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newres
post Dec 11 2017, 03:40 PM
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This family with 7 children is an extreme example, but saying that I see nothing wrong with a benefits cap in long term examples.
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post Dec 11 2017, 05:38 PM
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If you cap those abusing the system there will be more to go toward's helping those truly in need. In theory.
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post Dec 11 2017, 06:45 PM
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Funnily enough I was debating this very subject with a friend today . The consensus being that those who choose to have a family should be financially viable to support their new responsibility . If at a later date they fall upon hard times then the tax payer should be prepared to help them short term . I do not know what the truth behind these ridiculously high benefits figure is but if accurate it poses the question why does anyone work ?


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post Dec 12 2017, 06:57 AM
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This is all pretty old stuff; look at the start date of the thread. Yesterday's news. I suspect what has awoken interest, is the imminent introduction of the Universal Credits scheme locally. This should satisfy the worries expressed here as even prime mover Iain Duncan-Smith and the traditionally supportive treasury believe its perhaps a little loop harsh and have been seeking to mitigate the worst effects. Most people, when giving the welfare system a little thought, thoroughly agree with making it as simple as possible and having 'a cap'. After all, that's no different from earning a wage that won't increase just because you've had an extra child. The real, and perhaps only point iof contention ought to be the amount paid and whether it is sufficient to sustain an existence. Yes, there are those who milk the system, just as there are those who seek to maximise earnings by avoiding tax in a thing called the gig economy.


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post Dec 12 2017, 09:59 AM
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Benefit scroungers are small fry in cash terms, but the simple test I apply is: would I swap existence. Usually the answers is no.
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post Dec 16 2017, 08:59 AM
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From time immemorial, just do sufficient to keep the underclass happy. Give them bread and circuses.
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post Dec 16 2017, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Dec 16 2017, 08:59 AM) *
From time immemorial, just do sufficient to keep the underclass happy. Give them bread and circuses.


Now reads lager and mobile phone . Things were so much simpler back in the day , send the proletariat off to some god forsaken country to fight a battle or two, which had the effect of gaining wealth for the state and reducing the population . All comes back to education........Or lack of it .


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post Dec 16 2017, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Dec 16 2017, 08:59 AM) *
From time immemorial, just do sufficient to keep the underclass happy. Give them bread and circuses.

Try fags an strictly come preening. Seems to work these days.


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