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Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 20 2019, 07:40 PM

The lefties are trying desperately to get a reaction...
#desperate

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 20 2019, 10:42 PM

And Dan Snow turns out to be yet another pseudo semi celebrity lying snowflake. Who'd a guessed it?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 21 2019, 02:22 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 20 2019, 11:42 PM) *
And Dan Snow turns out to be yet another pseudo semi celebrity lying snowflake. Who'd a guessed it?

That thread was sooo funny...😂😂

Posted by: newres May 21 2019, 07:51 AM

Bearing in mind how obvious that milkshake attack was yesterday and given the bad press Farage was getting over his financial probity, I suspect it was staged.

Posted by: newres May 21 2019, 07:52 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 20 2019, 11:42 PM) *
And Dan Snow turns out to be yet another pseudo semi celebrity lying snowflake. Who'd a guessed it?

He does look a bit stupid to say the least. No one would deliberately make themselves look a fool.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 21 2019, 06:59 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 21 2019, 08:51 AM) *
Bearing in mind how obvious that milkshake attack was yesterday and given the bad press Farage was getting over his financial probity, I suspect it was staged.

"Lefty gets egg thrown at him by rabid hard right Nazi sympathiser extremist maniac!!"

Farage gets assaulted, "I suspect it was staged".

M'lud, I rest my case.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 21 2019, 08:00 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 21 2019, 07:59 PM) *
"Lefty gets egg thrown at him by rabid hard right Nazi sympathiser extremist maniac!!"

Farage gets assaulted, "I suspect it was staged".

M'lud, I rest my case.


Wouldn't want to be working at Burger King this Sunday.... it appears that thousands of people are going to be buying milkshakes... guess the police will be busy...

Posted by: Strafin May 22 2019, 07:41 AM

Much as I find the whole thing hilarious, and also deserved, I can't really condone it. It's not the right way to make a proper stand. The likes of Farage bring it on themselves mind, and what they do impacts the lives of real people in a very negative way, and it's no more than a taste of their own medicine. If it was a left wing politician being attacked I would be all pi55y about it so I have to apply the same outrage in these recent cases.

Posted by: newres May 22 2019, 08:39 AM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 22 2019, 08:41 AM) *
Much as I find the whole thing hilarious, and also deserved, I can't really condone it. It's not the right way to make a proper stand. The likes of Farage bring it on themselves mind, and what they do impacts the lives of real people in a very negative way, and it's no more than a taste of their own medicine. If it was a left wing politician being attacked I would be all pi55y about it so I have to apply the same outrage in these recent cases.

It's hard to apply the same outrage on behalf of Yaxley Lennon though. And note that in that case the "attacker" was being harrassed by Robinson.

But look at this:

https://twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1131066941236498434

or this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wales-politics-48360602/monmouth-mp-called-a-liar-amid-rise-in-threats


Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 22 2019, 09:53 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 22 2019, 09:39 AM) *
It's hard to apply the same outrage on behalf of Yaxley Lennon though. And note that in that case the "attacker" was being harrassed by Robinson.

But look at this:

https://twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1131066941236498434

or this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wales-politics-48360602/monmouth-mp-called-a-liar-amid-rise-in-threats


Femi went to a Brexit party rally and set up outside goading people going to it. He was desperate for a reaction. It would be like Farage setting up outside a Lib Dem rally....🤣

Posted by: Strafin May 22 2019, 10:11 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 22 2019, 10:53 AM) *
Femi went to a Brexit party rally and set up outside goading people going to it. He was desperate for a reaction. It would be like Farage setting up outside a Lib Dem rally....🤣

Looks like he was just asking the same old question we all do of Brexiteers...

Can you justify Brexit or offer a real and tangeable benefit?
The answer is always just some abuse and you're a traitor for asking.



Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 22 2019, 10:57 AM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 22 2019, 11:11 AM) *
Looks like he was just asking the same old question we all do of Brexiteers...

Can you justify Brexit or offer a real and tangeable benefit?
The answer is always just some abuse and you're a traitor for asking.


1. 52 percent
2. Sovereignty

Same old answers I am afraid. Not seen anything from patronising remoaners to change my mind.

Posted by: newres May 22 2019, 11:17 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 22 2019, 11:57 AM) *
1. 52 percent
2. Sovereignty

Same old answers I am afraid. Not seen anything from patronising remoaners to change my mind.

Although you don't like parliamentary sovereignty has become clear.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 22 2019, 11:23 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 22 2019, 12:17 PM) *
Although you don't like parliamentary sovereignty has become clear.

Not when parliamentary MPS don't represent the will of the constiuency they represent. Lammy is a remainer and he represents a remain constituency. I have no issue with that.

Posted by: newres May 22 2019, 11:33 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 22 2019, 12:23 PM) *
Not when parliamentary MPS don't represent the will of the constiuency they represent. Lammy is a remainer and he represents a remain constituency. I have no issue with that.

You show a misunderstanding of parliamentary democracy

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 22 2019, 11:47 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 22 2019, 12:33 PM) *
You show a misunderstanding of parliamentary democracy

You have a misunderstanding of life.😂

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 22 2019, 11:51 AM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 22 2019, 08:41 AM) *
Much as I find the whole thing hilarious, and also deserved, I can't really condone it. It's not the right way to make a proper stand. The likes of Farage bring it on themselves mind, and what they do impacts the lives of real people in a very negative way, and it's no more than a taste of their own medicine. If it was a left wing politician being attacked I would be all pi55y about it so I have to apply the same outrage in these recent cases.

Once one sides idea of meaningful political discourse is assaulting an opposition candidate then they've already lost the argument as well as any moral high ground they might like to think they're standing on.

Posted by: Strafin May 22 2019, 01:32 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 22 2019, 11:57 AM) *
1. 52 percent
2. Sovereignty

Same old answers I am afraid. Not seen anything from patronising remoaners to change my mind.


1. Not a justification, just an opinion poll on that particular day.

2. What does that even mean?

Posted by: Turin Machine May 23 2019, 12:47 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 22 2019, 12:51 PM) *
Once one sides idea of meaningful political discourse is assaulting an opposition candidate then they've already lost the argument as well as any moral high ground they might like to think they're standing on.

Sundae bloody Sundae! 😆

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 23 2019, 02:50 PM

And this is where the sniggering mob mentality get you,

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/23/army-veteran-attacked-milkshake-outside-polling-station-wearing/

Posted by: newres May 23 2019, 03:17 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 23 2019, 03:50 PM) *
And this is where the sniggering mob mentality get you,

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/23/army-veteran-attacked-milkshake-outside-polling-station-wearing/

At least he handled it well. Have you seen the Ed Miliband footage? Nothing new

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 23 2019, 04:02 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 23 2019, 04:17 PM) *
At least he handled it well. Have you seen the Ed Miliband footage? Nothing new

Oh that's ok then.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 23 2019, 05:37 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 23 2019, 04:17 PM) *
At least he handled it well. Have you seen the Ed Miliband footage? Nothing new

Yup, egging a 42 year old labour leader is EXACTLY the same as drenching an 81 year old veteran standing outside a polling station. Moron.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 23 2019, 05:45 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 23 2019, 06:37 PM) *
Yup, egging a 42 year old labour leader is EXACTLY the same as drenching an 81 year old veteran standing outside a polling station. Moron.

Harsh? 🤔. But accurate. 😂

Posted by: newres May 23 2019, 06:05 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 23 2019, 06:37 PM) *
Yup, egging a 42 year old labour leader is EXACTLY the same as drenching an 81 year old veteran standing outside a polling station. Moron.

Itís better than stabbing and shooting an MP. But Iím enjoying your pearl clutching so do keep going.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 23 2019, 06:32 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 23 2019, 07:05 PM) *
Itís better than stabbing and shooting an MP. But Iím enjoying your pearl clutching so do keep going.

God you're sad.

Posted by: newres May 23 2019, 06:36 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 23 2019, 07:32 PM) *
God you're sad.

And crocodile tears arenít?

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 23 2019, 06:37 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 23 2019, 07:05 PM) *
Itís better than stabbing and shooting an MP. But Iím enjoying your pearl clutching so do keep going.

Wow! Who's been shot? Who's been stabbed? What have I missed? Cripes!

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 23 2019, 06:38 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 23 2019, 07:36 PM) *
And crocodile tears arenít?

Like the crocodile tears you're shedding over brexit?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 23 2019, 07:20 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 23 2019, 07:38 PM) *
Like the crocodile tears you're shedding over brexit?

Didn't know who to vote for when I got to the polling station... fortunately one parties logo was "Brexit" and they had kindly put a pointy arrow on it to show me where to put my X.

Posted by: newres May 23 2019, 08:09 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 23 2019, 08:20 PM) *
Didn't know who to vote for when I got to the polling station... fortunately one parties logo was "Brexit" and they had kindly put a pointy arrow on it to show me where to put my X.

