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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 19 2018, 07:35 AM) *
it is an attempt to avoid passengers boarding a train on which their ticket is not valid and hence encountering a penalty fare or worse.

The tickets rely on a magnetic strip on the back to read data by the gatelines.
If damaged (usually by having them near a mobile phone) they do not work.
Far from perfect I agree, and the railway companies are moving towards "smart ticketing".
Travelcards are single use and would not warrant incorporating the technology of that such as Oyster which are multiple use tokens.


The restriction on the machine then must be seen as GWR not trusting its customers to be reasonable intelligent people. The same effect could easily have been achieved using a banner or such like warning people that off peak trains don't arrive 'till 9.00. But, OK, it's down to a paternalistic attitude.

It's ironic then, that the barrier issue is news to me. Well aware of how the strip works, but not of the need not to keep in proximity to mobile phones etc. Will certainly give that a try and report back. So, again, a simple warning might pay massive service dividends.
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 19 2018, 01:09 AM) *
Are you for real? How on earth can you say "If we take the elephant in the room; immigration, for most average people, if they really think about it, it's not an issue. Overcrowding is, but that is really a separate issue. " How the F can you say immigration has no part in overcrowding? Separate issue? You ARE so MAD! How the **** (Pre stifled) is overcrowding not to do with immigration? I would also add, you missed the, as usual, other elephant.


Yes, I am for real. Sure, we have many people coming here for whatever reason, they come in waves and have done throughout history. Sure, ;new' people distress those already here, they always have. So, unless you can overcome the fact that there will always be new people arriving, you are always going to be discontented. Most people realise that and start to get along with the new people they encounter. Yes, its a two way street, but it does happen. The process is far more painful and takes far longer when the infrastructures we have don't support even the existing population therein the rub.

So, take this town - if 'immigration' is actually an issue full stop, how do we stop people from Reading moving here; let alone the hordes of new people from the London suburbs who will arrive to take advantage of the new homes going up? More to the point, how are you going to keep your family together for as long as you are around in the confines of Newbury? How will you influence your employer not to let any foreign national onto the payroll?

Do you know the maximum number the Country can take? Conversely, do we want all other nations to adopt the same attitudes? If so, there are a good few residents of Spain in for a nasty surprise.
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 18 2018, 08:46 PM) *
Off peak tickets can be purchased from the machines well before the first off peak train. ( I think it's about 20 mins).
Why would you need to buy one before that?
And if you do, just see a person.
Travelcards will operate all TFL barriers. (Unless you damage it)!!!


If the product is on general sale, why should it be restricted? Isn't it an arrogance on behalf of GWR to assume it can dictate my purchasing arangements. I agree, I can see a person, but that seems to fly in the face of the automation GWR are trying to get me to accept. Frankly, I don't like using the machines and would far rather be served by a person. Why can't GWR properly resource ticket offices at peak times?

As for damaging tickets, I keep mine in a stiff clean wallet and because I've mentioned this to a good few colleagues, it's not just me. Odd really, SWR sourced tickets work at GW barriers and I've kept an Oyster card operating since they were first issued.
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 18 2018, 08:53 PM) *
And not to mention the OP.


If we take the elephant in the room; immigration, for most average people, if they really think about it, it's not an issue. Overcrowding is, but that is really a separate issue. From my experience, so long as they can access acceptable health care, can secure and maintain a reasonable home, secure and keep a reasonable job with the prospect of a suitable pension on retirement and are able to send their kids to a school which is able to give them an appropriate start in life commensurate with their abilities, they don't really care who lives next door - always providing they don't do anything to disturb the peace. Not much to ask but that's it.

Unfortunately, when any of the above are missing, the easiest culprit are incomers. We've e en seen it here in Newbury, local homes for local people; which for some, included people from Reading or Basingstoke!

So, in simple terms, all politicians need to deliver, which is that list. Give it to any party and they'll tell you that's what they are doing. However, they really aren't - hence the 'immigration issue'.

Arguably, upholding British issues ought to encourage immigrants as good for economic growth. That's what we did after all. Look at Australia and New Zealand for instance, it was British immigrants who built those economies. Admittedly, the indigenous populations weren't over happy....
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 18 2018, 05:59 PM) *
I didn’t get past her opening statement around the number of immigrants in there being unknown. Did she make any points that would be helpful?

