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Dec 20 2017, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Dec 20 2017, 02:42 PM) I don't agree at all that because someone has called you a loon that another forum member should be allowed to use language that is derived from the word ******. Its classic two wrongs dont make a right territory!
Regarding the over 60s, most of them are retiring or due to retire and have a limited shelf life. If we are going to complain that the young shouldn't get a vote or the left is comprised of only students wanting free stuff then I think it should go both ways. But the current generation of sixty plussers, in my experience are gripping on to nostalgia and a time that they are used to. I work in catering and currently in have to allow people to work in pounds and ounces because some simply refuse to learn the metric system. A huge percentage of them can't use i pads and they just haven't moved with the times. I know there are some forward thinkers out there and i am generalising but so was Charlie when he made his claims. Since when was imperial weights and measures outlawed ? It was the result of bodged attempt to "European " us by a political elite who thought they knew best , ( ring any recent bells ? ). We now have 40% of the Country using only metric , 40 % imperial and 20% illiterate. Well done ! As for using an ipad , why should anyone if they do not have need to ? The future requires people who can lay a brick , build an engine or grow food ,not ponce about in front of some electronic gizmo Maybe compulsory euthanasia for the over 55s is the way forward ?
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Dec 20 2017, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 20 2017, 03:38 PM) Since when was imperial weights and measures outlawed ? It was the result of bodged attempt to "European " us by a political elite who thought they knew best , ( ring any recent bells ? ). We now have 40% of the Country using only metric , 40 % imperial and 20% illiterate. Well done ! As for using an ipad , why should anyone if they do not have need to ? The future requires people who can lay a brick , build an engine or grow food ,not ponce about in front of some electronic gizmo Maybe compulsory euthanasia for the over 55s is the way forward ? Interesting view of the future Sir William. World trade means we will doubtless need only to know how to unload already constructed vehicles and such like. Robotic builders are being trialled right now, but potentially alongside machines that will assemble prefabricated construction material. Food; sure, potentially though in big sheds and serviced like outside agriculture by increasingly robotic machine....so, apart from digging footings, tidying around or looking after the frail, apart from 'poncing about in front of some electronic gizmo' is likely to be the only trade left!
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Dec 20 2017, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 20 2017, 04:26 PM) Interesting view of the future Sir William. World trade means we will doubtless need only to know how to unload already constructed vehicles and such like. Robotic builders are being trialled right now, but potentially alongside machines that will assemble prefabricated construction material. Food; sure, potentially though in big sheds and serviced like outside agriculture by increasingly robotic machine....so, apart from digging footings, tidying around or looking after the frail, apart from 'poncing about in front of some electronic gizmo' is likely to be the only trade left! If we accept your dystopian view of the future as given , what the hades are the workers going to do ? Certainly not work . With 20 million trying to survive in the gig economy I doubt very much any Country ,whatever political doctrine it operates under , could sustain such pressure . Food production certainly is the largest problem facing the world population but a few poly tunnels knocking out lettuce by the score is not going to solve it . Will be interesting to observe from my newly printed/constructed by robots rest home while being attended by an oxbridge graduate who can't find work .
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Dec 21 2017, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 20 2017, 05:21 PM) If we accept your dystopian view of the future as given , what the hades are the workers going to do ? Certainly not work . With 20 million trying to survive in the gig economy I doubt very much any Country ,whatever political doctrine it operates under , could sustain such pressure . Food production certainly is the largest problem facing the world population but a few poly tunnels knocking out lettuce by the score is not going to solve it . Will be interesting to observe from my newly printed/constructed by robots rest home while being attended by an oxbridge graduate who can't find work . Bleak I know; worse, it's not simply my view; even the Governor of the Bank of England has been dropping more than heavy hints. Today, we are seeing large numbers trying to survive in this so called 'gig economy' - those jobs are also under threat. Uber drivers by driverless vehicle technology, Delivery people by drone etc. The Government is giving itself a pat on the back for a low unemployment rate and creating many more jobs. However, they are seriously worried that the intellect needed to do the jobs, the hours worked and so the wages earned have fallen significantly. Ironically, as far as the Oxbridge graduate you mention is concerned, that's already happening. I have an elderly relative bring cared for by such a person! And yes, food production worldwide is a massive issue. For us, we might be able to grow a little more, but the stark reality will be that our diets will have to change and will be less. We are just beginning to see what is going on now the Asia/Pacific nations are emerging. I don't think any political party has the answer and worse, doesn't seem to have the capability even to address this issue.
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