I think it was deemed essential for their average voter. laugh.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 23 2019, 08:18 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 23 2019, 09:09 PM) *
I think it was deemed essential for their average voter. laugh.gif

Yep. We are all thick. Good job we just had to put an X and not sign our name. Still I could have voted for Change UK, who want to change... nothing... and have a bar code as a logo. 🤣

Posted by: newres May 23 2019, 10:04 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 23 2019, 09:18 PM) *
Yep. We are all thick. Good job we just had to put an X and not sign our name. Still I could have voted for Change UK, who want to change... nothing... and have a bar code as a logo. 🤣

They ought to join the LibDems now.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 23 2019, 10:11 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 23 2019, 11:04 PM) *
They ought to join the LibDems now.

Would they want them? I wouldn't...Soubry and Chukka? Career opportunist politicians whose "opinions" change to whichever the way they think the political wind is blowing... they would damage the Lib Dem brand. They thought they were going to be "big news"... all they are is useless incompetent career politicians who made the wrong call. Again.

Posted by: newres May 23 2019, 10:18 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 23 2019, 11:11 PM) *
Would they want them? I wouldn't...Soubry and Chukka? Career opportunist politicians whose "opinions" change to whichever the way they think the political wind is blowing... they would damage the Lib Dem brand. They thought they were going to be "big news"... all they are is useless incompetent career politicians who made the wrong call. Again.

Soubry isnít a career politician. If you canít get your facts right, the rest is rubbish too.

Do you know if youíve got your kuntree back yet?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 23 2019, 10:22 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 23 2019, 11:18 PM) *
Soubry isnít a career politician. If you canít get your facts right, the rest is rubbish too.

Do you know if youíve got your kuntree back yet?

Soubry loves the limelight. What is your problem? Is it beginning to dawn on you that you remainers are akin to Japan at the end of the 2nd world war? At least the Japanese had some pride. You remainers throw milkshakes at old ex paras.👏👏👏

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 12:11 AM

Interesting that change uk has a maximum donation limit of £499, so, what are they trying to hide?

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 05:03 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 01:11 AM) *
Interesting that change uk has a maximum donation limit of £499, so, what are they trying to hide?

UKIP and Brexit are the only two parties in which itís not necessary to declare who you are to donate. Did you see the abuse Femi suffered the other night as he made himself available to Brexit supporters? Farage wouldnít get off his bus.



Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 05:03 AM

Anyway, assuming May goes today and Johnson or Raab take over, Iíd say a GE is around the corner so more fun ahead.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 05:11 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 06:03 AM) *
UKIP and Brexit are the only two parties in which itís not necessary to declare who you are to donate. Did you see the abuse Femi suffered the other night as he made himself available to Brexit supporters? Farage wouldnít get off his bus.

Femi went to a Brexit rally. He was hoping to get abused. So he could play the Nazi racists card.

Oh and the Farage bus thing is #fakenews.

Jog on...

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 05:14 AM

Oh dear. Fake news. CCTV shows the old git’s mates pouring the milkshake over him.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 06:45 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHor column inchesandsome @ May 24 2019, 06:11 AM) *
Femi went to a Brexit rally. He was hoping to get abused. So he could play the Nazi racists card.

Oh and the Farage bus thing is #fakenews.

Jog on...

Femi? Waste of space, still paddling in the shallow end of the DNA pool, typical newres fanboy material. Just looking for column inches.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 06:52 AM

Oh no! The Guardian's not sneering today!

The Guardian: Disaffected voters boost Brexit party across north-west.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/24/disaffected-voters-boost-brexit-party-across-north-west.

Notice newres gets a mention, as the pantomime 'remainer dog'! 🤣

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 07:05 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 23 2019, 07:37 PM) *
Wow! Who's been shot? Who's been stabbed? What have I missed? Cripes!

Come on! Tell us, who's been shot or stabbed? Newres? Hello? Anyone in? Nope, lights are on in newres villas but no one's in. 🤣

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 07:07 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 07:52 AM) *
Oh no! The Guardian's not sneering today!

The Guardian: Disaffected voters boost Brexit party across north-west.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/24/disaffected-voters-boost-brexit-party-across-north-west.

Notice newres gets a mention, as the pantomime 'remainer dog'! 🤣

The article refers to the mill towns. Theyíve long been a hot bed for the right. The BNP used to do well there. In general itís Tory voters going over to Brexit.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 07:17 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 08:07 AM) *
The article refers to the mill towns. Theyíve long been a hot bed for the right. The BNP used to do well there. In general itís Tory voters going over to Brexit.

Ah well, that ex, what! Mill towns? Oop north? Home of the working class? Labours heartland? Shoorly not!

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 07:19 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 08:17 AM) *
Ah well, that ex, what! Mill towns? Oop north? Home of the working class? Labours heartland? Shoorly not!

Iím from up north. Born in Liverpool.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 07:20 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 08:07 AM) *
The article refers to the mill towns. Theyíve long been a hot bed for the right. The BNP used to do well there. In general itís Tory voters going over to Brexit.

Of course the Tory voters have defected. It's what happens when a weak PM fails to deliver what they were asked to do. It's a sea change. Benyon will be out at the next GE. My guess is the Lib Dems will win Newbury and the Brexit Party will be 2nd. Be interesting to see the result at the Peterborough bye election.

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 07:30 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 24 2019, 08:20 AM) *
Of course the Tory voters have defected. It's what happens when a weak PM fails to deliver what they were asked to do. It's a sea change. Benyon will be out at the next GE. My guess is the Lib Dems will win Newbury and the Brexit Party will be 2nd. Be interesting to see the result at the Peterborough bye election.

In which case anyone on the left should be grateful for Farage. Iíll bet Corbyn is.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 07:41 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 08:19 AM) *
Iím from up north. Born in Liverpool.

Oh dear, a scally,, hardly a mill town is it. First London, then Liverpool, get around much?

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 07:55 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 08:07 AM) *
The article refers to the mill towns. Theyíve long been a hot bed for the right. The BNP used to do well there. In general itís Tory voters going over to Brexit.

This might help to explain, get an adult to help with the long words.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/05/07/how-labour-lost-its-heartlands/

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 08:01 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 08:55 AM) *
This might help to explain, get an adult to help with the long words.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/05/07/how-labour-lost-its-heartlands/

I donít read rants like that. ďRemaniacĒ. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 08:11 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 09:01 AM) *
I donít read rants like that. ďRemaniacĒ. rolleyes.gif

Not enough colouring in I expect.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 24 2019, 08:17 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 09:11 AM) *
Not enough colouring in I expect.

😂Mental image of newres sitting on floor eating crayons😂

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 10:40 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 24 2019, 09:17 AM) *
😂Mental image of newres sitting on floor eating crayons😂

Gay fetish?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 11:32 AM

Well poor old Theresa....🤣

I did find this tweet hilarious

https://mobile.twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1131857746410778624

Nothing to do with Farage! IT was JC..😂😂😂

Posted by: Turin Machine May 24 2019, 11:41 AM

When you can't even beat one of the worst PM's in history, twice, and think it's something to be proud of you know the labour party's up **** creek.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 24 2019, 11:46 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 06:14 AM) *
Oh dear. Fake news. CCTV shows the old gitís mates pouring the milkshake over him.

Be nice to see some / any evidence of this?

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 12:40 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 24 2019, 12:41 PM) *
When you can't even beat one of the worst PM's in history, twice, and think it's something to be proud of you know the labour party's up **** creek.

Who are you referring to here?

Posted by: SirWilliam May 24 2019, 12:57 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 01:40 PM) *
Who are you referring to here?


Obviously mother t but could apply to any of them at any time since the early part of the 18th century. If industry was run on similar tracks we would still be throwing stones at mammoths.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 02:40 PM

"British Prime Minister Theresa May use Friday announce say she dey resign her post on June 7 sake of di BREXIT wahala

Dis dey come as she don receive pressure to leave office sake of her deals to cari UK comot from European Union alias Brexit.

Boris Johnson wan replace Theresa May
Tori be say na three times her BREXIT bill don fail before parliament, wey mean say she don fail.

Theresa May wey be di second UK Prime Minister afta Margaret Thatcher cry tears wen she resign as British Prime Minister"

😂

Posted by: Turin Machine May 24 2019, 02:57 PM

And the front runner is? Bo Jo. Now we're in trouble.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 03:25 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 24 2019, 03:57 PM) *
And the front runner is? Bo Jo. Now we're in trouble.


Borris Johnson PM
Jacob Rees Mogg Home Secretary
Nigel Farage Foreign Secretary
No Brexit negotiator as we just leave.

😂

Newres may emigrate.🤣🤣🤣😋

Posted by: James_Trinder May 24 2019, 04:03 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 24 2019, 04:25 PM) *
Borris Johnson PM
Jacob Rees Mogg Home Secretary
Nigel Farage Foreign Secretary



Send in the clowns, as they say.

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 04:25 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 24 2019, 05:03 PM) *
Send in the clowns, as they say.

Exactly. Nothing's going to change without an election. If Bojo tries a no deal the Remainers in the Tory party will back a motion of no confidence. If Brexit stand, the Tories will be annihilated. If they don't they'll still lose but not as heavily.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 04:50 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 05:25 PM) *
Exactly. Nothing's going to change without an election. If Bojo tries a no deal the Remainers in the Tory party will back a motion of no confidence. If Brexit stand, the Tories will be annihilated. If they don't they'll still lose but not as heavily.

