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post Jan 31 2018, 04:00 PM
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F1 has announced no more young ladies on the grid, hmm. Three questions:

Did anyone ask the ladies involved for their views?
Who now gets to hold the umbrella?
Is this whole thing now getting slightly out of control?
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post Jan 31 2018, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 31 2018, 04:00 PM) *
F1 has announced no more young ladies on the grid, hmm. Three questions:

Did anyone ask the ladies involved for their views?
Who now gets to hold the umbrella?
Is this whole thing now getting slightly out of control?


Personally I think only girls should be allowed to drive in F1 and then maybe we could have young men in lycra parading around the pits.
Seriously though, as you point out what are the girls who are presently employed in this field expected to do? Tescos here we come.


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post Jan 31 2018, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 31 2018, 04:21 PM) *
Personally I think only girls should be allowed to drive in F1 and then maybe we could have young men in lycra parading around the pits.
Seriously though, as you point out what are the girls who are presently employed in this field expected to do? Tescos here we come.

Strikes me that some ugly libtard munters despise pretty girls who can earn money with looks.

No one has asked the girls.

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post Jan 31 2018, 05:57 PM
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As a huge F1 fan i have mixed views.
When the ladies are dressed respectfully (as in the British GP a few years ago in the Santander colours - full skirts and tops, very beautiful and feminine), it adds both a touch of class and glamour to the show. The ladies themselves seemed to like it.
However at the vast majority of GP's now they are basically Lycra clad, designed to show as many "bits" as possible, the ladies are clearly cold and don't like them (especially in the back breaking heels they have to wear).
Overall then on balance I have to agree with the decision to move forward and drop them from the grid. Unfortunately the teams always have plenty of scantily clad girls in their pits, so there is still some employment if needed.
Totally agree with having more ladies in the cars, but here only proven talent speaks (i.e. both driving ability AND sponsorship money)
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post Jan 31 2018, 06:12 PM
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I think the issue is that many are unhappy with the way we currently objectify people and how our society values looks over talent sometimes.

The issue here, and it's the same with the darts, the grid girls offer no value. They don't sell anything, they're not really doing a job that is needed and ultimately even if it's only a minority who object, It's a great excuse to save a few quid.
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post Jan 31 2018, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 31 2018, 04:21 PM) *
Personally I think only girls should be allowed to drive in F1 and then maybe we could have young men in lycra parading around the pits.
Seriously though, as you point out what are the girls who are presently employed in this field expected to do? Tescos here we come.

Doing a job that's not needed, not required and offers no value, because you happen to be a (good looking) woman, is as bad as being on benefits.
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post Jan 31 2018, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 31 2018, 06:18 PM) *
Doing a job that's not needed, not required and offers no value, because you happen to be a (good looking) woman, is as bad as being on benefits.

But it's a job, and I'll bet no one asked the girls if they minded losing it.
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post Jan 31 2018, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 31 2018, 06:27 PM) *
But it's a job, and I'll bet no one asked the girls if they minded losing it.

But at the end of the day it gives the snowflakes and some hairy warted woman in a tweed suit and sensible shoes the feeling they're doing something for 'the sisterhood'. Lots of jobs don't 'need' to be done, don't need a greeter at the car dealership, don't need someone to make me a skinny latte, don't need need people from charities ringing me up, but they do. As you say, "its a job". Sadly.


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post Jan 31 2018, 07:55 PM
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Its the eternal question, Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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post Feb 1 2018, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 31 2018, 06:27 PM) *
But it's a job, and I'll bet no one asked the girls if they minded losing it.

Of course not, because they know what the answer would be. But I doubt it's a job, It's probably a gig through an agency and not so much lost as discontinued. But my point is that it is not a job that offers any value. Nothing changes if they are not there.
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post Feb 1 2018, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jan 31 2018, 06:39 PM) *
But at the end of the day it gives the snowflakes and some hairy warted woman in a tweed suit and sensible shoes the feeling they're doing something for 'the sisterhood'. Lots of jobs don't 'need' to be done, don't need a greeter at the car dealership, don't need someone to make me a skinny latte, don't need need people from charities ringing me up, but they do. As you say, "its a job". Sadly.

I have never seen a greeter in a car dealership, receptionist maybe. Some mobile and not deskbound who organise the first part of your experience and make sure you're getting the right help. The people from charities are generating revenue for said charity and presumably commission for the company that pays them. The grid girls do nothing to help the sport, they are there purely to look pretty. They don't necessarily need to be completely removed on my opinion but the role needs to be changed to make F1 bosses appreciate the value
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post Feb 1 2018, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jan 31 2018, 08:31 PM) *
S n o w f l a k e

S o y B o y

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How many years have you got left on this planet old man? Not many so I'll try and ignore you for the next couple of years till you're gone.
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post Feb 1 2018, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Feb 1 2018, 07:30 AM) *
How many years have you got left on this planet old man? Not many so I'll try and ignore you for the next couple of years till you're gone.

