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Posted by: gel Dec 2 2018, 08:38 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6450575/Russian-TV-spies-caught-secret-UK-army-psychological-warfare-unit.html

Posted by: newres Dec 2 2018, 12:47 PM

QUOTE (gel @ Dec 2 2018, 08:38 AM) *
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6450575/Russian-TV-spies-caught-secret-UK-army-psychological-warfare-unit.html

Honestly, you lot just lap it up. Street view would give as much. Daily Fail whip up the nationalists hokum.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 2 2018, 02:22 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Dec 2 2018, 12:47 PM) *
Honestly, you lot just lap it up. Street view would give as much. Daily Fail whip up the nationalists hokum.

Except, of course it's in the Telegraph, the Sun, The Mirror, The Independent, Sky news, in fact it's everywhere. Get your twisted libtard brain straight boy.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 2 2018, 03:22 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 2 2018, 02:22 PM) *
Except, of course it's in the Telegraph, the Sun, The Mirror, The Independent, Sky news, in fact it's everywhere. Get your twisted libtard brain straight boy.

Better to be dead than red.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 2 2018, 05:32 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Dec 2 2018, 12:47 PM) *
Honestly, you lot just lap it up. Street view would give as much. Daily Fail whip up the nationalists hokum.

Ooh look, its on he BBC, not exactly an organisation known for its dedication to the promulgation of the right wing.

Posted by: newres Dec 2 2018, 07:45 PM

A Russian drove around a military base. They could have just looked At Streetview. Hardly James Bond. Whoever reports it, itís a non story.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 2 2018, 07:52 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Dec 2 2018, 07:45 PM) *
A Russian drove around a military base. They could have just looked At Streetview. Hardly James Bond. Whoever reports it, itís a non story.

2 Russians went to Salisbury...

Posted by: newres Dec 2 2018, 09:42 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 2 2018, 07:52 PM) *
2 Russians went to Salisbury...

With a film crew? laugh.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 2 2018, 10:19 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Dec 2 2018, 09:42 PM) *
With a film crew? laugh.gif

They may as well have with all the Cctv footage.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 2 2018, 11:42 PM

If the source is irrelevant then why say this?


QUOTE (newres @ Dec 2 2018, 12:47 PM) *
. Daily Fail whip up the nationalists hokum.


Posted by: newres Dec 3 2018, 06:25 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 2 2018, 11:42 PM) *
If the source is irrelevant then why say this?

Because that was the link posted. rolleyes.gif

There seems to be a bit of a campaign at the moment with a senior soldier claiming the Russians are a greater threat than ISIS. A cynic might say itís all about increasing funding for the army.

If Borat took up spying.....

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 3 2018, 09:11 AM

Surely it is purely a case of a russian research fellow completing his doctorate? (See my previous post). I quite liked the DM's take that the barracks are situated in dense woodland, laugh.gif , Guess it ads to the mystique.

Posted by: newres Dec 3 2018, 11:30 AM

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/26057/russian-journalist-seen-filming-in-hermitage.html

Scary.

Posted by: gel Dec 3 2018, 12:02 PM

No Doubt RT (Russia Today) contractor, one time leader of the Scots Nats, will be along to do a piece on this for Putin's audience.
I wonder what the Scots commander of 77 Brigade would like to do to his countryman, if he saw Alex Salmond at gate?
Personally I am appalled that the authorities allow RT to have a presence on UK soil, as it clearly a Putin fake news operation.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 3 2018, 01:02 PM

QUOTE (gel @ Dec 3 2018, 12:02 PM) *
No Doubt RT (Russia Today) contractor, one time leader of the Scots Nats, will be along to do a piece on this for Putin's audience.
I wonder what the Scots commander of 77 Brigade would like to do to his countryman, if he saw Alex Salmond at gate?
Personally I am appalled that the authorities allow RT to have a presence on UK soil, as it clearly a Putin fake news operation.

Who else would have JC as it's special contributor?