Bearing in mind Farage is going to get mid 30s in percentage on one issue and if Johnson joins forces with him then I can only see one outcome. And it ain't the one you think. Do you have a beard by the way? Just guessing you do...😂

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 04:53 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 06:14 AM) *
Oh dear. Fake news. CCTV shows the old gitís mates pouring the milkshake over him.

Yobbo, got shopped, by his mum! Being charged with common assault. 🤣

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 05:01 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 05:53 PM) *
Yobbo, got shopped, by his mum! Being charged with common assault. 🤣

And all the remainers Twitter accounts saying it was fake are getting shutdown. #karma

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 05:10 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 24 2019, 05:50 PM) *
Bearing in mind Farage is going to get mid 30s in percentage on one issue and if Johnson joins forces with him then I can only see one outcome. And it ain't the one you think. Do you have a beard by the way? Just guessing you do...😂

Sunday night is going to be interesting, not just us but see how everyone else is going, will there be a big influx of Eurosceptic MEP's from all corners?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 05:18 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 06:10 PM) *
Sunday night is going to be interesting, not just us but see how everyone else is going, will there be a big influx of Eurosceptic MEP's from all corners?

Deffo. And a lot of milkshakes are being bought... #milkysunday
You reap what you sow.

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 05:19 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 24 2019, 06:18 PM) *
Deffo. And a lot of milkshakes are being bought... #milkysunday
You reap what you sow.

Well exactly.

Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 05:53 PM) *
Yobbo, got shopped, by his mum! Being charged with common assault. 🤣

Got a link?

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 05:33 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 06:22 PM) *
Got a link?

Same one you provided.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 06:09 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 06:33 PM) *
Same one you provided.

😂😂😂😂

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 06:41 PM

Good last scene on this OFOC production...
🤣🤣🤣


https://mobile.twitter.com/OFOCBrexit/status/1131966824265015296



Posted by: newres May 24 2019, 06:43 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 06:33 PM) *
Same one you provided.

So it was faked then. Do you feel a bit silly after your rant on here?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 06:51 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 07:43 PM) *
So it was faked then. Do you feel a bit silly after your rant on here?

Waits for evidence.... tumbleweed....

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 06:54 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2019, 07:43 PM) *
So it was faked then. Do you feel a bit silly after your rant on here?

Waits for CCTV footage. Or indeed any evidence of anything. Mines gone viral, surprised you haven't seen it. Anyway he's been charged now.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 24 2019, 06:56 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 24 2019, 07:41 PM) *
Good last scene on this OFOC production...
🤣🤣🤣


https://mobile.twitter.com/OFOCBrexit/status/1131966824265015296


Newres as 'littlefinger'. 🤣

Posted by: Turin Machine May 24 2019, 07:44 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 24 2019, 07:54 PM) *
Waits for CCTV footage. Or indeed any evidence of anything. Mines gone viral, surprised you haven't seen it. Anyway he's been charged now.

You mean he might be a 'soshul meedja liar' ?

Posted by: Turin Machine May 24 2019, 07:45 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 24 2019, 07:51 PM) *
Waits for evidence.... tumbleweed....

And coyotes howling in the distance....

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 24 2019, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 24 2019, 08:44 PM) *
You mean he might be a 'soshul meedja liar' ?

It's not his fault. He most likely lives in a social media echo chamber of ahem "like minded people" and blocks anyone who he doesn't like... he even has "form" on here for that. So someone on his Twitter feed told him it was a setup so it must be true...🤣🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: newres May 25 2019, 05:17 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 24 2019, 08:53 PM) *
It's not his fault. He most likely lives in a social media echo chamber of ahem "like minded people" and blocks anyone who he doesn't like... he even has "form" on here for that. So someone on his Twitter feed told him it was a setup so it must be true...🤣🤣🤣🤣

Both The Mail and The Express were reporting it as fake, so some ďecho chamberĒ and I hardly find like minded people on here. Itís Channel Gammon.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 25 2019, 05:25 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 06:17 AM) *
Both The Mail and The Express were reporting it as fake, so some ďecho chamberĒ and I hardly find like minded people on here. Itís Channel Gammon.

And you've had your chips!😂

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 07:22 AM

And still no links.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 07:57 AM

Just out of interest, I've been out and bought a Mail. (Yeah I know) to check. Page 19, article condemning the attack on a veteran. Funny that. Still no evidence to the contrary though. I wonder why?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 25 2019, 11:14 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 25 2019, 08:57 AM) *
Just out of interest, I've been out and bought a Mail. (Yeah I know) to check. Page 19, article condemning the attack on a veteran. Funny that. Still no evidence to the contrary though. I wonder why?

SAD! FAKE NEWS!!! MAKE BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN.😂

Posted by: James_Trinder May 25 2019, 12:43 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 06:17 AM) *
I hardly find like minded people on here. Itís Channel Gammon.


With a few exceptions, I'd hope that you agree.

Posted by: newres May 25 2019, 02:20 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 25 2019, 01:43 PM) *
With a few exceptions, I'd hope that you agree.

Yes, but youíre a dip in, dip out. The gammons are full on.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 25 2019, 02:23 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 03:20 PM) *
Yes, but youíre a dip in, dip out. The gammons are full on.

A Gammon is an angry red faced person. You are the very definition. #fbpe loon.

Posted by: newres May 25 2019, 02:25 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 25 2019, 08:57 AM) *
Just out of interest, I've been out and bought a Mail. (Yeah I know) to check. Page 19, article condemning the attack on a veteran. Funny that. Still no evidence to the contrary though. I wonder why?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7065979/amp/Twitter-sleuth-sheds-doubt-poll-station-pelting-Brexit-Party-army-veteran.html

Aside from which minutes after he was posing with Paras in Aldershot where every other person is a squaddie or ex squaddie. You lot believe anything. You actually believed Davies would be negotiating the easiest deal in the world in Berlin the day after the referendum.


Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 25 2019, 02:41 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 03:25 PM) *
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7065979/amp/Twitter-sleuth-sheds-doubt-poll-station-pelting-Brexit-Party-army-veteran.html

Aside from which minutes after he was posing with Paras in Aldershot where every other person is a squaddie or ex squaddie. You lot believe anything. You actually believed Davies would be negotiating the easiest deal in the world in Berlin the day after the referendum.


Waits for evidence... tumbleweed... you remainers believe anything...
#SAD

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 02:57 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 03:25 PM) *
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7065979/amp/Twitter-sleuth-sheds-doubt-poll-station-pelting-Brexit-Party-army-veteran.html

Aside from which minutes after he was posing with Paras in Aldershot where every other person is a squaddie or ex squaddie. You lot believe anything. You actually believed Davies would be negotiating the easiest deal in the world in Berlin the day after the referendum.

Some 'remoaniac' internet detective says it was staged. Yeah, some people believe anything. Even the labour candidate who went to his aid I suppose he was in on it?
When we said proof we meant proof. Be telling us it was aliens did it next.
Still, all the people at the polling booth were fooled!
"Remainers, inventing lies since 2016"

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 03:01 PM

Where's the picture of him posing with Paras?

Where's the CCTV evidence you wibbled on about?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 25 2019, 03:08 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 25 2019, 04:01 PM) *
Where's the picture of him posing with Paras?

Where's the CCTV evidence you wibbled on about?

2 ex paras did come out and support him. After all there are more ex paras in Aldershot than any other town. He is also a well known local and they wanted to support him. There won't be any CCTV as if it did exist it would have been a remainers paradise. They just make sh1t up as they lost in 2016, lost in the GE, lost in the local elections and will lose again tomorrow. And if we have another referendum they will lose again. I sense a pattern..😂😂😂😂😂

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 25 2019, 03:11 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 25 2019, 04:08 PM) *
2 ex paras did come out and support him. After all there are more ex paras in Aldershot than any other town. He is also a well known local and they wanted to support him. There won't be any CCTV as if it did exist it would have been a remainers paradise. They just make sh1t up as they lost in 2016, lost in the GE, lost in the local elections and will lose again tomorrow. And if we have another referendum they will lose again. I sense a pattern..😂😂😂😂😂

I would add if they after 65 votes got 50.1% of the vote then that would be a final decision and we should not be asked again for 40 years. I'm afraid that is just a fact.

Posted by: newres May 25 2019, 03:13 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 25 2019, 04:11 PM) *
I would add if they after 65 votes got 50.1% of the vote then that would be a final decision and we should not be asked again for 40 years. I'm afraid that is just a fact.

Oh ok. Accept the result. If May hadnít gone, Mogg, Baker and Fatty Francois weíre after a rule change because they wouldnít wait a year!

Posted by: newres May 25 2019, 03:13 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 25 2019, 04:11 PM) *
I would add if they after 65 votes got 50.1% of the vote then that would be a final decision and we should not be asked again for 40 years. I'm afraid that is just a fact.

Oh ok. Accept the result. If May hadnít gone, Mogg, Baker and Fatty Francois weíre after a rule change because they wouldnít wait a year!

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 25 2019, 03:27 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 04:13 PM) *
Oh ok. Accept the result. If May hadnít gone, Mogg, Baker and Fatty Francois weíre after a rule change because they wouldnít wait a year!