I worry about someone who spends so much time on the internet watching extremists.


I can accept that, but it was a strong view right from the start. So, if we took the immigrant out if the equation a real issue can be seen. That is, overcrowding. This is particularly rife in the lower end of the rental market where landlords, in the main small landlords, seek to maximise income from inappropriate property. For instance (something I've been fighting) many university towns have poor quality but high cost student accommodation - generally comprising of small family homes, cheaply divided, poorly furnished and serviced. Often operated by small buy to let landlords.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 18 2018, 05:29 PM) *
That may be true, but it brings our democracy into disrepute.


Wholly agree; the way they carry on, that seems to be Tory policy.
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 18 2018, 07:51 PM) *
I'll keep trying!! rolleyes.gif
The machine would quite clearly say if it was a peak "anytime" ticket.
If you press that button then it will assume that that is the ticket that you require.
You did not say if you bought the ticket during or after the morning peak.
It may be that someone needs to buy an anytime ticket after the morning peak period as they may wish to return during the evening peak.
If you need an "off peak" ticket during morning peak hours then you have to speak to a person.
AC and OTE please explain why the machine "missold" your ticket and why it " failed to deliver basic customer service standards."
As I said, the machine sold you what you asked for!


You've given the answer Biker, if I want to buy an off peak ticket in the morning peak travel period, why do I have to see a person? Why can't I just buy one? There are a good few reasons why I'd want to. For instance, do railway management think it somehow immoral to catch an unreliable bus into Newbury and so arrive in good time, purchase an off peak ticket and then sit in the station cafe for coffee until the off peak train arrives? That's just one reason.

The ticket machines are computer configured so someone makes the rules - that someone clearly either concerned that cheeky travellers will jump on a train with an off peak ticket and not be checked by an on train inspector or at the exit gate, or realises that many people will simply pay up.

Automatic ticket production isn't a strong suit for GWR is it? Foolishly, I often have a travel card added to my Paddington ticket. Will it operate the Underground or the Waterloo barriers? No. Are those barriers effectively resourced, No. I complained (vigorously) last week. The TfL answer was sorry, some train operators have poor ticket printing facilities.

Now, ticketing isn't affected by electrification but does and always did affect customer service.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 18 2018, 09:20 AM) *
Having a definitive law means flexibility to adjust penalties for the specific offence. Thr Tory burk hasn’t done himself or his party an favours.


Quite right, but he's been on this trip for quite a while and other such issues have similarly crashed because of his input. Yes, on the face of it he's a Tory Burk, BUT his mates on the Tory benches are even more so; they should have stopped him several years back. Leads me to think he's simply a fall guy for the party; who want to be seen to be supporting popukar causes and then quietly stangeling them when no one is thought to be looking.

In strictly legal terms, this would have been bad law and almost unenforceable. Proper parliamentary scrutiny would have made it work - that's what he was trying to do.
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There are a large number of critical questions that ought to be addressed in the light of this disaster. Building controls being just one. Material approval, landlord responsibilities, emergency service processes, evacuation procedures, etc, etc,etc. Plus the matters relating to occupancy, sub letting and so forth. And that's without looking at the rationale and approvals for doing the 'improvements' in the first place.

Sweeping any of these issues under the carpet would be wrong, and the fear of that being done, is probably the reason for the disquiet about the 'official enquiry'. Such things have a long history of being used as official whitewash.

So, I'd argue that whilst Katie Hopkins might hold views I vehemently disagree with, it's absolutely right that she gives voice to them, particularly as they are shared by a large number of people.

None of the issues must be lost and all should be thoroughly investigated. If not, we will have another Hillsborough.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 18 2018, 01:56 PM) *
It there for missold me: it is not necessary to have a peak rate ticket when there are no peak rate trains to catch.

A GWR Rip-off.

And doesn’t the POS machine default to singles and returns on the home page! 😡


Actually, have to agree with you. I've been caught as have a couple of colleagues. On making a complaint, the explanation Biker has given is trotted out. I'm trying to decide if this indicates railway service managers are just thick or deliberatly deceitful.