Posted by: Andy1 Dec 3 2018, 04:15 PM

All the top news sites are reporting, lol. Like a boss, even bigger lol. Top secret base. It's so secret, they put a sign outside to fool people. Muppet.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 3 2018, 07:09 PM

QUOTE (Andy1 @ Dec 3 2018, 04:15 PM) *
All the top news sites are reporting, lol. Like a boss, even bigger lol. Top secret base. It's so secret, they put a sign outside to fool people. Muppet.

Ahh, the inchoate mumblings of the intellectually challenged proletariat. Well done.

Posted by: newres Dec 3 2018, 07:29 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 3 2018, 07:09 PM) *
Ahh, the inchoate mumblings of the intellectually challenged proletariat. Well done.

Although his point was a fair one. Itís a secret base with signs outside and available on Streetview and a spy with a microphone and a film crew tried to interview a member of staff. Itís utter nonsense. It has the joint goal of further demonising the Russians and making a not so subtle bid to gain more money to defend against ďsophisticatedĒ Russian attempts at infiltration. Couldnít make it up. Itís not even a quiet news week.

Posted by: Andy1 Dec 3 2018, 07:52 PM

QUOTE (Knob boy @ Dec 3 2018, 07:09 PM) *
Ahh, the inchoate mumblings of the intellectually challenged proletariat. Well done.


Yep, totally agree and I don't pretend to be anything else.

Posted by: Phil_D11102 Dec 11 2018, 10:55 AM

It was a documented fact that there were communists who were in the peace camps at Greenham.

As long as they were outside the base, who cares...

Posted by: newres Dec 11 2018, 05:17 PM

QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Dec 11 2018, 10:55 AM) *
It was a documented fact that there were communists who were in the peace camps at Greenham.

As long as they were outside the base, who cares...

Communists? So what?

Posted by: Phil_D11102 Dec 12 2018, 11:42 AM

QUOTE (newres @ Dec 11 2018, 05:17 PM) *
Communists? So what?



So what, so much for the peace women not being influenced or infiltrated by outsiders to do harm to those inside and outside the base.

So what.

Posted by: newres Dec 12 2018, 02:01 PM

QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Dec 12 2018, 11:42 AM) *
So what, so much for the peace women not being influenced or infiltrated by outsiders to do harm to those inside and outside the base.

So what.

I'm sure there were people of all political persuasions. Anarchists, Tories even. So what?

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 12 2018, 03:24 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Dec 12 2018, 02:01 PM) *
I'm sure there were people of all political persuasions. Anarchists, Tories even. So what?

The Tories weren't as far as I know pointing enough nuclear weapons at us to turn us and the Western world into glowing cinders ten times over. That's what.

Posted by: newres Dec 13 2018, 06:29 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 12 2018, 03:24 PM) *
The Tories weren't as far as I know pointing enough nuclear weapons at us to turn us and the Western world into glowing cinders ten times over. That's what.

No. That was the Soviets. Iím still not following.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 13 2018, 10:23 AM

QUOTE (newres @ Dec 13 2018, 06:29 AM) *
No. That was the Soviets. Iím still not following.

Who were communists, yes? No? Do try to keep up.

Posted by: Andy1 Dec 13 2018, 01:20 PM

So a known Russian reporter and a cameraman, rock up at Heathrow, customs ask for the purpose of their visit, to which they reply, we're going to the Cafť at Hillier's for coffee and cake. Then leave a day or so later without any questions asked.

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 13 2018, 01:30 PM

QUOTE (Andy1 @ Dec 13 2018, 01:20 PM) *
So a known Russian reporter and a cameraman, rock up at Heathrow, customs ask for the purpose of their visit, to which they reply, we're going to the Cafť at Hillier's for coffee and cake. Then leave a day or so later without any questions asked.


Seems plausible to me. All to do with increasing the UK's profile as a tourist destination. Bit like saying all muslims sporting a beard and carrying an AK47 under their frock are terrorists. Evil be to he who evil thinks I say. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 13 2018, 01:47 PM

A bit like two Russians who only went to Salisbury to look at the cathedral?

Posted by: Strafin Dec 13 2018, 01:59 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 13 2018, 10:23 AM) *
Who were communists, yes? No? Do try to keep up.

Were all communists soviets then?