We don't want any of them now as PM. We are going all in. This is what you have done. You and your intolerance of anyone with a different opinion. #winteriscoming

https://mobile.twitter.com/OFOCBrexit/status/1131966824265015296


Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 03:43 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 25 2019, 04:27 PM) *
We don't want any of them now as PM. We are going all in. This is what you have done. You and your intolerance of anyone with a different opinion. #winteriscoming

https://mobile.twitter.com/OFOCBrexit/status/1131966824265015296

Don't go upsetting 'littlefinger' 🤣

Posted by: newres May 25 2019, 03:44 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 25 2019, 04:27 PM) *
We don't want any of them now as PM. We are going all in. This is what you have done. You and your intolerance of anyone with a different opinion. #winteriscoming

https://mobile.twitter.com/OFOCBrexit/status/1131966824265015296

Youíd vote for a man with less principles than Sinn Fein who refuse their salaries from a government they donít recognise.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 03:47 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 04:13 PM) *
Oh ok. Accept the result. If May hadnít gone, Mogg, Baker and Fatty Francois weíre after a rule change because they wouldnít wait a year!

Hammering the keyboard with your stubby little digits won't make your posts any more lucid I'm afraid.

"BREAKING NEWS"
"Newbury remoaner throws milkshake at computer screen!"

"That'll show the internet to be wrong" said newres today.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 04:44 PM) *
Youíd vote for a man with less principles than Sinn Fein who refuse their salaries from a government they donít recognise.

Or a man who openly supports the IRA? And every other terrorists group going. Tough choice.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 25 2019, 03:55 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 25 2019, 04:49 PM) *
Or a man who openly supports the IRA? And every other terrorists group going. Tough choice.

Corbyn, like May, is a busted flush. I'm still hoping Newres throws a milkshake over Donald. 🤣

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 03:56 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 06:17 AM) *
Both The Mail and The Express were reporting it as fake, so some ďecho chamberĒ and I hardly find like minded people on here. Itís Channel Gammon.

No, they weren't, couldn't you find an adult to read it to you?

Posted by: newres May 25 2019, 04:21 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 25 2019, 04:56 PM) *
No, they weren't, couldn't you find an adult to read it to you?

One that names himself after a car? Prat.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 04:43 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 05:21 PM) *
One that names himself after a car? Prat.

Go buy a milkshake. 😂

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 25 2019, 04:48 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 25 2019, 05:43 PM) *
Go buy a milkshake. 😂

Wouldn't want to be working in BK tomorrow... 4chan (who I think are well out of order) are going to be "milkshaking" BK employees all day... oh how us "far right" people will laugh (not).

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 05:01 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 25 2019, 05:48 PM) *
Wouldn't want to be working in BK tomorrow... 4chan (who I think are well out of order) are going to be "milkshaking" BK employees all day... oh how us "far right" people will laugh (not).

World's gone mad. Still, if the next war gets fought with double choc milkshake it won't be a bad thing. 😎

Posted by: Turin Machine May 25 2019, 05:02 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 05:21 PM) *
One that names himself after a car? Prat.

Yeah, see them all the time in town. Specially liked the Turin machine x48, with extra spoiler. 🤣

Posted by: Biker1 May 26 2019, 08:49 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 06:17 AM) *
I hardly find like minded people on here. It’s Channel Gammon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qCHRYMe66g
Listen to and learn from a superior intellect! tongue.gif

Posted by: James_Trinder May 26 2019, 10:35 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2019, 03:20 PM) *
Yes, but youíre a dip in, dip out. The gammons are full on.


That is a good point. Strafin is also a voice of reason but we are both a bit part-time in terms of responding to the arguments of the pro-Brexit forum members.

In terms of current events I am a bit disappointed that Amber Rudd will not be standing for the Conservative party leadership. The whole leadership race appears to be made up of increasingly right wing candidates ranging from those that I am ambivalent about because I don't know enough about them to those that I absolutely loathe and detest.

In conclusion, things are looking pretty bleak at the moment and the best possible outcome in the foreseeable future is that the government will have dithered so much again by the end of October that they will be forced to revoke Article 50 in order to avoid the ineveitable economic ruin that would almost certainly ensue in the event of a no deal Brexit.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 26 2019, 10:54 AM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 26 2019, 11:35 AM) *
That is a good point. Strafin is also a voice of reason but we are both a bit part-time in terms of responding to the arguments of the pro-Brexit forum members.

In terms of current events I am a bit disappointed that Amber Rudd will not be standing for the Conservative party leadership. The whole leadership race appears to be made up of increasingly right wing candidates ranging from those that I am ambivalent about because I don't know enough about them to those that I absolutely loathe and detest.

In conclusion, things are looking pretty bleak at the moment and the best possible outcome in the foreseeable future is that the government will have dithered so much again by the end of October that they will be forced to revoke Article 50 in order to avoid the ineveitable economic ruin that would almost certainly ensue in the event of a no deal Brexit.


Let's just say we had another vote (which I think is troubling) and leave win again. Would you still expect article 50 to be revoked? If so, why bother with elections.

Posted by: James_Trinder May 26 2019, 12:17 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 26 2019, 11:54 AM) *
Let's just say we had another vote (which I think is troubling) and leave win again. Would you still expect article 50 to be revoked? If so, why bother with elections.


If we had another referendum and the majority of voters still chose to leave then I would not expect article 50 to be revoked. This is because the outcome will have proved to be one that can be repeated rather than just a snapshot of opinion at a single point in time. If this were to happen then it would happen with the electorate having a proper understanding of the consequences of the outcome of the vote and it could no longer be dismissed as a fluke or as a vote where an educated decision was not possible due to a lack of information being made available at the time.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 26 2019, 12:23 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 26 2019, 01:17 PM) *
If we had another referendum and the majority of voters still chose to leave then I would not expect article 50 to be revoked. This is because the outcome will have proved to be one that can be repeated rather than just a snapshot of opinion at a single point in time. If this were to happen then it would happen with the electorate having a proper understanding of the consequences of the outcome of the vote and it could no longer be dismissed as a fluke or as a vote where an educated decision was not possible due to a lack of information being made available at the time.


Ok, so if you had another referendum and the answer was stay, let's say 52 to 48. Would you expect that to be the end of the matter for say 40 years?

Posted by: Turin Machine May 26 2019, 01:01 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 26 2019, 11:35 AM) *
In conclusion, things are looking pretty bleak at the moment and the best possible outcome in the foreseeable future is that the government will have dithered so much again by the end of October that they will be forced to revoke Article 50 in order to avoid the ineveitable economic ruin that would almost certainly ensue in the event of a no deal Brexit.

An economic stutter, at worst, and that would be as nowt to the financial chaos and ruination wrought on the nation by a Marxist government.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 26 2019, 01:02 PM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 26 2019, 09:49 AM) *
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qCHRYMe66g
Listen to and learn from a superior intellect! tongue.gif

Very good, very watchable.

Posted by: newres May 26 2019, 03:28 PM

If anyone watches the local housing market, weíre at the start of a meltdown. Have a look at all the reduced prices on Rightmove. The local estate agents are panicking.

Posted by: newres May 26 2019, 03:33 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 26 2019, 11:35 AM) *
That is a good point. Strafin is also a voice of reason but we are both a bit part-time in terms of responding to the arguments of the pro-Brexit forum members.

In terms of current events I am a bit disappointed that Amber Rudd will not be standing for the Conservative party leadership. The whole leadership race appears to be made up of increasingly right wing candidates ranging from those that I am ambivalent about because I don't know enough about them to those that I absolutely loathe and detest.

In conclusion, things are looking pretty bleak at the moment and the best possible outcome in the foreseeable future is that the government will have dithered so much again by the end of October that they will be forced to revoke Article 50 in order to avoid the ineveitable economic ruin that would almost certainly ensue in the event of a no deal Brexit.

I think if Johnson or any no deal leader gets elected, they will lose a vote of confidence very quickly. At least one of those standing for leader has said he wonít see be in a BJ. cabinet. No deal would be disastrous and only rabid nationalists or the stupid would desire it.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 26 2019, 03:41 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 26 2019, 04:33 PM) *
I think if Johnson or any no deal leader gets elected, they will lose a vote of confidence very quickly. At least one of those standing for leader has said he wonít see be in a BJ. cabinet. No deal would be disastrous and only rabid nationalists or the stupid would desire it.

Yep. I'm rabid. A xenophobe. A racist. Thick. Stupid. You keep it up...call everyone you disagree with a Nazi and see what happens... waits for election results tonight.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: newres May 26 2019, 04:09 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 26 2019, 04:41 PM) *
Yep. I'm rabid. A xenophobe. A racist. Thick. Stupid. You keep it up...call everyone you disagree with a Nazi and see what happens... waits for election results tonight.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well as there is no economic benefit and all the evidence is that itíll be disastrous give me one intelligent reason to leave?


Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 26 2019, 04:21 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 26 2019, 05:09 PM) *
Well as there is no economic benefit and all the evidence is that itíll be disastrous give me one intelligent reason to leave?