It's this continued failure to deliver basic customer service standards, that are in no way dependent on investment or mode of traction, leading a lot of us to realise that nothing will improve with electrification and the project is just another monumental waste of money.

The auto ticket machines are supposed to enable unstaffed stations, clearly the same railway management attitude believing 'IT' will enable single operator trains. Littlecwonder the drivers keep striking!
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I've got a sneaking sympathy for Master Chope. He's been well and truly shafted by his Tiry mates,simply so they can 'look cool' - no surprises there though. Although he's probably got the rationale well and truly muddled, in essence, he's right. We really don't need a new specific law, we have sufficient remedy already. Creating a new and very specific law would simply encourage the continued inept and unintelligent behaviour of todays senior police and prosecuting lawyers. The offence is already covered because it can be considered and outrage to public decency. It's exactly the same as capturing on film people using the loo etc. Ok the maximum penalty might need lifting, but the offence is covered already. So, Master Chope should have suggested that size twelves need applying to a few policemen, whilst a good few CPS people could do with some intensive re education.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 14 2018, 11:37 PM) *
All week the trains have been sht. Currently the 21:32 is ‘Delayed’. Thank you for the insightful and informative status.

Bringing you more seats and faster trains.... any’ll do!


So, when the railways were privatised, we were told that private money would bring us far better management and so far better service. Now, some three decades on, after all that money had been invested, what's changed? We still have far too many strikes, far too many service delays, far too many breakdowns. The only 'improvement' seems to be that a few senior managers now get rewards that would 'bring a blush to the cheeks of a Barbary pirate'! What happens when the much heralded 'electrification project' is complete? I think we a ready know; delays, strikes, breakdowns but a nice big bonus for the boss.

Triples all round!



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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 13 2018, 11:27 AM) *
I'd vote Labour in a flash, in fact I have done twice in recent times. And once for the greens at the locals. I work in Manchester so voted up here in my weekday address which is a different demograph of people.

If we didn't have religion we wouldn't have half these problems, I was told by a Tommy Supporter the other day that you "don't hear of paedophilia in the C of E, or catholic church do you?"

So as much as I am a fairly liberal, left leaning individual, I am totally against Islam. But I am also against all churches and religions, and group that associates with them. Governmental, or otherwise. Seperate church and state, make religions pay tax and stop the undue influence they have and all this goes away.


Thought provoking response - I'd forgotten the Greens, who on the face of it have some pretty good ideas. The religious bit is interesting, as we know, paedophilia / sexual abuse was (is?) rampant in many organisations, not just the church. The BBC, Council Homes, Junior Football clubs, Schools large and small etc, etc, etc. - arguably the common thread (obvious when you think about it) anywhere the victims are and the perpetrator has access, From my perspective, to use this crime as the reason for disestablishment is too far a leap, separation of church and state has its own argument and indeed a good few church goers would wholly agree and ironically believe that the existing set up is actually damaging to their beliefs. I wholly agree that there should be no special privilege in taxation, then I believe that should apply to all, public schools, charities, population segments too, However, there are several examples of secular states; that is, where all religion is suppressed. The Soviet regime, the German Reich, the Chinese communism. and today, North Korea. All of which have pretty disgusting records which match and in many cases exceed the abuses perpetrated by non secular states.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 13 2018, 07:49 AM) *
I couldn’t vote for a prospective cabinet which includes Abbott and McDonnell.


Yes, the camp followers are a problem all round really. I suspect I would simply spoil my ballot paper. With the Tories you get the likes of Soames and Johnson. And a LibDem coalition wouldn't improve matters; look what happened last time, most of their unknown offerings simply collapsed. Not quite sure how we get people with integrity and intelligence to stand, let alone lead. Let's face it, UKIP made a valiant effort, but has now all but collapsed.
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If there was an election tomorrow, I'm not sure I'd give my vote to Richard B, now he seems to be under Nick Soames influence, I couldn't bring myself to vote LibDem, which (unless there is a realistic independent) leaves Labour; internal squabbles apart, they appear to have some decent policy ideas. These were tested by BBC's Gyles Brandreth in a vox pop asking true blue Guildford voters what they thought of some of them - with positive results. So, right now, I can see myself voting Labour.
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 12 2018, 04:55 PM) *
Maybe this is why the Labour party have a growing support? After all they can not be accused of having a coherent policy, (good or bad).
Let's face it society is becoming increasingly vile and whatever the cause may be it can only lead to the eventual breakdown of that which most hold dear.


