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Simon Kirby
post May 30 2013, 09:42 PM
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Whiny letter in today's Newbury Weekly from the Town Council's David Allen. According to the council Victoria Park is good to go and we need to stop complaining about the state of it, though he accepts it can't be improved until the cracks dispute is resolved.

Rather than blather in the letters page what I think we need to see is the hydrogeological report. no more excuses, let us judge for ourselves how prudently the council have managed this affair.

And if the damage has been repaired then what's the value in pursuing legal action - if indeed the council is pursuing anything, because there's zip-all sign of progress.

It seems really unlikely that they'll ever recover their legal costs now, and they're likely to be much more than any possible settlement. Remember, this is the council that spent £10k evicting an allotmenteer over what they'll tell you was a £20 rent arrears, and I think this is the same kind of snafu.


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post May 30 2013, 09:45 PM
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Will the last one on the forum please turn the lights out?
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post May 30 2013, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ May 30 2013, 10:45 PM) *
Will the last one on the forum please turn the lights out?

Care to address the OP?


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post May 31 2013, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ May 30 2013, 10:45 PM) *
Will the last one on the forum please turn the lights out?

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post May 31 2013, 08:41 AM
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I think that Simon has a point.
If they spent £10k chasing him over £20, why wouldn't they spend £10k to improve a very busy park, especially in Summer.
It was heaving at the Crafty Raft.


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post May 31 2013, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (motormad @ May 31 2013, 09:41 AM) *
I think that Simon has a point.
If they spent £10k chasing him over £20, why wouldn't they spend £10k to improve a very busy park, especially in Summer.
It was heaving at the Crafty Raft.

I think they have.
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post May 31 2013, 11:22 AM
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Simon, I think the local councillors are just grateful that most people don't care and provided those that do, vote for them (which is what happens), then they can carry on with their stuff.
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post May 31 2013, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 31 2013, 09:56 AM) *
I think they have.


A further 10k.


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post May 31 2013, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE (motormad @ May 31 2013, 12:29 PM) *
A further 10k.

I think they are.


Not to mention the significant sum spent in Goldwell Park.
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post May 31 2013, 11:51 AM
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As Mackenzie King said 'Where there is little or no public opinion, there is likely to be bad government, which sooner or later becomes autocratic government.' How very true! Nice to know our dear NTC can now be cited as a text book example.



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post May 31 2013, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ May 31 2013, 12:51 PM) *
As Mackenzie King said 'Where there is little or no public opinion, there is likely to be bad government, which sooner or later becomes autocratic government.' How very true! Nice to know our dear NTC can now be cited as a text book example.

What if in fact public opinion of NTC is very high?
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post May 31 2013, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 31 2013, 12:54 PM) *
What if in fact public opinion of NTC is very high?


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The turnout at the very recent Victoria Ward by election is the only measure of opinion that counts. So you have your answer, the public's opinion of NTC is at an all time low.


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post May 31 2013, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ May 31 2013, 03:16 PM) *
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The turnout at the very recent Victoria Ward by election is the only measure of opinion that counts. So you have your answer, the public's opinion of NTC is at an all time low.

Another way to look at it is to say that folk are so happy with things the way they are they didn't feel the need to vote.

Surely if they we unhappy they would have proved so by voting out the incumbent parties.
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post May 31 2013, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 31 2013, 04:03 PM) *
Another way to look at it is to say that folk are so happy with things the way they are they didn't feel the need to vote.

Surely if they we unhappy they would have proved so by voting out the incumbent parties.


That's the bureaucrats answer - no response must mean yes.

If they really were enthusiastic, they would have turned up in droves to show their support and to vote in who they believed would keep the success. This time they even had a choice, but they simply couldn't be ar**d. In other words, wholly indifferent.

I'd also add some also believe that voting makes absolutely no difference at all. No matter which party gets in. WBC a classic example, elect Tory, get Carter, elect LibDem get Carter; so why bother?


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post May 31 2013, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ May 31 2013, 04:17 PM) *
That's the bureaucrats answer - no response must mean yes.

If they really were enthusiastic, they would have turned up in droves to show their support and to vote in who they believed would keep the success. This time they even had a choice, but they simply couldn't be ar**d. In other words, wholly indifferent.


Is it?

You seem to know more about this kind of thing than me.


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I'd also add some also believe that voting makes absolutely no difference at all. No matter which party gets in. WBC a classic example, elect Tory, get Carter, elect LibDem get Carter; so why bother?


That is why I don't vote. Never have never will.
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post May 31 2013, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 31 2013, 04:20 PM) *
Is it?

You seem to know more about this kind of thing than me.




That is why I don't vote. Never have never will.


Yes it is, I've been employed by too many organisations, public and private, who ask people for a response and say 'no reply will denote your acceptance'.....classic way of increasing your satisfaction survey levels!

Its up to you if you vote or not, but it might be thought a little odd that you seen fond of responding to this forum. In some ways its good to know there are some people about who think we can't improve and our present ways are good.


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post May 31 2013, 03:40 PM
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it is a rather negative forum...
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post May 31 2013, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 31 2013, 04:03 PM) *
Another way to look at it is to say that folk are so happy with things the way they are they didn't feel the need to vote.

Surely if they we unhappy they would have proved so by voting out the incumbent parties.
That's right, whilst the party of the most vocal critic was pushed down to an embarrassing fourth place and last place.
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post May 31 2013, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 31 2013, 04:40 PM) *
it is a rather negative forum...

I'd say as most responses want to and generally suggest how to improve, it's pretty positive. Simply pumping sunshine isn't positive, it's often a cover, so arguably negative. The very nature of quick electronic discourse doesn't permit florid language and overt courtesy.


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post May 31 2013, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ May 31 2013, 05:38 PM) *
That's right, whilst the party of the most vocal critic was pushed down to an embarrassing fourth place and last place.

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Aaah thanks for that illuminating response! Most of the meat in my Tesco burger was beef!

Any thoughts on what kept the vast majority away from the polling station? Give you a clue, they aren't all over the moon with NDC,


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