Because people chose to? Happy to have a 2nd referendum fella, as long as it written in law that we hold an in / out one every 4 years? Agree?? Oh and 51% wins I'm sure you would want a "threshold" of 70 percent or so to ensure you ignore the will of the people for ever. Happened elsewhere in the EU. It's what they do. #mafia

Posted by: newres May 26 2019, 04:30 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 26 2019, 05:21 PM) *
Because people chose to? Happy to have a 2nd referendum fella, as long as it written in law that we hold an in / out one every 4 years? Agree?? Oh and 51% wins I'm sure you would want a "threshold" of 70 percent or so to ensure you ignore the will of the people for ever. Happened elsewhere in the EU. It's what they do. #mafia

People chose to based upon a great deal. What was promised canít be delivered and thatís why we need another vote. The reason we havenít left letís not forget is because of leavers voting down the WA.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 26 2019, 04:38 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 26 2019, 05:30 PM) *
People chose to based upon a great deal. What was promised canít be delivered and thatís why we need another vote. The reason we havenít left letís not forget is because of leavers voting down the WA.

How do you phrase the question?
What is the question?
Does 51 percent win?
When will be the next vote?
How long will it take?

Posted by: newres May 26 2019, 04:39 PM

Interesting theory.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/our-next-pm-will-have-to-show-some-honesty-about-brexit-m86qc2ksm

Posted by: Turin Machine May 26 2019, 05:12 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 26 2019, 05:30 PM) *
People chose to based upon a great deal. What was promised canít be delivered and thatís why we need another vote. The reason we havenít left letís not forget is because of leavers voting down the WA.

Wrong, again. Tell me Mr B Liar, where did it mention 'getting a great deal' on the ballot card? huh? The question was, stay, or go. That's it, clear and simple.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 26 2019, 05:14 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 26 2019, 05:38 PM) *
How do you phrase the question?
What is the question?
Does 51 percent win?
When will be the next vote?
How long will it take?

Unless we go to Europe AGAIN, and ask for an extension AGAIN, times already run out.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 26 2019, 05:18 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 26 2019, 06:14 PM) *
Unless we go to Europe AGAIN, and ask for an extension AGAIN, times already run out.

Quite agree fella.. that's why they just want to revoke it without ANY vote... I personally will be very unhappy If that happens. #farageiscoming

Posted by: Turin Machine May 26 2019, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 26 2019, 06:18 PM) *
Quite agree fella.. that's why they just want to revoke it without ANY vote... I personally will be very unhappy If that happens. #farageiscoming

Figure I 'heared' was 27%, we shall see.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 26 2019, 05:33 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 26 2019, 06:22 PM) *
Figure I 'heared' was 27%, we shall see.

After 7 weeks since concept that would still be amazing. Though most newres types will say it's a disaster (despite polling first) 🤣🤣

Posted by: Turin Machine May 26 2019, 06:14 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 26 2019, 06:33 PM) *
After 7 weeks since concept that would still be amazing. Though most newres types will say it's a disaster (despite polling first) ����

It's like 'Adventures in Brexitland', yay! Seriously though, it's going to be interesting, revoke and piss off 50% of the electorate? Or go 'no deal' and boost sales for burger king?

Posted by: newres May 26 2019, 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 26 2019, 06:14 PM) *
Unless we go to Europe AGAIN, and ask for an extension AGAIN, times already run out.

If whoever wins the Tory election tries to leave with no deal, the government will fall through a vote of no confidence which will get us an automatic extension.

Posted by: newres May 26 2019, 06:17 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 26 2019, 06:33 PM) *
After 7 weeks since concept that would still be amazing. Though most newres types will say it's a disaster (despite polling first) 🤣🤣

It is amazing but heíll never win a general election and we know heís popular among a certain type.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 26 2019, 06:48 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 26 2019, 07:16 PM) *
If whoever wins the Tory election tries to leave with no deal, the government will fall through a vote of no confidence which will get us an automatic extension.

Try 😂 to prove that with some data. Not remainer hopes n dreams, data!

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 26 2019, 07:03 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 26 2019, 07:17 PM) *
It is amazing but heíll never win a general election and we know heís popular among a certain type.

As is Corbyn with a certain "type".

Posted by: newres May 26 2019, 07:56 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 26 2019, 08:03 PM) *
As is Corbyn with a certain "type".

Whoís that then. I donít like him and have never voted for him although Iíve voted Labour in the past.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 26 2019, 08:26 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 26 2019, 08:56 PM) *
Whoís that then. I donít like him and have never voted for him although Iíve voted Labour in the past.

I'm just commenting on your bigoted language. You don't even know your doing it... #sad

Posted by: James_Trinder May 26 2019, 11:34 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 26 2019, 01:23 PM) *
Ok, so if you had another referendum and the answer was stay, let's say 52 to 48. Would you expect that to be the end of the matter for say 40 years?


The way that I would run the referendum, you would need at least 60% of the votes cast in order for any change to the status quo to be made. This would apply to any future referendum, whether it be on Brexit or Scottish independence or any other matter. The emphasis should not be about proving why the current state of affairs is a good thing but rather why the alternative is better. This approach is commonly used in statistics in the area of hypothesis testing. So to answer your question, I would expect the outcome that you have described to be the end of the matter for 40 years, as it was after the previous referendum to join the Common Market.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 27 2019, 04:29 AM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 27 2019, 12:34 AM) *
The way that I would run the referendum, you would need at least 60% of the votes cast in order for any change to the status quo to be made. This would apply to any future referendum, whether it be on Brexit or Scottish independence or any other matter. The emphasis should not be about proving why the current state of affairs is a good thing but rather why the alternative is better. This approach is commonly used in statistics in the area of hypothesis testing. So to answer your question, I would expect the outcome that you have described to be the end of the matter for 40 years, as it was after the previous referendum to join the Common Market.

So in summary, you want to remove any chance of remain losing again. Why not make it 80 percent? 😂😂

Posted by: Turin Machine May 27 2019, 06:10 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 27 2019, 05:29 AM) *
So in summary, you want to remove any chance of remain losing again. Why not make it 80 percent? 😂😂

Or 100%, or just give poll cards to remainers? You know, just to make it balanced.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 27 2019, 06:19 AM

I wonder, is it possible both labour and conservative could get hammered in a ge?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 27 2019, 07:57 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 27 2019, 07:19 AM) *
I wonder, is it possible both labour and conservative could get hammered in a ge?

If there was a GE tomorrow both would be destroyed...

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 09:19 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 27 2019, 08:57 AM) *
If there was a GE tomorrow both would be destroyed...

If you wish to make such claims, if there were a referendum tomorrow it would be 60:40 to remain.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 27 2019, 11:03 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 27 2019, 08:57 AM) *
If there was a GE tomorrow both would be destroyed...

Pretty convincing statement last night. From a party that's what? Six weeks old? Labour even came second in Islington!

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 02:31 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 27 2019, 12:03 PM) *
Pretty convincing statement last night. From a party that's what? Six weeks old? Labour even came second in Islington!

But do you not think that as they are a single issue party that they will have a ceiling in terms of appeal? They have probably reached it because when the GE comes, there will be some that return to the Tories as they shift to the right. I do think any that moved from Labour will stay with them as the most likely outcome will be that Labour will firm up a Remain/confirmatory vote position.


Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 27 2019, 03:13 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 27 2019, 03:31 PM) *
But do you not think that as they are a single issue party that they will have a ceiling in terms of appeal? They have probably reached it because when the GE comes, there will be some that return to the Tories as they shift to the right. I do think any that moved from Labour will stay with them as the most likely outcome will be that Labour will firm up a Remain/confirmatory vote position.

I fully expect the Tories to go for a no deal and Farage will then join them. That would mean a 40 percent share of the vote at a GE. The other parties would be screwed given our voting system.

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 03:30 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 27 2019, 04:13 PM) *
I fully expect the Tories to go for a no deal and Farage will then join them. That would mean a 40 percent share of the vote at a GE. The other parties would be screwed given our voting system.

That would split the Tory party. Donít forget West Berks is Conservative AND remain. The result of that here would be a Lib Dem MP.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 27 2019, 03:47 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 27 2019, 04:30 PM) *
That would split the Tory party. Donít forget West Berks is Conservative AND remain. The result of that here would be a Lib Dem MP.

That is your opinion. Mine is different. I do thing the Lib Dems could get in here as we have a pro EU MP that would put any leaver off. Why would Benyon want to leave the gravy train and CAP.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360998/amp/Wealthy-minister-earns-2m-EU-farm-subsidies-department-tried-cover-up.html

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 27 2019, 04:47 PM) *
That is your opinion. Mine is different. I do thing the Lib Dems could get in here as we have a pro EU MP that would put any leaver off. Why would Benyon want to leave the gravy train and CAP.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360998/amp/Wealthy-minister-earns-2m-EU-farm-subsidies-department-tried-cover-up.html

Heís no different to any other Tory and Iím not a fan. Iím just pointing out facts.


Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 04:03 PM

And talking of gravy trains, will all the Brexit MEPs refuse their salaries? That would be the principled thing to do.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 27 2019, 04:23 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 27 2019, 05:03 PM) *
And talking of gravy trains, will all the Brexit MEPs refuse their salaries? That would be the principled thing to do.

This is the ultimate gravy train....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-48280134

30000 staff....

