actions speak louder than words. Applause sir. Courage of your convictions. Others should take note.
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post Jul 1 2018, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 30 2018, 04:14 PM) *
👍 Actions speak louder than words. Applause sir. Courage of your convictions. Others should take note.

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post Jul 1 2018, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jul 1 2018, 12:07 PM) *
Prat.

Eh! huh.gif
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post Jul 1 2018, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 1 2018, 12:47 PM) *
Eh! huh.gif

You donít think itís a prattish argument to say if you havenít personally taken in a refugee your opinion isnít valid?
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post Jul 1 2018, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jul 1 2018, 01:18 PM) *
You donít think itís a prattish argument to say if you havenít personally taken in a refugee your opinion isnít valid?

No. It shows some care and walk the walk and others like to pretend they care.😂You remind me of Lily Allen.
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post Jul 1 2018, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jul 1 2018, 01:18 PM) *
You donít think itís a prattish argument to say if you havenít personally taken in a refugee your opinion isnít valid?

Where are the refugees supposed to live? Detention centre? Hotel? Or perhaps you think they should be put at the top of the housing lists....If people that want mass immigration volunteered spare rooms I'd have more sympathy for these opinions. NIMBY.
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post Jul 5 2018, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 1 2018, 04:58 PM) *
Where are the refugees supposed to live? Detention centre? Hotel? Or perhaps you think they should be put at the top of the housing lists....If people that want mass immigration volunteered spare rooms I'd have more sympathy for these opinions. NIMBY.


Interesting point; but it's a departure from the traditional high Tory view of things. Dear old Norman Tebbitt got into to trouble for enunciating it in plain language. When he was out of work, Tebbitt senior got on his bike and looked for it. Good job his travels didn't bring him to this neck of the woods - response would have been 'unless someone puts you up, p1ss off back up North'!


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post Jul 5 2018, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 1 2018, 04:58 PM) *
Where are the refugees supposed to live? Detention centre? Hotel? Or perhaps you think they should be put at the top of the housing lists....If people that want mass immigration volunteered spare rooms I'd have more sympathy for these opinions. NIMBY.

Maybe those people didn't want to go and bomb the cr4p out them in the first place leaving them in need of a place to go!
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post Jul 5 2018, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jul 5 2018, 11:17 AM) *
Maybe those people didn't want to go and bomb the cr4p out them in the first place leaving them in need of a place to go!


Perhaps I'm getting old, but I seem to remember when we had hordes of young men from a poor foreign country making a short sea crossing, notionally to work on our motorways etc.etc.etc. All quite legit and legal back then. Seem to remember some of them wanted to and actually did bomb the cr4p out of us. Lest we forget.


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post Jul 5 2018, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jul 5 2018, 11:17 AM) *
Maybe those people didn't want to go and bomb the cr4p out them in the first place leaving them in need of a place to go!

You are talking about refugees. Thats a whole different kettle of fish. Most of the migrants are economic and not from war torn countries. But if they are young and brown or black a lot or people "choose" to see them as refugees. And it doesn't answer my question. Where are they supposed to live if the people that want this type of immigration dont actually want to help with accomodation. Perhaps we should have a "voluntary" income tax so that those that want to help can?
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post Jul 5 2018, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 5 2018, 08:03 PM) *
You are talking about refugees. Thats a whole different kettle of fish. Most of the migrants are economic and not from war torn countries. But if they are young and brown or black a lot or people "choose" to see them as refugees. And it doesn't answer my question. Where are they supposed to live if the people that want this type of immigration dont actually want to help with accomodation. Perhaps we should have a "voluntary" income tax so that those that want to help can?



It doesn't matter what people 'choose' to see them as - the Govt is pretty strict & most immigrants are sent back. The lad we gave a roof to, once he passed his '18th' Birthday was on the first plane back to Kabul.

If a person can prove they will be in danger if sent back, they are granted refugee status. Danger is not simply living in a war torn country.
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