Posted by: newres Dec 13 2018, 02:41 PM

QUOTE (Strafin @ Dec 13 2018, 01:59 PM) *
Were all communists soviets then?

I'd be amazed if there weren't members of the SWP there, but I wouldn't expect them to be Soviet spies or even sympathisers. Is it ironic though that someone who moans about a perceived lack of freedom of expression feels that people shouldn't be allowed to protest because of their political views?

You can protest, breach court orders and riot if it's against Muslims or in support of some nutty right wing cause, but you're not allowed a peaceful protest if you're a member of the SWP. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 13 2018, 03:51 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 13 2018, 01:47 PM) *
A bit like two Russians who only went to Salisbury to look at the cathedral?


Well worth a visit it is too. Least they didn't take a hammer to the Magna Carta.

Posted by: Andy1 Dec 13 2018, 04:23 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 13 2018, 01:30 PM) *
Seems plausible to me. All to do with increasing the UK's profile as a tourist destination. Bit like saying all muslims sporting a beard and carrying an AK47 under their frock are terrorists. Evil be to he who evil thinks I say. rolleyes.gif


It's not like that at all

Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 1 2019, 11:18 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46722157

More than 230 people have attempted to cross the English Channel in small boats since November, according to a tally being kept by BBC News.

How many asylum seekers are there?

In 2017, there were 26,350 applications for asylum made in the UK.

This compares with 198,255 applications for asylum made in Germany, 126,550 in Italy and 91,070 in France over the same period.

In total in the UK, there were 21,290 decisions made with 31.8% gaining some form of protection.

Posted by: Phil_D11102 Jan 3 2019, 09:37 AM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 1 2019, 11:18 PM) *
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46722157

More than 230 people have attempted to cross the English Channel in small boats since November, according to a tally being kept by BBC News.

How many asylum seekers are there?

In 2017, there were 26,350 applications for asylum made in the UK.

This compares with 198,255 applications for asylum made in Germany, 126,550 in Italy and 91,070 in France over the same period.

In total in the UK, there were 21,290 decisions made with 31.8% gaining some form of protection.


If you want asylum, why not go to the embassy or a border crossing point and officially ask for asylum. If you enter the country illegally, you are not an asylum seeker, you are a illegal alien.

To ask for asylum after you get caught is not an asylum seeker, your still a criminal.


Posted by: Andy1 Jan 3 2019, 11:10 AM

QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Jan 3 2019, 09:37 AM) *
If you want asylum, why not go to the embassy or a border crossing point and officially ask for asylum. If you enter the country illegally, you are not an asylum seeker, you are a illegal alien.

To ask for asylum after you get caught is not an asylum seeker, your still a criminal.


If they are having to be rescued and then taken into land, are they entering illegally? What's the process for this.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Jan 3 2019, 04:33 PM

QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Jan 3 2019, 09:37 AM) *
If you want asylum, why not go to the embassy or a border crossing point and officially ask for asylum. If you enter the country illegally, you are not an asylum seeker, you are a illegal alien.

To ask for asylum after you get caught is not an asylum seeker, your still a criminal.

They're not asylum seekers, they're economic migrants.

Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 3 2019, 06:24 PM

QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Jan 3 2019, 09:37 AM) *
If you want asylum, why not go to the embassy or a border crossing point and officially ask for asylum. If you enter the country illegally, you are not an asylum seeker, you are a illegal alien.

To ask for asylum after you get caught is not an asylum seeker, your still a criminal.

ďBritain received less than 4 per cent of all asylum claims made in the EU during last year.Ē

Posted by: Phil_D11102 Jan 10 2019, 09:44 AM

QUOTE (Andy1 @ Jan 3 2019, 11:10 AM) *
If they are having to be rescued and then taken into land, are they entering illegally? What's the process for this.



It should be immediate deportation, as you are trying to enter the country illegally.


They're not asylum seekers, they're economic migrants.


A true economic migrant would go through the border with all their documentation.

The reason why the UK is not getting as many asylum applications as Germany, France or Italy is because we live on a island. If GB was separated from the rest of the EU by a river no wider than the Thames there would be more attempts to enter the UK illegally.

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