Posted by: Turin Machine May 27 2019, 05:50 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 27 2019, 04:30 PM) *
That would split the Tory party. Donít forget West Berks is Conservative AND remain. The result of that here would be a Lib Dem MP.

Except we just elected a brexit MEP.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 27 2019, 05:52 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 27 2019, 04:47 PM) *
That is your opinion. Mine is different. I do thing the Lib Dems could get in here as we have a pro EU MP that would put any leaver off. Why would Benyon want to leave the gravy train and CAP.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360998/amp/Wealthy-minister-earns-2m-EU-farm-subsidies-department-tried-cover-up.html

Not a fan of his I'm afraid, however I did help campaign for David Rendel.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 27 2019, 06:07 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 27 2019, 06:52 PM) *
Not a fan of his I'm afraid, however I did help campaign for David Rendel.


Not am I.

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 06:38 PM

https://twitter.com/gilljeffery13/status/1132762814131658752?s=21

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 06:41 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 27 2019, 06:50 PM) *
Except we just elected a brexit MEP.

What were the percentages in West Berks? Iíve not seen them but I presume Greens and Libdems would probably be around 55-65%?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 27 2019, 06:49 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 27 2019, 07:41 PM) *
What were the percentages in West Berks? Iíve not seen them but I presume Greens and Libdems would probably be around 55-65%?

First Past the Post fella...and see for yourself. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Greens + Lib Dems were 43%. Further proof you live in an #fbpe echo chamber

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48403131

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 07:48 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 27 2019, 07:49 PM) *
First Past the Post fella...and see for yourself. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Greens + Lib Dems were 43%. Further proof you live in an #fbpe echo chamber

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48403131

Remind me, what was Brexit and UKIP combined? laugh.gif

Although Brexit were the largest single ďpartyĒ, Farage has demonstrated that itís only around 30% that support his sort of Brexit and heís also ****** up the Tories making Brexit even less likely. Win, win for Remain.

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 07:57 PM

Oh and the other thing Brexit Party have done is forced Labourís hand over a second referendum. BJ will be in serious trouble now because to avoid a general election heíll have to allow a second referendum but if he does that, ERG will vote him down. Heís snookered. Itís an impossible position for anyone.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 27 2019, 08:05 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 27 2019, 08:57 PM) *
Oh and the other thing Brexit Party have done is forced Labourís hand over a second referendum. BJ will be in serious trouble now because to avoid a general election heíll have to allow a second referendum but if he does that, ERG will vote him down. Heís snookered. Itís an impossible position for anyone.


Yep. But Boris and Farage combined could win a GE and that would end all remainer hope. Do you want to risk that? Go ahead. Do you feel lucky? Well do ya?😂😂

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 08:09 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 27 2019, 09:05 PM) *
Yep. But Boris and Farage combined could win a GE and that would end all remainer hope. Do you want to risk that? Go ahead. Do you feel lucky? Well do ya?😂😂

You donít get it do you? Itíll split the Tory party. Phillip Hammond will jump ship and he wonít be alone. Brexit is finished. It was Mayís deal or Remain.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 27 2019, 08:18 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 27 2019, 09:09 PM) *
You donít get it do you? Itíll split the Tory party. Phillip Hammond will jump ship and he wonít be alone. Brexit is finished. It was Mayís deal or Remain.

You just don't get it do you? Hammond is despised. Won't make a jot of difference.

Posted by: newres May 27 2019, 08:22 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 27 2019, 09:18 PM) *
You just don't get it do you? Hammond is despised. Won't make a jot of difference.

Heís only despised by people like you. The 30%.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 27 2019, 08:51 PM

Boris is clear favourite. All the bookies say so. Hammond can go swing.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 27 2019, 10:24 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 27 2019, 07:41 PM) *
What were the percentages in West Berks? Iíve not seen them but I presume Greens and Libdems would probably be around 55-65%?


The results for West Berkshire, announced last night, were:

Change UK - The Independent Group 1,948

Conservative and Unionist Party 5,974

Green Party 6,029

Labour Party 1,632

Liberal Democrats 13,981

The Brexit Party 15,830

The Socialist Party of Great Britain 59

UK European Union Party 118

UK Independence Party 883

McMahon 54

Round 37

Turberville 30

The turnout was 39.30 per cent.

Posted by: newres May 28 2019, 05:12 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 27 2019, 11:24 PM) *
The results for West Berkshire, announced last night, were:

Change UK - The Independent Group 1,948

Conservative and Unionist Party 5,974

Green Party 6,029

Labour Party 1,632

Liberal Democrats 13,981

The Brexit Party 15,830

The Socialist Party of Great Britain 59

UK European Union Party 118

UK Independence Party 883

McMahon 54

Round 37

Turberville 30

The turnout was 39.30 per cent.

Thank you. A majority for the Remain parties.

Posted by: Strafin May 28 2019, 07:24 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 27 2019, 09:51 PM) *
Boris is clear favourite. All the bookies say so. Hammond can go swing.


Bookies don't work on probability though, they only work on what bets are actually placed and work out the finest balance of odds to ensure the largest return whoever wins.

Posted by: newres May 28 2019, 10:31 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 27 2019, 09:51 PM) *
Boris is clear favourite. All the bookies say so. Hammond can go swing.

If BJ wins and goes for no deal the government will fall and the Tories will be wiped out. The only way out of this is a second referendum with clearly defined options.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 28 2019, 01:25 PM

BBC News - Alastair Campbell expelled from Labour Party
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48434842

Just wee'd myself, just a bit. #watchlabourtearitselfapart.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 28 2019, 03:46 PM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 28 2019, 08:24 AM) *
Bookies don't work on probability though, they only work on what bets are actually placed and work out the finest balance of odds to ensure the largest return whoever wins.

To win the most seats at the next General Election according to Coral

Labour - 11-10
Conservative - 5-4
Brexit Party - 6-1

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 28 2019, 07:08 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 28 2019, 04:46 PM) *
To win the most seats at the next General Election according to Coral

Labour - 11-10
Conservative - 5-4
Brexit Party - 6-1


Lib Dems are 33s. Get on Newres!

Posted by: newres May 29 2019, 05:45 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 28 2019, 08:08 PM) *
Lib Dems are 33s. Get on Newres!

I think youíve got a thing for me. Newbury will be interesting though. Iíd imagine Benyon will get a good chunk of his votes back in a GE but I doubt Brexit would get as many votes percentage wise so this could easily be a Lib Dem seat again. The greens did well too though and it would be a shame to see the ďliberalĒ vote split like that here.

Just for the record Iím a floating voter.

Posted by: Biker1 May 29 2019, 07:21 AM

Classic NWN headline.....Newbury MP - "I'm bored with Brexit".
That's strange, the rest of us are enthralled with it. Especially the way it has been handled by the Tories!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Strafin May 29 2019, 07:53 AM

I was really annoyed when I saw that article, the biggest thing happening in our country for 20 years which was initiated by his party and has been ballsed up by his party, and he's bored? It's an indication of how parliament feels about its electorate.

Posted by: newres May 29 2019, 07:53 AM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 29 2019, 08:21 AM) *
Classic NWN headline.....Newbury MP - "I'm bored with Brexit".
That's strange, the rest of us are enthralled with it. Especially the way it has been handled by the Tories!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I do wonder what we'll do for entertainment if it all gets resolved amicably (like that's gonna happen).

Posted by: James_Trinder May 29 2019, 10:11 AM

This has cheered me right up this morning:

https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/29/boris-johnson-must-go-court-brexit-bus-lies-9722730/


Posted by: je suis Charlie May 29 2019, 10:49 AM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 29 2019, 11:11 AM) *
This has cheered me right up this morning:

https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/29/boris-johnson-must-go-court-brexit-bus-lies-9722730/

As it should, man's a buffoon. Imagine? A politician lying? Wow!

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 29 2019, 02:06 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 29 2019, 11:49 AM) *
As it should, man's a buffoon. Imagine? A politician lying? Wow!

This fella seems the best option

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoryStewartUK


Posted by: newres May 29 2019, 02:29 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 29 2019, 03:06 PM) *
This fella seems the best option

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoryStewartUK

Or Matt Hancock. None of them can get Brexit through though without a customs union. There's only one way out now.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 29 2019, 02:32 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 29 2019, 03:06 PM) *
This fella seems the best option

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoryStewartUK

Probably too honest if truth be told. Still, Boris is still odds on favourite in Westminster. With Tusk saying Non! To any further negotiations, unless they revoke (which would be suicide) they have simply run out of time. What a mess!

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 29 2019, 02:44 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 29 2019, 03:32 PM) *
Probably too honest if truth be told. Still, Boris is still odds on favourite in Westminster. With Tusk saying Non! To any further negotiations, unless they revoke (which would be suicide) they have simply run out of time. What a mess!

From Gina Miller,

"But the grim reality is that with so many unscrupulous politicians so close to taking the leadership of the Conservative party, and the office of prime minister, a no-deal Brexit seems more likely than ever before."

