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Bofem
post Jan 7 2011, 05:26 PM
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I think most of us are aware that WBC wants to ban buses in Northbrook Street, scrap the taxi rank in the Market Place, and sundry other bits and bobs to address town centre traffic issues.

This is to be decided next week
They seemed to have missed me off their consultation, but did ask some 'interest groups' and here's what they said, with the WBC response on the right.

What do you all think?






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Iommi
post Jan 7 2011, 09:15 PM
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post Jan 8 2011, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (Bofem @ Jan 7 2011, 10:15 PM) *
What do you all think?

I know I've said it before but this really grates on me.................
We were told ten or more years ago that the by-pass would "sort out our traffic". laugh.gif
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post Jan 8 2011, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 8 2011, 09:41 AM) *
I know I've said it before but this really grates on me.................
We were told ten or more years ago that the by-pass would "sort out our traffic". laugh.gif
It did, then everyone decided to use their car more.

The more roads you build the more people will use their cars. That's just how it works.
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post Jan 8 2011, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 8 2011, 04:16 PM) *
It did, then everyone decided to use their car more.

The more roads you build the more people will use their cars. That's just how it works.

Exactly!
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post Jan 8 2011, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 8 2011, 08:26 PM) *
Exactly!

Errr no. Its more people, if we hadn't had to build all those new houses, traffic levels would have reduced when the bypass opened and stayed reduced. The A34 itself had a traffic increase, occassioned by releasing the pent up demand for Southampton docks access to the North. The only time a road generated traffic was the M1 - when it opened, it became a tourist attraction for a short time. Do you honestly know anyone locally who has increased the number of car trips they make simply because the by pass has opened? I do know several people who have recently moved here bringing their cars with them. I also know a couple who now use a car because the local bus service has reduced its already poor service. The self generation of traffic story is an urban myth,


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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 8 2011, 09:36 PM) *
The A34 itself had a traffic increase, occassioned by releasing the pent up demand for Southampton docks access to the North. The self generation of traffic story is an urban myth,

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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 9 2011, 12:29 PM) *
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