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andy1979uk
post Aug 8 2012, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:11 AM) *
Tarmacing the greenbelt & flouting planning regs? Funny how when someone else does it it is a crime & yet when the council stops someone 'improving' their home it is local, trumped up pen pushers thinking they are the law.....


Litter left lying around.....have you seen Victoria Park after a warm weekend?

And who hasn't had a **** in the woods?


So it's ok then ?
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:11 AM) *
Tarmacing the greenbelt & flouting planning regs? Funny how when someone else does it it is a crime & yet when the council stops someone 'improving' their home it is local, trumped up pen pushers thinking they are the law.....


Litter left lying around.....have you seen Victoria Park after a warm weekend?

And who hasn't had a **** in the woods?



The difference is that the council will come down like a ton of bricks if Joe Soap goes an inch over the line but travellers enjoy a degree of protection that we, the taxpayers, can only dream of.
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Adrian Hollister
post Aug 8 2012, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 8 2012, 10:09 AM) *
So Adrian,

You see no problem with "travellers" whatsoever?

There are good and bad with all walks of society, after all it wasn't long ago that bankers were respected and not seen as crooks.

Perhaps out efforts should be to accept that from time to time they will arrive and be supportive by offering facilities - something that is common on the canal network where people generally move around a lot and have no geographically fixed abode.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Aug 8 2012, 11:14 AM) *
So it's ok then ?

Yep, they're general "good eggs" all round!! laugh.gif
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:11 AM) *
Tarmacing the greenbelt & flouting planning regs? Funny how when someone else does it it is a crime & yet when the council stops someone 'improving' their home it is local, trumped up pen pushers thinking they are the law.....


Litter left lying around.....have you seen Victoria Park after a warm weekend?

And who hasn't had a **** in the woods?


Oh and I can honestly say I have'nt had a **** in the woods.
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Andy Capp
post Aug 8 2012, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Aug 8 2012, 09:24 AM) *
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 7 2012, 11:38 PM) *
Caravans have appeared in the middle of Stroud Green.
Admin. This post is blatant FLAME TROLLING and is known in the forum world as FLAME BAIT. Posted to do nothing but put member against member. Our resident misanthrope has kicked in already, now watch it go downhill fast.

Were you refering to me, or is this just a misquote?
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:11 AM) *
Funny how when someone else does it it is a crime & yet when the council stops someone 'improving' their home it is local, trumped up pen pushers thinking they are the law.....


There is a difference though, between someone making changes (albeit potentially illegal) to property they own, and someone damaging property they don't own (as andy1979uk has alleged).
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andy1979uk
post Aug 8 2012, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Aug 8 2012, 11:18 AM) *
There are good and bad with all walks of society, after all it wasn't long ago that bankers were respected and not seen as crooks.

Perhaps out efforts should be to accept that from time to time they will arrive and be supportive by offering facilities - something that is common on the canal network where people generally move around a lot and have no geographically fixed abode.


Am sure there are some good ones, but few and far between.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 8 2012, 11:19 AM) *
Admin. This post is blatant FLAME TROLLING and is known in the forum world as FLAME BAIT. Posted to do nothing but put member against member. Our resident misanthrope has kicked in already, now watch it go downhill fast.
Were you refering to me, or is this just a misquote?


I found that somewhat confusing. I can only assume that it was a mis-quote, as all you had done was state a fact.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (massifheed @ Aug 8 2012, 11:21 AM) *
There is a difference though, between someone making changes (albeit potentially illegal) to property they own, and someone damaging property they don't own (as andy1979uk has alleged).

I have a feeling the tarmac laying will have been done a someone's request........
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Aug 8 2012, 11:18 AM) *
The difference is that the council will come down like a ton of bricks if Joe Soap goes an inch over the line but travellers enjoy a degree of protection that we, the taxpayers, can only dream of.

Every one is treated a like in the eyes of the law. It is only 'Joe Soap' who views one part of society as beneath him.

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post Aug 8 2012, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:27 AM) *
Every one is treated a like in the eyes of the law.


I would say in theory only. It is often down to a judge's interpretation of the law that decides how people are treated.


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post Aug 8 2012, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (massifheed @ Aug 8 2012, 11:32 AM) *
I would say in theory only. It is often down to a judge's interpretation of the law that decides how people are treated.


Did you follow the Dale Farm eviction? They clearly want the law on their side when it suits them, and ignore it when it does'nt.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Aug 8 2012, 11:38 AM) *
Did you follow the Dale Farm eviction? They clearly want the law on their side when it suits them, and ignore it when it does'nt.

Like someone who takes the law into their own hands......
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:40 AM) *
Like someone who takes the law into their own hands......


This is'nt about me is it? Were discussing travellers, quite nicely so far.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Aug 8 2012, 11:43 AM) *
This is'nt about me is it? Were discussing travellers, quite nicely so far.

What makes you think that?

People generally tend to see their own actions as justified & the actions of others as taking liberties.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:52 AM
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it's ok, apparently they will be moving on soon, It turns out that some kind soul has pointed out a lovely site just off the B4494, nice green space with a pond, doesn't seem to be used much and the locals apparently are very welcolming.
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Adrian Hollister
post Aug 8 2012, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Aug 8 2012, 10:52 AM) *
it's ok, apparently they will be moving on soon, It turns out that some kind soul has pointed out a lovely site just off the B4494, nice green space with a pond, doesn't seem to be used much and the locals apparently are very welcolming.

Well done Penelope, pointless as usual. Yawn.
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Aug 8 2012, 11:57 AM) *
Well done Penelope, pointless as usual. Yawn.



I thought it was very public spirited myself.
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Adrian Hollister
post Aug 8 2012, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Aug 8 2012, 11:00 AM) *
I thought it was very public spirited myself.

Boring, pointless, again.
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