Yes, a sad indictment on today's society. Of course, the bigger the following, the bigger the list. Worth looking at the leaders though, LibDems have even suffered a soap! Nonetheless, I don't think any major party has had significant leaders gaoled for violent affray. Frankly, it's high time we demanded far more from our 'leaders' all of them.
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 12 2018, 09:23 AM) *
TR never encourages violence and he left the EDL years ago.


Yes, I agree, 2011 he left the organisation he founded and so surely set its values and objectives. He seems to have been in and out of a good few political parties and groupings, which in anyone else would suggest he's having massive difficulty in securing and sustaining support. From what I can make out, he's now operating as what could be described as a militant investigative reporter. I must also say his way of not encouraging violence is unusual to say the least.

It has to be said that the UKs ever growing population is creating siuations causing grave concern to many people and severe financial measures have significantly excaserbated the issue. Yet the mainstream political parties seem unwilling to properly address these issues. Sadly, one of the main reasons for this failure is the ugly behaviour of those perporting to get the issue properly discussed.

If the issue is to gain any traction at all; joining and attempting to influence mass political movements must be the way forward.
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 11 2018, 03:34 PM) *
And so, the publicly self designated thought police get enrolled locally. The Stazi did this. Get the locals to make other locals "aware" and follow the line. There has already been an example of a wife's views resulting in her husband being sacked.


Certainly no threat. Those claiming that free speech is a British value are only partly correct. If we really did have total free speech, we wouldn't have Speakers Corner - there would be no need. Equally, free speech works both ways - those who feel that things said are unpleasant and nasty must also be free to express themselves too. For my part, I've certainly no objection to people holding or indeed promoting what I might consider obnoxious views and will respond. So, that's free speech; it works both ways.

In this particular thread, surely you must recognise that the methods Tommy Robinson uses to promote his views follow exactly the methods adopted to set up the Soviet state - violent agitation - look at the EDL's website.
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2018, 04:50 PM) *
Libtard in insult shocker when hoisted by his own petard.


Just a friendly word. Given your stated senior position in a prestige IT fim; it would be wise to consider moderating your responses, if not your views. I'm sure you'll appreciate how you present yourself here isn't likely to be helpful to your firm or your profession.
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 9 2018, 12:31 AM) *
One failed case might look like good news for the liberals but when set in its fuller context:

Oxford 2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_sex_gang
Old Bailey court. Offences 2004-12. Convicted 2013. More than 300 victims from 12 yo/7 Muslim men convicted, aged 27-38. Gang leaders Eritean, others Pakistani. Bradford, Leeds, London, Slough, Bournemouth. Judge: “a series of sexual crimes of the utmost depravity”. Operation Bullfinch. Zeeshan Ahmed jailed for 18 months for perverting the course of justice by threatening to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. In July 2017 Oxford multi-millionaire Tariq Khuja lost his court battle to keep his name out of the media reports about this trial. He was never charged

• Oxford 2014
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/11263177...n_teenage_girl/
Oxford court. Victim 17 yo/Three abusers 26-28 yo Palestinian asylum seekers. Jailed 18, 18 and 42 months for sexual assault. One abuser had threatened to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. Palestinian. To be deported on release.

• Oxford 2016 (1)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14605684...ctim_in_Oxford/
Oxford court. Victim 14 yo (social skills of a 7 yo)/2 abusers now 34 & 37 yo convicted on rape and prostitution charges. Offences in 2005-07. Cocaine and alcohol. Simultaneous rape. Judge: “She was just an object to satisfy your lust. Over a number of months you deliberately groomed this girl.” Iffley. Thames Valley Police

• Oxford 2016 (2)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-36526128 http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14755110..._Sabaton_trial/
Oxford court. Victims 13 and 15 yo/Abusers 30-46 yo. Abuse from 1999-2007 and 2007-09. Convictions for: rape, indecent assault, making a threat to kill, supply of heroin and cocaine. Also, on 3 Nov 2016, for taking indecent pictures of a child. Defendants denied all charges. Some acquittals after one victim insisted her participation was consensual. Operation Sabaton.

