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Jul 24 2011, 11:31 AM
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Before doing anything, seek legal advice, CAB or whatever and being humble is your only defence at this stage. You are right though, some shop mangers are idiots, but you were stupid to iron your dirty washing in 'public'. Your 'friend' deserves a slap as well, the scab. If you get sacked, make sure you go public and name the grass as well.
Although you have already learned the hard way, never type anything in an email, forum, Internet site that you are not prepared for anyone to read.
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Jul 24 2011, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (Decarix @ Jul 24 2011, 12:39 PM) I feel it is only fair to my other colleagues to know what type of people they are working with and that they need to watch what they say around this grass because they will run back to managers seemingly just to get people in trouble. If you think it is only fair to tell your colleagues what you think of them, because the management are your colleagues also, stand by what you said and stop whining.
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Jul 24 2011, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (Decarix @ Jul 24 2011, 12:39 PM) This amounted to frustration which I had to put on facebook so people would agree with me. Sorry to pick one sentence out and comment on it but reading this it seems you were trying to create some sort of mutiny against your management by using Facebook. When you were thinking that "people would agree with me" perhaps you would have done better to think what reaction it might have on those that didn't agree with you and perhaps they might interpret your actions as I did in my first sentence.
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Jul 24 2011, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (Decarix @ Jul 24 2011, 01:10 PM) If you had a bad experience in work you'd keep it to yourself? You wouldn't then go and seek solace in a friend or family member?
Solace is the word I should have used, not agree. Yes of course - most people would seek support or advice - however the best way to do it is quietly and with discretion - one to one. But don't shout it out in front of a "room" full of other people - which is in essence what you did on facebook. As others have said - it's not private, you're very naive if you think it is - I'm not sure how many "friends" you have on there, and how well you know them all, but they will all have seen it, and are likely to all know where you work, so will know who you are referring to. They in turn can easily share it with their "friends". I agree with some other comments here - the best way forward would be to apologise, say you've learnt your lesson and hope they might give you a second chance - if you have the examplary record you say you have then they might just do that. But continuing to air your greivances on here - a public forum, is probably not the best way to show your remorse.
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Jul 24 2011, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Decarix @ Jul 24 2011, 01:10 PM) As I said, I did talk to my managers about my frustrations and concerns and nothing came of it. Well then in my view you had two choices (unless they were breaking employment law), accept it or move on. Even the best, most accommodating manager can't agree with all his staff all the time and sometimes one needs to accept that they're carrying out a course of action that they don't agree with. This could be anything from investing millions in the "wrong" hedge fund to stacking beans in the "wrong" place. Making your feelings known publicly as you have done could be interpreted as unprofessional.
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Jul 24 2011, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 24 2011, 03:00 PM) Well then in my view you had two choices (unless they were breaking employment law), accept it or move on.
Even the best, most accommodating manager can't agree with all his staff all the time and sometimes one needs to accept that they're carrying out a course of action that they don't agree with. This could be anything from investing millions in the "wrong" hedge fund to stacking beans in the "wrong" place.
Making your feelings known publicly as you have done could be interpreted as unprofessional. Just an aside - I suspect there are a good few staff who used to work for banks or certain newspapers who wished colleagues had been so unprofessional. For instance, Sir Fred Goodwin might still be just junior teller ....
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Jul 24 2011, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (factsonly @ Jul 24 2011, 02:39 PM) OP, I think you probably know full well this wasn't your one and only "dig" at you managers. I suspect your a serial winger and trouble maker and this was the last straw.
As other have said, learn from it and be grateful if your lucky enough to get another job.
You are aware that you have no "right" to a job - aren't you? Actually it was my one and only. Actually I do have an exemplary record full of two seperate recommendations to become a manager myself within a year (that's gone out the window even if I do only receive a final warning) I have never had any trouble and never create it. I offer overtime and help with other things where possible. I have been trusted in training new staff and when they start they ask me to show them around because of their confidence in me. I have the right to work thank you and considering I do not scrounge off the governemnt and I am not happy to sit at home and spend other peoples money on cheap booze and in fact will not for as long as I can help it. I think your quick judgement on this situation and only reason for posting on here to create a negative reaction tells us all we need to know about the type of person you are and your attitude towards work. I am a bl00dy hard worker and this is why I am so upset over the reproccusions for making such a small mistake.
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Jul 24 2011, 11:17 PM
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Thank you all so much for your help on this matter. I'm off to seek advice from all sorts of places tomorrow, I will let you know the outcome. D x
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Jul 25 2011, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 24 2011, 03:13 PM) Despite the uncaring attitude from others, I understand your problem. You could lose your job for a 'simple' mistake. Actually there are formal dismissal processes that have to be upheld by law and the incident described on it's own does not sound like an instant dismissal item. I suspect that there may be more to this if the employer is taking such drastic action. QUOTE Personally, I wish you could screw them, because those shops treat their employees like sh1te. A bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?
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Jul 25 2011, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 25 2011, 01:34 PM) Actually there are formal dismissal processes that have to be upheld by law and the incident described on it's own does not sound like an instant dismissal item. I suspect that there may be more to this if the employer is taking such drastic action. If it is the shop I think it is, then it is not surprising at all. QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 25 2011, 01:34 PM) A bit of a sweeping statement don't you think? Maybe...just speaking from experience!
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Jul 25 2011, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (Decarix @ Jul 25 2011, 02:19 PM) Apparently it is considered gross misconduct and thus is eligable for a summary dismissal And being less than a year into the job makes it even worse, I would imagine. Many companies have conduct rule, that is to say, that one is obliged to speak about the company only in good light. For you to be dismissed in the manner you claim would sound harsh, but possible.
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