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stewiegriffin
post Apr 8 2013, 12:41 PM
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Finally she is gone.

Understand I would virtually never celebrate the death of anyone, but I am struggling to feel bad about the passing of the woman who ruined the life prospects of millions of ordinary people in Britain.

How about you? Happy, sad or indifferent to todays news?
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post Apr 8 2013, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE (stewiegriffin @ Apr 8 2013, 01:41 PM) *
Finally she is gone.

Understand I would virtually never celebrate the death of anyone, but I am struggling to feel bad about the passing of the woman who ruined the life prospects of millions of ordinary people in Britain.

How about you? Happy, sad or indifferent to todays news?


I wonder if you are old enough to remember the state the UK was in when she came to power.
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post Apr 8 2013, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (pbonnay @ Apr 8 2013, 01:50 PM) *
I wonder if you are old enough to remember the state the UK was in when she came to power.


Yes I am.
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:25 PM
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Have some compassion lads, that's what Thatcher was all about, compassion.
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:48 PM
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Having started work in 1970 and endured the Heath / Wilson / Callaghan years - like it or not she gave our self respect as a Country back. We were seen as the sick man of Europe and in the States, a sick joke. Her politics were harsh and weren't always right, but the alternative didn't bear thinking about. Sadly, she walked into the usual trap big leaders fall and failed to manage her succession.


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post Apr 8 2013, 01:51 PM
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I think she was one of our greatest ever leaders, whilst people didn't always agree with her, there was no pretence, she was up front and honest.
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:56 PM
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I wasn't really old enough to even know or give a crap so it makes little difference to me.

Funny how it's OK to insult or berate dead people when you feel like it.. maybe I could call her an idiot and see what happened there... ohmy.gif


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post Apr 8 2013, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Apr 8 2013, 02:56 PM) *
Funny how it's OK to insult or berate dead people when you feel like it..


Generally it's probably wrong to speak ill of the dead. But since that didn't stop Thatcher after Hillsborough, I'll take my lead from her thank you very much.
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post Apr 8 2013, 02:32 PM
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I find the whole debaccle about being nice about people when they are dead fake.
If you think they're stupid in their life then their death doesn't change that.

There's nothing worse than hypocrisy.. In my death if people thought I was a knob then I'd rather them say so then be all nice "because it's the polite thing to do".


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post Apr 8 2013, 03:16 PM
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As Margaret so sagely said herself "There is NO alternative".

Her legacy was remarkable; we saw a massive increase in upward social mobility, the defeat and ultimate roll-back of world bolshevism and the defeat of old style socialism and undemocratic trade unionism at home.

And don't believe the false narrative that she was responsible for the "collapse" of industry. I suppose that is why Nissan and Toyota invested here! We are still the six largest manufacturing state in the world. Not bad when there are over 190 states.

We need someone equally uncompromising to put the country back on its feet again now. There are always winners and losers. On balance, Margaret made this a country of winners again and gave the country back its self confidence and respect in the wider world.
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:17 PM
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She was an inspiration to hard working decent people.

She was unliked by the feckless and something for nothing brigade.

Maggie - I for one salute you.
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (stewiegriffin @ Apr 8 2013, 01:41 PM) *
Finally she is gone.

Understand I would virtually never celebrate the death of anyone, but I am struggling to feel bad about the passing of the woman who ruined the life prospects of millions of ordinary people in Britain.

How about you? Happy, sad or indifferent to todays news?


So from your bold statement you are saying James Callaghan would of done a better job???? I bet the Falklands Islands would be flying the Argentina Flag by now and the unions running this country
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (desres123 @ Apr 8 2013, 04:23 PM) *
So from your bold statement you are saying James Callaghan would of done a better job???? I bet the Falklands Islands would be flying the Argentina Flag by now and the unions running this country


No that is not what I'm saying.

And the demise of British manufacturing is anything but a false narrative. Neither is her oh so enthusiastic deregulation of the banking industry. Remind me, how did that one work out?

We have a massive housing shortage, millions of poverty pay jobs in lieu of decent manufacturing jobs, and gigantic national debt thanks to the GFC. All as an absolutely direct result of Thatcherite policies.

Thanks Maggie.
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (desres123 @ Apr 8 2013, 04:23 PM) *
So from your bold statement you are saying James Callaghan would of done a better job???? I bet the Falklands Islands would be flying the Argentina Flag by now and the unions running this country


Yep 3 day week, Rubbish Not collected, Hyper inflation, Power Cuts, Dead not being buried, 40% pay rises. What could you possibly not enjoy about that? laugh.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:36 PM
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The lady that allowed a class of people to buy their own home who otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford it, yet now their children cannot move out of the same place because the price of a house is too high for people on the modal average wage to afford one.
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (stewiegriffin @ Apr 8 2013, 04:35 PM) *
No that is not what I'm saying.

And the demise of British manufacturing is anything but a false narrative. Neither is her oh so enthusiastic deregulation of the banking industry. Remind me, how did that one work out?

We have a massive housing shortage, millions of poverty pay jobs in lieu of decent manufacturing jobs, and gigantic national debt thanks to the GFC. All as an absolutely direct result of Thatcherite policies.

Thanks Maggie.


Dont forget the Milk. I bet she snatched it off you! rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 8 2013, 03:36 PM) *
Yep 3 day week,


Oh dear, the old 'selective memory' kicking in then?

Just to put you straight.......the Three Day Week took place under a Tory government.
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Apr 8 2013, 04:39 PM) *
Oh dear, the old 'selective memory' kicking in then?

Just to put you straight.......the Three Day Week took place under a Tory government.


I stand corrected. I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong.
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (stewiegriffin @ Apr 8 2013, 04:35 PM) *
No that is not what I'm saying.

And the demise of British manufacturing is anything but a false narrative. Neither is her oh so enthusiastic deregulation of the banking industry. Remind me, how did that one work out?

We have a massive housing shortage, millions of poverty pay jobs in lieu of decent manufacturing jobs, and gigantic national debt thanks to the GFC. All as an absolutely direct result of Thatcherite policies.

Thanks Maggie.


Well she may have started the ball rolling for the banking industry but cant remember Blair/Brown doing anything from 1997 to prevent what happened apart from spending and selling the nations gold reserve at the lowest price
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 8 2013, 03:17 PM) *
Maggie - I for one salute you.


How pompous. She can't hear you and I doubt if anyone here particularly gives a tos5 who you salute. Big Head.
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