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> Halal, why should we put up with this?, If fox hunting with dogs is outlawed, why not Halal?
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post Feb 22 2018, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 22 2018, 09:38 PM) *
Rabbits, .22 rifle with a good marksman. Simple, quick, humane. Alternatively, if you can find the burrows then ferrets do a good job.

Hares, best walked up with a 12 bore.

Rats, a good air rifle, again using a marksman, for the above reasons.

Deer, again, rifle.



Agreed.

I do my own rats with air rifle, night vision etc. I keep chickens and they free range.


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post Feb 22 2018, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2018, 06:08 PM) *
Perhaps farming is inherently cruel. Perhaps we should only take from the wild.



Perhaps you could let us know what we should do?

Did you see what I did there? rolleyes.gif



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post Feb 22 2018, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Feb 22 2018, 10:15 PM) *
Perhaps you could let us know what we should do?

Did you see what I did there? rolleyes.gif


Omnivores. Funny word that. Almost a biological clue. I don't want to eat animals that have suffered and yes I think all people that eat meat should experience killing an animal humanely so they know what is involved and what it feels like. Its all to easy to pick it up from the supermarket without thinking about the process that has got it to the shelf. I know I am gulity of that. But... I do like a steak.
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post Feb 22 2018, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 22 2018, 10:30 PM) *
Omnivores. Funny word that. Almost a biological clue. I don't want to eat animals that have suffered and yes I think all people that eat meat should experience killing an animal humanely so they know what is involved and what it feels like. Its all to easy to pick it up from the supermarket without thinking about the process that has got it to the shelf. I know I am guilty of that. But... I do like a steak.



Did you see the programme a couple of years ago where an audience were sitting in on the HUMANE slaughter of lambs, or possibly goats, from farm to plate? The whole process was shown. Stun, kill and butcher, then cook.

I'm sure many learned a big lesson.


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post Feb 23 2018, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Feb 22 2018, 11:11 PM) *
Did you see the programme a couple of years ago where an audience were sitting in on the HUMANE slaughter of lambs, or possibly goats, from farm to plate? The whole process was shown. Stun, kill and butcher, then cook.

I'm sure many learned a big lesson.

Most of us have become divorced from the reality of food. We eat too much and we waste FAR too much. I've been in a slaughter house watching pigs come through. Distressing is too mild a description.


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post Feb 24 2018, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 22 2018, 10:30 PM) *
Omnivores. Funny word that. Almost a biological clue. I don't want to eat animals that have suffered and yes I think all people that eat meat should experience killing an animal humanely so they know what is involved and what it feels like. Its all to easy to pick it up from the supermarket without thinking about the process that has got it to the shelf. I know I am gulity of that. But... I do like a steak.


Being an omnivore means you are quite happy to eat a pig and the pig in turn would eat you given half a chance. No pre-stunning on his behalf I would like to wager. The one thing that supposedly sets the human aside from the rest of the animal kingdom is the ability to reason on an objective plain. Not to sure if taking the 7 year olds on a trip to to the local abattoir as part of the education curriculum would achieve anymore than adding to the mental health bill but you are correct saying that we should know how the food arrived on the plate.


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post Feb 24 2018, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Feb 24 2018, 09:14 AM) *
Being an omnivore means you are quite happy to eat a pig and the pig in turn would eat you given half a chance. No pre-stunning on his behalf I would like to wager. The one thing that supposedly sets the human aside from the rest of the animal kingdom is the ability to reason on an objective plain. Not to sure if taking the 7 year olds on a trip to to the local abattoir as part of the education curriculum would achieve anymore than adding to the mental health bill but you are correct saying that we should know how the food arrived on the plate.

Quite frankly I don't think people care. Any number of programs highlighting cruelty to chickens just so they can get cheap birds in Aldi, yet ask them to pay more for free range or organic and it 'naw mate, got free kids ta feed enni!' as they back away pawing at a six pack of special brew and a carton of ciggies.
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post Feb 24 2018, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 24 2018, 09:47 AM) *
Quite frankly I don't think people care. Any number of programs highlighting cruelty to chickens just so they can get cheap birds in Aldi, yet ask them to pay more for free range or organic and it 'naw mate, got free kids ta feed enni!' as they back away pawing at a six pack of special brew and a carton of ciggies.


