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> Roof Ornament Thieves Cheat Newbury's State Of The Art CCTV System
Andy Capp
post Oct 3 2012, 09:40 PM
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Newbury's Maidenhead based digital CCTV system failed to deter or identify 'roof thieves'. Newbury's old analogue CCTV system needed upgrading. It was said it sometimes failed to adequately identify criminals which included lead thieves operating in the highstreet. It seems our whizzy new CCTV system can't do it either! When will the carnage end!

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2012/irrepla...ewbury-building
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Andy Capp
post Oct 3 2012, 10:03 PM
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If they are worried about privacy, why not have your system hosted somewhere else; like Newbury has! They spot nothing! tongue.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19812385
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post Oct 4 2012, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 3 2012, 11:03 PM) *
If they are worried about privacy, why not have your system hosted somewhere else; like Newbury has! They spot nothing! tongue.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19812385

Yawn,

I suggest you stop reading 2000AD & Tornado & actually find out how CCTV works.
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Andy Capp
post Oct 4 2012, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 02:01 AM) *
Yawn, I suggest you stop reading 2000AD & Tornado & actually find out how CCTV works.

Or not, as appears the case with Newbury's...
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post Oct 4 2012, 07:51 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 02:01 AM) *
Yawn,

Shhhhh, troll go sleepy-bye-bye.


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post Oct 4 2012, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 4 2012, 02:50 AM) *
Or not, as appears the case with Newbury's...

You quite clearly don't get it. Never mind.
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post Oct 4 2012, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Oct 4 2012, 08:51 AM) *
Shhhhh, troll go sleepy-bye-bye.




Sorry, did I wake you?
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Andy Capp
post Oct 4 2012, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 09:45 AM) *
You quite clearly don't get it. Never mind.

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 09:49 AM) *
Sorry, did I wake you?

What is clear:

1 You fail to recognise satire.
2 You are over-sensitive to certain criticisms.
3 If you don't like a post, you are quick to insult (see point 2)


As for not knowing how CCTV works; that is privileged information, but regardless of the technical reasons, the current CCTV system has not been helpful in protecting the buildings from theft. That is a fact.
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post Oct 4 2012, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 4 2012, 11:46 AM) *
What is clear:

1 You fail to recognise satire
2 You are sensitive to certain criticisms.
3 If you don't like a post, you are quick to insult (see point 2)


As for not knowing how CCTV works; that is privileged information, but regardless of the technical reasons, the current CCTV has not been helpful in protecting the buildings from theft. That is a fact.

Points 1-3, just like every one else, yourself included, who posts on here.

CCTV catches hardly any crime in progress. Fact. I'd be amazed if it had caught 1-2 blokes climbing scaffolding in the dead of night, or some bold opportunist during the daytime.
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Andy Capp
post Oct 4 2012, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 11:50 AM) *
Points 1-3, just like every one else, yourself included, who posts on here.

No it is not like everyone else, but I have noticed that lately you are numero uno; you seemed to have substituted rational arguments for tiresome and catty posts; even in reply to posts that are not directed at you in person ... or is that the problem; they inadvertently are?

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 11:50 AM) *
CCTV catches hardly any crime in progress. Fact. I'd be amazed if it had caught 1-2 blokes climbing scaffolding in the dead of night, or some bold opportunist during the daytime.

So my post is correct?
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post Oct 4 2012, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 4 2012, 12:54 PM) *
So my post is correct?

Partly. You seem to think it is a problem with Newbury's CCTV. It isn't. It is a problem with all CCTV.
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post Oct 4 2012, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 4 2012, 12:54 PM) *
No it is not like everyone else, but I have noticed that lately you are numero uno; you seemed to have substituted rational arguments for tiresome and catty posts; even in reply to posts that are not directed at you in person ... or is that the problem; they inadvertently are?


Maybe my patience is wearing thin. Same old, same old on this forum.........

Tiresome? Stick me on ignore.
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Andy Capp
post Oct 4 2012, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 12:55 PM) *
Partly. You seem to think it is a problem with Newbury's CCTV. It isn't. It is a problem with all CCTV.

But it is a problem with our system, but it makes you wonder why they are so popular if it is commonly known that they are so ineffective. Or is it maybe because it is not CCTV that is problem, but the application?
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Andy Capp
post Oct 4 2012, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 12:57 PM) *
Maybe my patience is wearing thin. Same old, same old on this forum.........

Tiresome? Stick me on ignore.

If your patience has worn so thin, perhaps you might consider your own advice.
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post Oct 4 2012, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 4 2012, 01:03 PM) *
If your patience has worn so thin, perhaps you might consider your own advice.

Why I am not bothered by it.

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post Oct 4 2012, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 12:55 PM) *
Partly. You seem to think it is a problem with Newbury's CCTV. It isn't. It is a problem with all CCTV.


You may be correct that it is a problem with all CCTV; but only Newbury made me pay a contribution for a system that at worst does not work and at best is no better in solving crime than the old cheaper system.
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Andy Capp
post Oct 4 2012, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2012, 01:05 PM) *
Why I am not bothered by it.

Being honest to yourself is the first step towards recovery.


Anyway, what about Newbury's rubbish CCTV system. They don't even have a better idea than a 5 day window of when the event occurred. I'd have thought an avid CCTV monitoring operative might have at least cast a gaze over the building site once during the week, considering scaffolds offer opportunist easy access to things they might not otherwise consider. Or is that maybe another reason why, perhaps there aren't any operatives to do it.
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post Oct 4 2012, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 4 2012, 01:10 PM) *
I'd have thought an avid CCTV monitoring operative might have at least cast a gaze over the building site once during the week, considering scaffolds offer opportunist easy access to things they might not otherwise consider. Or is that maybe another reason why, perhaps there aren't any operatives to do it.

CCTV isn't like something out of Mission Impossible.

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post Oct 4 2012, 12:41 PM
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Perhaps we ought to think about rasing our sights for Community Radio. I'm actually being serious - what would be wrong with broadcasting the pictures from the cameras on line? I'm sure we could find a few bob for anyone who managed to spot and report a successful prosecution. What might seem mind blowingly boring to us, might not be to others.


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post Oct 4 2012, 02:15 PM
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Unless CCTV has sophisticated software that raises an alarm when suspicious movement is detected where it shouldn't be, it's only as effective as the people who operate it, and how attentive and alert they are.

I am no expert in the matter, but I think I am stating the obvious.
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