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'Man steers clear of town after bollards smash' |
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Aug 7 2009, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 7 2009, 11:45 AM) I won’t argue with you there… I will be there soon… well, in another 11 years… so I’ve got a few years to go yet before I am senile There are some over 65s who shouldn't be driving but there are also a lot of under 25s also who shouldn't be on the road too. I think this old boy thought he could beat the bollards just like most of the others and came unstuck.
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Aug 7 2009, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Aug 7 2009, 11:52 AM) There are some over 65s who shouldn't be driving but there are also a lot of under 25s also who shouldn't be on the road too. I think this old boy thought he could beat the bollards just like most of the others and came unstuck. I think he was tailgating and didn’t see the signs; that is why they are always hit. I agree about some of the young; they shouldn’t be on the road.
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Aug 7 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 6 2009, 12:36 PM) Says who?
Management system; run by morons for morons. Basically they haven’t got a clue. So do you have a thing against morons ? Even morons have feelings don't you know. Poor bunnies , lets all befriend one and say nice things about him / her / it.
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Aug 7 2009, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 7 2009, 09:34 AM) It was Strafin who made that highly offensive remark, which I replied to, but there has been no apology forthcoming so far. It wasn't offensive, it was a question and included one 65 year old, not all of them. I also agree that there are young drivers who are bad, men who are bad, women who are bad and some who are good in all these groups.
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Aug 7 2009, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Aug 7 2009, 07:50 PM) On this particular matter I have to ask "do we really care if they ever come to Newbury again?" seeing as they are quite obviously trying to cover their stupidity with the old "It wasn't my fault guv, it was every one elses fault!" attitude !!! Grrrrrr When she says "He had no idea these wretched things were there", those who don't live in Newbury might not realise: 1) It is a 0.6 mile drive from Railway Road to Wharf Street2) As the piece says, the first bollards were installed 10 years ago. So unless they are new to the area I find her statement fairly surprising, at best.
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Aug 7 2009, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 7 2009, 06:39 PM) It wasn't offensive, it was a question and included one 65 year old, not all of them. Well, perhaps you should choose your words a bit more carefully. You said "At 65, it might be time for him to give up not just driving into town, but driving altogether.", which implies that he is too old to drive because he is 65. If being 65 is a reason to stop driving, then that seems a pretty general statement to me.
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Aug 7 2009, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (lordtup @ Aug 7 2009, 05:28 PM) So do you have a thing against morons ? Even morons have feelings don't you know. Poor bunnies , lets all befriend one and say nice things about him / her / it. OK lordtup I'll start by offering you my freindship
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Aug 8 2009, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 7 2009, 08:34 PM) Well, perhaps you should choose your words a bit more carefully. You said "At 65, it might be time for him to give up not just driving into town, but driving altogether.", which implies that he is too old to drive because he is 65. If being 65 is a reason to stop driving, then that seems a pretty general statement to me. I do think people should think about giving up all sorts of things at 65 including driving, especially if they have just driven into a pedestrian zone as they weren't aware of it, despite living in the town. I think there should be a test of competence at 65, not a full driving test, but one that will test the basic skills of a driver and make sure they are still safe behind a wheel.
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Aug 8 2009, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 8 2009, 12:41 PM) I do think people should think about giving up all sorts of things at 65 including driving, especially if they have just driven into a pedestrian zone as they weren't aware of it, despite living in the town. I think there should be a test of competence at 65, not a full driving test, but one that will test the basic skills of a driver and make sure they are still safe behind a wheel. How many 65s, or over, have run over rising bollards in Newbury? Indeed, the highest risk age group are new drivers, perhaps they should give-up or be re-tested as soon as they are tested!
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Aug 8 2009, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 8 2009, 12:59 PM) How many 65s, or over, have run over rising bollards in Newbury? Indeed, the highest risk age group are new drivers, perhaps they should give-up or be re-tested as soon as they are tested! This is precisely the point I was trying to make to Strafin. Age has nothing to do with competence to drive (or to do anything else), and to mention it at all shows an ageist attitude whether intended or not. What is relevant at any age is physical capacity, mental capacity (reaction time, decision making) and mental attitude (bravado, sense of invulnerability, sheer bloodymindedness, whatever). On the attitude point, there is a well-known aviation saying: There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots.
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