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 29 2019, 06:46 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 29 2019, 11:11 AM) *
This has cheered me right up this morning:

https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/29/boris-johnson-must-go-court-brexit-bus-lies-9722730/


Be an interesting precedent. Blair, Campbell (WMD), and every remainer that said we would be in recession if we voted out would be fair game. #canofworms. Crowdfunding has already started to prosecute scaremongering remain MPs.

Posted by: SirWilliam May 29 2019, 07:02 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 29 2019, 11:49 AM) *
As it should, man's a buffoon. Imagine? A politician lying? Wow!


If every politician who was economical with the truth was hauled before the beak the judicial system would be in gainful employment till the end of the century. To waste time and money on this charade when real criminals seem to operate with impunity only emphasises what a card carrying w****r this Marcus Ball is and though I am no supporter of BJ I do hope he gets a decent settlement for defamation.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 29 2019, 07:13 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ May 29 2019, 08:02 PM) *
If every politician who was economical with the truth was hauled before the beak the judicial system would be in gainful employment till the end of the century. To waste time and money on this charade when real criminals seem to operate with impunity only emphasises what a card carrying w****r this Marcus Ball is and though I am no supporter of BJ I do hope he gets a decent settlement for defamation.


It rather some up the "loon" element of the #fbpe remain camp I am afraid. It would be interesting to analyse the data on the profiles (wealth, location and ethnicity) of these "dubious" types that funded this farce.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 29 2019, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 29 2019, 08:13 PM) *
It rather some up the "loon" element of the #fbpe remain camp I am afraid. It would be interesting to analyse the data on the profiles (wealth, location and ethnicity) of these "dubious" types that funded this farce.

Rich, London and White would be my guess...

Posted by: newres May 30 2019, 04:05 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 29 2019, 07:46 PM) *
Be an interesting precedent. Blair, Campbell (WMD), and every remainer that said we would be in recession if we voted out would be fair game. #canofworms. Crowdfunding has already started to prosecute scaremongering remain MPs.

Thereís a difference between economic forecasts and blatant lies. And I agree about WMD. But what was your view on Iraq at the time? Did you on balance support the war?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 30 2019, 05:00 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 30 2019, 05:05 AM) *
Thereís a difference between economic forecasts and blatant lies. And I agree about WMD. But what was your view on Iraq at the time? Did you on balance support the war?

I wasn't marching in London but I have always opposed wars against dictatorships in the Middle East. I have been very consistent on that. It NEVER ends well. The only exception to that was the first Iraq war when Sadaam invaded Kuwait. That was justifiable, to a degree.

Posted by: Biker1 May 30 2019, 07:32 AM

Perhaps the Liberal Democrats should be prosecuted for blatant lying in their party name.
Democrats who want to overturn a democratic vote?

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 30 2019, 07:49 AM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 30 2019, 08:32 AM) *
Perhaps the Liberal Democrats should be prosecuted for blatant lying in their party name.
Democrats who want to overturn a democratic vote?

Or labour for pledging to "respect the result of the referendum"?

Posted by: SirWilliam May 30 2019, 08:14 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 30 2019, 08:49 AM) *
Or labour for pledging to "respect the result of the referendum"?


Or the Greens for not being a brassica? Oh sorry they are . laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: newres May 30 2019, 09:29 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 30 2019, 08:49 AM) *
Or labour for pledging to "respect the result of the referendum"?

It's the Tory right wing that have blocked Brexit - ERG.

Posted by: newres May 30 2019, 09:30 AM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 30 2019, 08:32 AM) *
Perhaps the Liberal Democrats should be prosecuted for blatant lying in their party name.
Democrats who want to overturn a democratic vote?

That's democracy.

Posted by: Strafin May 30 2019, 11:24 AM

It's interesting that some people think politicians are allowed to lie, and that it would be daft to believe everything they say. Except when they were told that the referendum would stand no matter what.

Can't have it both ways.

Posted by: newres May 30 2019, 11:55 AM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 30 2019, 12:24 PM) *
It's interesting that some people think politicians are allowed to lie, and that it would be daft to believe everything they say. Except when they were told that the referendum would stand no matter what.

Can't have it both ways.

Nice observation.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 30 2019, 12:09 PM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 30 2019, 12:24 PM) *
It's interesting that some people think politicians are allowed to lie, and that it would be daft to believe everything they say. Except when they were told that the referendum would stand no matter what.

Can't have it both ways.


Two points,
If the ref had gone remain would you still be saying that.

If it's ok to attempt to prosecute a brexiteer, presumably it's ok to prosecute any mp who misleads.

If I had a time machine I would go back and do whatever was necessary to stop the referendum in the first place. It's divided the nation and its brought both Tory and labour parties to the brink of destruction.

Posted by: James_Trinder May 30 2019, 12:13 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 29 2019, 07:46 PM) *
Be an interesting precedent. Blair, Campbell (WMD), and every remainer that said we would be in recession if we voted out would be fair game. #canofworms. Crowdfunding has already started to prosecute scaremongering remain MPs.


No, it was said that we would be in recession if we left the EU. Voting out and actually leaving the EU are two very different things, as we are certainly now aware. Since we haven't actually left the EU yet, the validity of these statements is yet to be evaluated and therefore no prosecutions could or should be made on that basis.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 30 2019, 12:31 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 30 2019, 01:13 PM) *
No, it was said that we would be in recession if we left the EU. Voting out and actually leaving the EU are two very different things, as we are certainly now aware. Since we haven't actually left the EU yet, the validity of these statements is yet to be evaluated and therefore no prosecutions could or should be made on that basis.

Incorrect. Just voting to leave would cause a DIY recession, we were told.

Posted by: James_Trinder May 30 2019, 12:40 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 30 2019, 01:31 PM) *
Incorrect. Just voting to leave would cause a DIY recession, we were told.


If the following is the article/quote that you are referring to then I can see how you might have interpreted it that way but I certainly didn't. I'll leave everybody else to form their own opinions:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 30 2019, 02:08 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 30 2019, 01:40 PM) *
If the following is the article/quote that you are referring to then I can see how you might have interpreted it that way but I certainly didn't. I'll leave everybody else to form their own opinions:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564

There's been so much talk about how the threat of brexit would cause businesses to relocate abroad, hasn't happened, people say "but we haven't left yet" to which I say "if your house catches fire you don't wait for it to burn to the ground before getting out do you". The economy is actually in a very good place at the moment.

Posted by: newres May 30 2019, 02:31 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 30 2019, 03:08 PM) *
There's been so much talk about how the threat of brexit would cause businesses to relocate abroad, hasn't happened, people say "but we haven't left yet" to which I say "if your house catches fire you don't wait for it to burn to the ground before getting out do you". The economy is actually in a very good place at the moment.

Businesses are moving or planning to. But your analogy is incorrect, moving now is really just an insurance policy. The real damage will come after when we lose inward investment jobs. Obviously losing frictionless trade will mean more job losses.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-companies-leaving-uk-list-job-cuts-eu-no-deal-customs-union-a8792296.html

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 30 2019, 04:27 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 30 2019, 03:31 PM) *
Businesses are moving or planning to. But your analogy is incorrect, moving now is really just an insurance policy. The real damage will come after when we lose inward investment jobs. Obviously losing frictionless trade will mean more job losses.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-companies-leaving-uk-list-job-cuts-eu-no-deal-customs-union-a8792296.html

I stand corrected, I see the decision by nissan to pull the plug on the X trail is totally due to brexit. Nothing of course to do with;

"In the first quarter of 2019, sales of the Nissan X-Trail SUV, once popular in Europe, fell by two thirds. The reason is the new WLTP standards.
In the first quarter of 2019, the Nissan X-Trail lost 67% in the European market compared to the Q1 2018. In the first TOP 10 mid-size SUVs, it took only in the 7th place. A couple of years ago it was the second.

New WLTP requirements for emissions level are the reason for the X-Trail sales drop, according to experts. The automaker had to withdraw some versions from the market due to them."

So, nothing to do with the fact the the xtrail only sold 24,000 units Europe wide last year? And nothing to do with the fact that in order for it to meet new standards would require complete new retooling, for a car whose sales are in free fall. No! It's brexit! Of course it is!

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 30 2019, 05:48 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 30 2019, 05:27 PM) *
I stand corrected, I see the decision by nissan to pull the plug on the X trail is totally due to brexit. Nothing of course to do with;

"In the first quarter of 2019, sales of the Nissan X-Trail SUV, once popular in Europe, fell by two thirds. The reason is the new WLTP standards.
In the first quarter of 2019, the Nissan X-Trail lost 67% in the European market compared to the Q1 2018. In the first TOP 10 mid-size SUVs, it took only in the 7th place. A couple of years ago it was the second.

New WLTP requirements for emissions level are the reason for the X-Trail sales drop, according to experts. The automaker had to withdraw some versions from the market due to them."

So, nothing to do with the fact the the xtrail only sold 24,000 units Europe wide last year? And nothing to do with the fact that in order for it to meet new standards would require complete new retooling, for a car whose sales are in free fall. No! It's brexit! Of course it is!


I honestly don't know what remoaners would do if we did stay. What could they blame for everything? Its also the only reason some of these #fbpe cult loons get up in the morning. They can't have jobs, some of these Twitter feeds contain a tweet every bloody 10 minutes..

