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post Mar 25 2017, 12:26 PM
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Please note that the grilled Clacton kipper is off the menu. House of Commons Terrace Cafeteria.


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post Apr 18 2017, 03:41 PM
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Going to be interesting this one. The old regime still haven't quite understood that the 'jam's' are the very ones who like Jeremy Corbyn.

Trouble is, rather too many pundits confuse charisma with leadership. Let's face it, Clement Atlee would have got nowhere today and look how well the Tory wannabes fared immediately post Thatcher.

Time to forget Esso Blue style opposition.


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post Apr 18 2017, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 18 2017, 04:41 PM) *
Going to be interesting this one. The old regime still haven't quite understood that the 'jam's' are the very ones who like Jeremy Corbyn.

Trouble is, rather too many pundits confuse charisma with leadership. Let's face it, Clement Atlee would have got nowhere today and look how well the Tory wannabes fared immediately post Thatcher.

Time to forget Esso Blue style opposition.


I dint know anyone who would vote for Corbyn. Lets face it if he gets in we may as well all give our jobs up and live off the state. Free money for everyone.
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post Apr 18 2017, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 18 2017, 08:00 PM) *
I dint know anyone who would vote for Corbyn. Lets face it if he gets in we may as well all give our jobs up and live off the state. Free money for everyone.

Most people have empathy, so there's this natural inclination to help other people who are less well off because you can't help putting yourself in their shoes and feeling their pain. However, on the one hand you want to help people who have less than you, while on the other hand there's a natural inclination to want to keep everything you have to yourself, and while some people resolve that conflict by reconciling themselves to giving away some of what they have so that other people don't have to suffer, others resolve that conflict by stopping themselves thinking about other people as people and that effectively quenches their empathy - so for example you'd talk about the feckless rather than jobless, immigrants rather than refugees, or numbers rather than names.

So yes, if that narrative helps you cope, then OK, but another way to look at it is that taxation pays for services that any of us might have a need for but which we'd find hard to afford on our own - that's more or less a definition of socialism.


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post Apr 19 2017, 05:33 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 18 2017, 10:51 PM) *
Most people have empathy, so there's this natural inclination to help other people who are less well off because you can't help putting yourself in their shoes and feeling their pain. However, on the one hand you want to help people who have less than you, while on the other hand there's a natural inclination to want to keep everything you have to yourself, and while some people resolve that conflict by reconciling themselves to giving away some of what they have so that other people don't have to suffer, others resolve that conflict by stopping themselves thinking about other people as people and that effectively quenches their empathy - so for example you'd talk about the feckless rather than jobless, immigrants rather than refugees, or numbers rather than names.

So yes, if that narrative helps you cope, then OK, but another way to look at it is that taxation pays for services that any of us might have a need for but which we'd find hard to afford on our own - that's more or less a definition of socialism.


Im sorry but I've never read such a steaming pile of tosh. Helps you cope???? Socialism???? Better move to France Simon and vote for Melenchon. 90% tax and a maximum 32 hour week! Id be finished by Wednesday each week...😂
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post Apr 19 2017, 06:34 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 19 2017, 06:33 AM) *
Im sorry but I've never read such a steaming pile of tosh. Helps you cope???? Socialism???? Better move to France Simon and vote for Melenchon. 90% tax and a maximum 32 hour week! Id be finished by Wednesday each week...😂


Umm, so you work an excessively long week and haven't made any 'overseas' arrangement to deal with your tax? Sure, that's the lot of many of us today. Of course, whilst all the time one's boss is floating about the Med, whilst his gold stacks up. Who's the sucker TDH?

Oh well, best keep our heads down and earn enough to help the kids through Uni, at least the way we are, not having the high end jobs in this Country means they'll never have to pay back their student loan! And anyway, at least when we stop work age, the NI contributions we've made will keep us comfortable 'till the van comes, won't they?





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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 19 2017, 07:34 AM) *
Umm, so you work an excessively long week and haven't made any 'overseas' arrangement to deal with your tax? Sure, that's the lot of many of us today. Of course, whilst all the time one's boss is floating about the Med, whilst his gold stacks up. Who's the sucker TDH?

Oh well, best keep our heads down and earn enough to help the kids through Uni, at least the way we are, not having the high end jobs in this Country means they'll never have to pay back their student loan! And anyway, at least when we stop work age, the NI contributions we've made will keep us comfortable 'till the van comes, won't they?


I see my boss every day working his balls off as a FTSE250 CEO. Don't believe all the cr@p that you read. Sure you have bad bosses. You alao have bad employees.
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