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post Jun 11 2017, 06:41 AM
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Magnanimous in victory, our winning PM is straight into talks with Ulsters DUP. At long last, this provincial guardian of true Tory values will join hands with the main party and we'll be able to rid ourselves of the trendy Wendy right on thinking that has adversly affected Conservative policy for at least a decade. Rejoice, Rejoice.


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post Jun 11 2017, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 11 2017, 07:41 AM) *
Magnanimous in victory, our winning PM is straight into talks with Ulsters DUP. At long last, this provincial guardian of true Tory values will join hands with the main party and we'll be able to rid ourselves of the trendy Wendy right on thinking that has adversly affected Conservative policy for at least a decade. Rejoice, Rejoice.

Our nutters on here love it. Imagine the outrage if Labour formed a coalition with the SNP, much less Sinn Fein. The difference is the UDR are "our" terrorists. Even if they targeted people because of their religion. Remind you of anyone?
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post Jun 11 2017, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 11 2017, 08:07 AM) *
Our nutters on here love it. Imagine the outrage if Labour formed a coalition with the SNP, much less Sinn Fein. The difference is the UDR are "our" terrorists. Even if they targeted people because of their religion. Remind you of anyone?


Calm down dear. I dont think May should be doing any deals with the UDR. I think we should have another election. Hopefully someone will then get a mandate. May should resign. Another Tory leader. Corbyn v whoever. Corbyn could then get in and I could sit back and watch the entertainment. Be sooo funny....
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post Jun 11 2017, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 11 2017, 08:07 AM) *
Our nutters on here love it. Imagine the outrage if Labour formed a coalition with the SNP, much less Sinn Fein. The difference is the UDR are "our" terrorists. Even if they targeted people because of their religion. Remind you of anyone?

What's the problem? You got what you voted for, a country run by a government with terrorist connections​. End of problem.
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post Jun 11 2017, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 11 2017, 10:01 AM) *
What's the problem? You got what you voted for, a country run by a government with terrorist connections​. End of problem.

I find it interesting that you're cool with it. Ok as long as they are slaughtering catholics?
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post Jun 11 2017, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 11 2017, 10:55 AM) *
I find it interesting that you're cool with it. Ok as long as they are slaughtering catholics?

What a wally you are newres.
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post Jun 11 2017, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 11 2017, 11:09 AM) *
What a wally you are newres.

Tell me why that is? Je suis accepts that the UDP's have terrorist connections but he doesn't mind yet his moniker is a reference to his feelings about Muslim terrorists. Odd? No??
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post Jun 11 2017, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 11 2017, 11:16 AM) *
Tell me why that is? Je suis accepts that the UDP's have terrorist connections but he doesn't mind yet his moniker is a reference to his feelings about Muslim terrorists. Odd? No??

Try reading this, or if it's too big, get someone to read it for you.

https://order-order.com/2017/06/08/100-time...b603b-229990137
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post Jun 11 2017, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 11 2017, 12:26 PM) *
Try reading this, or if it's too big, get someone to read it for you.

https://order-order.com/2017/06/08/100-time...b603b-229990137

I'm not doubting he was sympathetic to the Irish republicans. I don't think that's really in doubt. So am I. The issue is your hypocrisy.
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post Jun 11 2017, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 11 2017, 12:26 PM) *
Try reading this, or if it's too big, get someone to read it for you.

https://order-order.com/2017/06/08/100-time...b603b-229990137


Nah.. JC is a god. All hail JC. He is without doubt the most wonderful human being ever. I am actually looking forward to his government. It is going to be so funny. Watching all the youngsters see the dreams they have crumble and die. No life experience. No idea.
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post Jun 11 2017, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 11 2017, 12:37 PM) *
I'm not doubting he was sympathetic to the Irish republicans. I don't think that's really in doubt. So am I. The issue is your hypocrisy.

Yeah, I could lead the labour party.
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post Jun 11 2017, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 11 2017, 01:02 PM) *
Yeah, I could lead the labour party.

Fundamentally anyone could. Give everyone what they want. And stuff the consequences.
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post Jun 11 2017, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 11 2017, 01:19 PM) *
Fundamentally anyone could. Give everyone what they want. And stuff the consequences.

As opposed to giving the right wing nut jobs want they want and stuff the consequences.
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post Jun 11 2017, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 11 2017, 01:21 PM) *
As opposed to giving the right wing nut jobs want they want and stuff the consequences.


One question. Do you think Corbys economic policies are credible?
What do you think will happen if he implements them?
Please educate me.😂
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post Jun 11 2017, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 11 2017, 01:23 PM) *
One question. Do you think Corbys economic policies are credible?
What do you think will happen if he implements them?
Please educate me.😂

What were they? Talk me through them.
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post Jun 11 2017, 12:44 PM
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If you are the opposition with not much chance of winning then make all sorts of promises which as a government you could not possibly keep. It doesn't matter because on the day, you can continue to say we would have done all these things to make life lovely for the infirm, the young and the low income tax payers. You will if you are just credible, increase your majority and be able to make the electorate believe in you for the next round of voting, sooner or later.
As the party who will probably win, you can't make promises you can't keep unless they are little ones that won't damage your credibility when you do a U turn. However, it doesn't mean that you should run a crap campaign.

Personally, even as a Tory voter I got so P1ssed off hearing TM at her low turnout bashes, continually bleating on about a hard brexit, whatever that is and her me me me attitude.

JC really cranked it up at the end.
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post Jun 11 2017, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 11 2017, 01:42 PM) *
What were they? Talk me through them.

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post Jun 11 2017, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 11 2017, 01:42 PM) *
What were they? Talk me through them.


Do you not know? You are his biggest fan
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post Jun 11 2017, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 11 2017, 01:23 PM) *
One question. Do you think Corbys economic policies are credible?
What do you think will happen if he implements them?
Please educate me.��


Yes, just as much as its credible for youngsters who have a mortgage take out more credit to buy furniture. What would happen if they were implemented, well, we woukdn't need so many overseas immigrants to bolster the NHS because we'd have trained our home people. Similarly, we'd have less need to rely on overseas IT expertise because we'd be training our own. Just two examples which would reduce university costs because companies would be encouraged to train their own workers. Far fewer complaints about lack of homes because there would be strong house market with fair prices regulated by an equally strong rented sector with fair rents. Cheaper energy bills but comfortable heating / cooling centred on an integrated sustainable energy approach....,, could go on and on but haven't got all afternoon.

Who pays? Better management of public spending as mentioned above. Diversion of funds from traditional but wholly outdated defence. Eliminating rat holes in taxation legislation and better drafted rules, etc.etc.etc.

Europe? What's wrong with putting our baseball bat down and trying to have the debate with EU Cameron was supposed to have had before the referendum? We already know Germany is up for reform..


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post Jun 11 2017, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 11 2017, 02:55 PM) *
Yes, just as much as its credible for youngsters who have a mortgage take out more credit to buy furniture. What would happen if they were implemented, well, we woukdn't need so many overseas immigrants to bolster the NHS because we'd have trained our home people. Similarly, we'd have less need to rely on overseas IT expertise because we'd be training our own. Just two examples which would reduce university costs because companies would be encouraged to train their own workers. Far fewer complaints about lack of homes because there would be strong house market with fair prices regulated by an equally strong rented sector with fair rents. Cheaper energy bills but comfortable heating / cooling centred on an integrated sustainable energy approach....,, could go on and on but haven't got all afternoon.

Paid for with what? I haven't​ read a single unbiased economist who has said it's achievable in its current form.
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