In one. This is the reality of life in the UK, ( and one suspects every other county for that matter), so matters such as the subject of this post will only gain momentum providing it doesn't cost the masses anything. Add 50p to a roasting chicken and the press will go into meltdown with pictures of starving kids, add £50 to their mobile phone bill and they will not bat an eyelid. Maybe a short sharp shock in a food price hoist is just what they need.


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post Feb 24 2018, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 24 2018, 09:47 AM) *
Quite frankly I don't think people care. Any number of programs highlighting cruelty to chickens just so they can get cheap birds in Aldi, yet ask them to pay more for free range or organic and it 'naw mate, got free kids ta feed enni!' as they back away pawing at a six pack of special brew and a carton of ciggies.


You've actually personally seen this in the local Aldi? Surely a man of your means has the groceries delivered?
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post Feb 24 2018, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Feb 24 2018, 02:30 PM) *
You've actually personally seen this in the local Aldi? Surely a man of your means has the groceries delivered?

Waitrose. But I have parked outside Aldi, just for the amusement value.
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post Feb 24 2018, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 22 2018, 10:30 PM) *
Omnivores. Funny word that. Almost a biological clue. I don't want to eat animals that have suffered and yes I think all people that eat meat should experience killing an animal humanely so they know what is involved and what it feels like. Its all to easy to pick it up from the supermarket without thinking about the process that has got it to the shelf. I know I am gulity of that. But... I do like a steak.



I wonder how many other species on this planet have gone from carnivore, to omnivore, to herbivore or whatever combination of focus when required to survive.

If so, did they go through the transition via environmental, that is, the landscape, weather n stuff, or through the expansion of the mind?




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post Feb 24 2018, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Feb 24 2018, 03:07 PM) *
I wonder how many other species on this planet have gone from carnivore, to omnivore, to herbivore or whatever combination of focus when required to survive.

If so, did they go through the transition via environmental, that is, the landscape, weather n stuff, or through the expansion of the mind?

Well, there's cattle for a start. Famous for being herbivores yet we thought it was a spiffy idea to feed them on cattle cake containing? Yeah, you guessed it, containing ground up diseased cattle. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 24 2018, 02:45 PM) *
Waitrose. But I have parked outside Aldi, just for the amusement value.


Sorry, should have realised the lodge is almost opposite. wink.gif
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post Feb 24 2018, 03:46 PM
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And Aldi don't do kittens in aspic, so there's that!
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post Feb 24 2018, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 24 2018, 03:27 PM) *
Well, there's cattle for a start. Famous for being herbivores yet we thought it was a spiffy idea to feed them on cattle cake containing? Yeah, you guessed it, containing ground up diseased cattle. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?


On a not dissimilar level, after the Napoleonic wars the residual carcasses of man and beast were shipped to Northern mills to be rendered down to make blood and bone meal for use as an agricultural fertiliser. So it is pretty safe to assume that any disease contracted by the military personnel, ( including lead poisoning ), would end up in the food chain.
We never learn, and quite possibly, never will.


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post Feb 24 2018, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Feb 24 2018, 03:30 PM) *
Sorry, should have realised the lodge is almost opposite. wink.gif


Leave our lodge out of it. Grand Master Je Suis has organised some great rituals for us.
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 24 2018, 09:06 PM) *
Leave our lodge out of it. Grand Master Je Suis has organised some great rituals for us.

Chasing liberals with dogs is one. Stage 2 is sharp pointy sticks.
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post Feb 25 2018, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 24 2018, 09:45 PM) *
Chasing liberals with dogs is one. Stage 2 is sharp pointy sticks.


Blood sports are blood sports despite the vermin control argument. Surely there is a more humane answer to a growing problem.


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post Mar 3 2018, 12:16 AM
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The latest;

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1606...ep__court_told/


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post Mar 3 2018, 04:15 AM
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The Muslim responsible was called William Woodward.
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