Posted by: SirWilliam May 30 2019, 06:13 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 30 2019, 06:48 PM) *
I honestly don't know what remoaners would do if we did stay. What could they blame for everything? Its also the only reason some of these #fbpe cult loons get up in the morning. They can't have jobs, some of these Twitter feeds contain a tweet every bloody 10 minutes..


They multi-task/function. Observe any member of the great unwashed and they seem incapable of conducting the simplest of tasks without the obligatory phone in one hand and coffee cup in the other. How they procreate is a mystery but one assumes they operate in the workplace with minium restriction. As one who still thinks a tweet is an ornithological reference I stand on the sidelines and observe with increasing incredulity. cool.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 30 2019, 06:15 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ May 30 2019, 07:13 PM) *
They multi-task/function. Observe any member of the great unwashed and they seem incapable of conducting the simplest of tasks without the obligatory phone in one hand and coffee cup in the other. How they procreate is a mystery but one assumes they operate in the workplace with minium restriction. As one who still thinks a tweet is an ornithological reference I stand on the sidelines and observe with increasing incredulity. cool.gif

They probably give a live Twitter feed and give Instagram updates during said procreation...😂😂

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 30 2019, 06:42 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 30 2019, 07:15 PM) *
They probably give a live Twitter feed and give Instagram updates during said procreation...😂😂

While vaping and trimming their beards, ******* hipsters!

Posted by: newres May 30 2019, 07:11 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 30 2019, 05:27 PM) *
I stand corrected, I see the decision by nissan to pull the plug on the X trail is totally due to brexit. Nothing of course to do with;

"In the first quarter of 2019, sales of the Nissan X-Trail SUV, once popular in Europe, fell by two thirds. The reason is the new WLTP standards.
In the first quarter of 2019, the Nissan X-Trail lost 67% in the European market compared to the Q1 2018. In the first TOP 10 mid-size SUVs, it took only in the 7th place. A couple of years ago it was the second.

New WLTP requirements for emissions level are the reason for the X-Trail sales drop, according to experts. The automaker had to withdraw some versions from the market due to them."

So, nothing to do with the fact the the xtrail only sold 24,000 units Europe wide last year? And nothing to do with the fact that in order for it to meet new standards would require complete new retooling, for a car whose sales are in free fall. No! It's brexit! Of course it is!

Was Nissan the only example?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 30 2019, 08:09 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 30 2019, 08:11 PM) *
Was Nissan the only example?

I have it on good authority that Apple, Google and Microsoft are going out of business because of Brexit.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 30 2019, 10:04 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 30 2019, 08:11 PM) *
Was Nissan the only example?

It was considered important enough to place it first in the article, so their premiere case is in fact a lie.

Companies relocate all the time, sometimes it's for cheaper rents, sometimes it's a more advantageous tax regime, cheaper labour, bigger government handouts, you name it. But rather than explain exactly why you're doing it is sometimes politically disadvantageous, so you say it's brexit. Easy.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 30 2019, 11:50 PM

Welly, Welly, Welly,

"EU banks and fund managers faced being stopped from trading dual-listed companies in the UK capital, should Britain leave the bloc without a deal in place, under a rule from Europeís markets watchdog to ďsignificantly reduce the scopeĒ of trading obligations. But the European Securities and Markets Authority (ESMA) has now announced a U-turn on the plans after ďtaking into account the concerns expressed by stakeholdersĒ. ESMA said it had identified 6,243 companies that investors registered in the EU would have to trade on European exchanges in the event of Britain leaving in a hard Brexit scenario. Of this group, 14 dual-listed stocks Ė including Vodafone, BP, Royal Dutch Shell, AstraZeneca, GlaxoSmithKline and Coca-Cola European Partners Ė have their most active market in London."
The London Stock Exchange said the news was positive for investors and a ďstep forward in avoiding market disruption in a no-deal BrexitĒ.

Posted by: newres May 31 2019, 04:19 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 30 2019, 11:04 PM) *
It was considered important enough to place it first in the article, so their premiere case is in fact a lie.

Companies relocate all the time, sometimes it's for cheaper rents, sometimes it's a more advantageous tax regime, cheaper labour, bigger government handouts, you name it. But rather than explain exactly why you're doing it is sometimes politically disadvantageous, so you say it's brexit. Easy.

What about all the banks and finance houses that have moved staff? British Steel is almost certainly a victim of lost contracts due to the Brexit uncertainty. Youíd have to be pretty ignorant to not realise the jeopardy the automotive industry will be in if we exit the single market as well as agriculture. Patrick Minford has said this is a necessary cost.

But future inward investment losses would be huge too.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 31 2019, 05:50 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 31 2019, 05:19 AM) *
What about all the banks and finance houses that have moved staff? British Steel is almost certainly a victim of lost contracts due to the Brexit uncertainty. Youíd have to be pretty ignorant to not realise the jeopardy the automotive industry will be in if we exit the single market as well as agriculture. Patrick Minford has said this is a necessary cost.

But future inward investment losses would be huge too.


You are as deranged as the Anti Trump lot in the USA. I think you actually want a recession just so you can say "told you so"... your cup is half empty all the time. I like to keep mine half full. You must be a joy to work with....

Posted by: Biker1 May 31 2019, 06:14 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 30 2019, 10:30 AM) *
That's democracy.

Eh!? unsure.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine May 31 2019, 10:51 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 31 2019, 05:19 AM) *
What about all the banks and finance houses that have moved staff? British Steel is almost certainly a victim of lost contracts due to the Brexit uncertainty. Youíd have to be pretty ignorant to not realise the jeopardy the automotive industry will be in if we exit the single market as well as agriculture. Patrick Minford has said this is a necessary cost.

But future inward investment losses would be huge too.

What automotive industry?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 31 2019, 11:03 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 31 2019, 11:51 AM) *
What automotive industry?

The one JC will create in the glorious revolution.😂

Posted by: newres May 31 2019, 03:27 PM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 31 2019, 07:14 AM) *
Eh!? unsure.gif

In a democracy we get to campaign against things we donít like. Thatís democracy.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 31 2019, 03:45 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 31 2019, 04:27 PM) *
In a democracy we get to throw milkshakes at things we donít like. Thatís democracy.

FTFY. 😂

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 31 2019, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 31 2019, 04:27 PM) *
In a democracy we get to campaign against things we donít like. Thatís democracy.

We also get to vote. Though I'm not sure people will bother anymore
What's the point? Tell me. Lose.. vote again. Lose.. vote again. I sense a pattern..Anyway I'm actually looking forward to an EU Army now. Be great when they start conscripting remoaners children. I shall laugh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15541948


Posted by: spartacus May 31 2019, 04:42 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 31 2019, 12:03 PM) *
The one JC will create in the glorious revolution.😂
You're thinking of tractor factories. Tractors to help the proletariat till the land. And once we have enough tractors we can build cars.. Cars that made this country Great.. cars that people want and can afford... the designs are ready...

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 31 2019, 04:56 PM

QUOTE (spartacus @ May 31 2019, 05:42 PM) *
You're thinking of tractor factories. Tractors to help the proletariat till the land. And once we have enough tractors we can build cars.. Cars that made this country Great.. cars that people want and can afford... the designs are ready...

No comrade, we can build 'tractors' but not cars, cars are for imperialist elites. Once we have enough tractors built in the Birmingham oblast we will build tanks! Tanks comrades! An army of steel to grind the imperial elite into the dust! The pasty whey faced imperialist scum will tremble before the steel will of party chairman Corbyn! Onwards! Not one step back!

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 31 2019, 05:30 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 31 2019, 05:56 PM) *
No comrade, we can build 'tractors' but not cars, cars are for imperialist elites. Once we have enough tractors built in the Birmingham oblast we will build tanks! Tanks comrades! An army of steel to grind the imperial elite into the dust! The pasty whey faced imperialist scum will tremble before the steel will of party chairman Corbyn! Onwards! Not one step back!


More than an element of truth in it my friend. Tractors are mentioned in this FT article...🤣🤣

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/83424336-2a29-11e9-88a4-c32129756dd8

Posted by: Andy1 May 31 2019, 05:33 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 30 2019, 03:31 PM) *
The real damage will come after when we lose inward investment jobs.


Totally agree.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 31 2019, 06:08 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 31 2019, 05:19 AM) *
What about all the banks and finance houses that have moved staff? British Steel is almost certainly a victim of lost contracts due to the Brexit uncertainty. Youíd have to be pretty ignorant to not realise the jeopardy the automotive industry will be in if we exit the single market as well as agriculture. Patrick Minford has said this is a necessary cost.

But future inward investment losses would be huge too.

But nothing to do with this then,

"John McDonnell interview: why capitalism is on borrowed time".

You see, banks and big businesses absolutely thrive under the threat of governments who threaten this, stockholders love it. 🤣

Posted by: je suis Charlie Jun 18 2019, 03:56 PM

Meanwhile, Mr milkshake,

BBC News - Nigel Farage milkshake attack: Newcastle man told to pay compensation
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-48675804

Mind you, if he was to throw more and drink less he wouldn't be such a fat loser. So there's that. I see people have raised some money for him, now he can afford a better suit for his next job interview, so there's that as well 😁

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