• Oxford 2016 (3)
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/14803181....ith_schoolgirl/
Old Bailey. Victim 14/Abuser now 28. Offences 2008-2011. Accused of multiple rapes and sexual activity with a child over two years. Convicted only of sexual activity with a child. Jailed for 8 months

• Oxford 2017 (1) – trial set for 18 April 2017
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14915396...r_sex_offences/
Oxford Court. Seven accused. Operation Rolo. Trial date 18 April 2017

• Oxford 2017 (2) – trials set for September 2017 (6 men) and January 2018 (11 men)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/15191943...urt_after_raid/
Oxford Court. 3 victims/17 accused. Offences 2008-2015. Banbury, Operation Nautical

• Oxford 2017 (3)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/15339807..._abuse_charges/
Oxford Court. Victims include 14-16 year-olds/ 14 men charged, 35-55 yo. 36 charges for offences 1998-2005. Men from Oxford, Birmingham, Bolton, Cowley. Prosecutor: “This case concerns sexual exploitation on a massive scale. Routine, cynical and predatory sexual exploitation.” Trial expected to finish early 2018

There are now 170 known completed trials with convictions for rape jihad offences at 68 main locations.
And perhaps this snippet goes part way of why such cases fail, and I quote: "One abuser had threatened to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. Palestinian. To be deported on release."


Yes, quite dreadful and no one denies that. Nonetheless, the issue has been identified and actions are already in hand designed to deal with the issue. It's no different at all to crimes committed by identifiable population segments, when they are recognised, action is taken. So again, as a court case was underway and wider investigations / corrective actions being put in place, Tommy Robinson's intervention will be seen by many as wholly unnecessary. If he had other aims what are they?
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 8 2018, 06:34 PM) *
Just because you cant get a conviction doesn't mean someone isn't guilty. Guilty in the eyes of the law... no. But witness intimidation can go anlong way to proving your "innocence". But hey you invite these lovely fellas round to play with your kids. 😘


So who decides someone is guilty? Bit worrying old son, I thought you were wholly against 'independent' legal systems, preferring British justice. Remember, radicalisation works both ways; good old Tommy is beginning to look a bit like another rabble rouser we eventually got rid of; all he needs to complete the picture is an eye patch and a hook.
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 5 2018, 08:52 PM) *
Without the wanton suffering that is going on and has been for 1300 years, there would be no Tommy Robinson.


But his past record suggests otherwise; he likes a ruck, any ruck. It's this that's counter productive to any values based organisation lent his support.
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Eeek! the leafy suburb commuters have been de bagging the party placement over this rail nonsense. How do we run this one into the sidings.......

An independent enquiry!

What will it say? As a public spirited gesture, here is a draft management summary Mr Grayling can use for free.

'The failure of the operators to implement their timetable changes was wholly down to the incompetence of Netwirk Rail, who, are useless at project management because they are a monopoly exactly like the old British Rail. What is needed is for the track and operation to be brought together just like the model created by the revised East coast arrangements the government have already put in hand. So we are already delivering the solution and giving it a name that even train buffs like. '

So that's all ok then, just in time for next election...
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 5 2018, 06:11 AM) *
Sorry but I agree with that statement. I'd change it thiugh to ALL religions are bad for humanity. Anyone who believes in Sky fairies is in my mind lumped in with "flat earthers". Basically you beleive in something that is not logical.


Odd that some most if the worst excesses of last centuary were inflicted by regimes holding exactly that view. Perhaps the reports coming out of Nortn Korea are wrong. As to the matter in question here; I don't think anyone would disagree the sick abuse Robinson is apparently complaining about should have been stamped out far earlier and that the perpetrators were Muslim. Nonetheless, exactly the same could have been applied to other and exactly similar outrages. Perhaps we missed the reports of Tommy Robinson's fight to get Liberal Democracy banned or the BBC shut down?
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To keep coming up with excuses to protect an ideology that is in all ways bad for humanity is, to me unacceptable. Why are the leftie libtards still voicing for child rapists. YES, you are complicit. I would not want your child to go through what they do but if it did, your political views would sway within minutes. You shoud be so ashamed of yourselves. Wake up and sod off.


As Thomas Jefferson said; question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear.

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