None of us know how many years we have left soy boy. Accidents happen all the time.

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Just a quick question. Some of the ladies at my place of work dress very sexily. Should I tell them to tone it down a bit as they put me off my work sometimes? Perhaps they should wear a veil and walk behind me?
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post Feb 1 2018, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 1 2018, 09:49 AM) *
Just a quick question. Some of the ladies at my place of work dress very sexily. Should I tell them to tone it down a bit as they put me off my work sometimes?

Nah, tell em how cracking they look, tell em what you'd like to do with them and give em a quick squeeze of the @rse! laugh.gif

(OOer! Just noticed there is a moderator on at the moment. Now I'm for it!! ohmy.gif)
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post Feb 1 2018, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 1 2018, 09:43 AM) *
Nah, tell em how cracking they look, tell em what you'd like to do with them and give em a quick squeeze of the @rse! laugh.gif

(OOer! Just noticed there is a moderator on at the moment. Now I'm for it!! ohmy.gif)


Are you not be stereotypical in your assumption that TDH is, firstly hetrosexual, secondly in a company position that allows him to treat his staff as mere chattels, and probably not over 14 years of age. smile.gif

I have witnessed managers who thought they could take advantage of their position and they all ended up going one way on the career ladder. Let girls wear what they like and more importantly do what they like without the libtard diktat.


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post Feb 1 2018, 12:11 PM
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If the 'grid girls' are not doing any sort of job, why are they dressed in the sponsors colours?

They ensure that the brand gets maximum coverage whilst the grid area is the focus of attention.
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post Feb 1 2018, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Feb 1 2018, 12:11 PM) *
If the 'grid girls' are not doing any sort of job, why are they dressed in the sponsors colours?

They ensure that the brand gets maximum coverage whilst the grid area is the focus of attention.

My point exactly, they are hired by and payed by the sponsors. Many of them have a career in modelling and corporate entertainment, its a proper job earning proper money. I bet they're real delighted to get hit with the feminism hammer.
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post Feb 1 2018, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 1 2018, 12:44 PM) *
My point exactly, they are hired by and payed by the sponsors. Many of them have a career in modelling and corporate entertainment, its a proper job earning proper money. I bet they're real delighted to get hit with the feminism hammer.


There is very little evidence that those who push the feminist agenda actually have their "sister's" best interests at heart. Like most pressure group the tail definitely wags the dog.


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post Feb 1 2018, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE (DereckT @ Jan 31 2018, 05:57 PM) *
As a huge F1 fan i have mixed views.
When the ladies are dressed respectfully (as in the British GP a few years ago in the Santander colours - full skirts and tops, very beautiful and feminine), it adds both a touch of class and glamour to the show. The ladies themselves seemed to like it.
However at the vast majority of GP's now they are basically Lycra clad, designed to show as many "bits" as possible, the ladies are clearly cold and don't like them (especially in the back breaking heels they have to wear).
Overall then on balance I have to agree with the decision to move forward and drop them from the grid. Unfortunately the teams always have plenty of scantily clad girls in their pits, so there is still some employment if needed.
Totally agree with having more ladies in the cars, but here only proven talent speaks (i.e. both driving ability AND sponsorship money)
Dereck

Good points well made. Thanks.
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post Feb 9 2018, 07:29 PM
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It seems a number of sports were just waiting for darts to make the first move....

Boxing is under pressure to get rid of ring girls...(Eddie Hearn says no but if there's money saying "Get rid" they'll go..) There will be more sports to follow. Anything involving a bunch of pretty girls being paid to be objectified by 'lecherous men' (and some laydees too no doubt) will go (or have to justify themselves to the Feminazi Brigade) ...but what's so lecherous about just appreciating a good looking girl anyway?

A number of sports clubs have been asked to ban their cheerleader squads (if the Dallas Cowgirls et al go then everything about that silly sport will be dead to me).

There's even talk of girl athletes being told to cover up more so that they can't be said to be bringing this objectification upon themselves.... I imagine beach volleyball only made it onto TV screens because of the outfits and flesh on display...Those swimming costumes some of the girls wear at the Olympics... do they HAVE to have costumes with such a high cut over the hip? And that naughty minx Tom Daley is as bad...

Time to invest in a shop selling burkas...
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