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post Nov 4 2013, 04:33 PM
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MPs have come under attack for claiming £200,000 of taxpayers' money to cover the cost of their energy bills.

Some 340 MPs, including Government ministers, have used the parliamentary expenses system to recoup the cost of heating their second homes, according to the Sunday Mirror.

Bills costing more than £1,000 were submitted by 41 MPs while 78 made claims for £500 in the 12 months up to March this year, its analysis found.

The claims do not break any parliamentary rules but come at a time of heightened tensions over the spiralling cost of gas and electricity.

Conservative MP Nadhim Zahawi, a founder of market research firm YouGov, claimed the most with a bill totalling £5,822.27 to cover electricity and heating oil for his estate in Warwickshire.

International Development Minister Alan Duncan claimed £2,750 for electricity bills and £1,250 in heating oil for his home in Rutland, Leicestershire while Universities Minister David Willetts, claimed £2,596.


How much longer do we have to put up with these freeloaders !!!!!!!!! angry.gif
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post Nov 4 2013, 04:37 PM
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We'll have to put up with them till we as a nation no longer stand for this crap

I fear more riots and protests before anything will change.



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post Nov 4 2013, 04:51 PM
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How can you blame them? The rules say they're allowed to claim for it, so they do. Until the rules are changed they're doing nothing wrong apart from morally, but if they're all at it then what difference does it make?
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post Nov 4 2013, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (HJD @ Nov 4 2013, 04:33 PM) *
MPs have come under attack for claiming £200,000 of taxpayers' money to cover the cost of their energy bills.

Some 340 MPs, including Government ministers, have used the parliamentary expenses system to recoup the cost of heating their second homes, according to the Sunday Mirror.

Bills costing more than £1,000 were submitted by 41 MPs while 78 made claims for £500 in the 12 months up to March this year, its analysis found.

The claims do not break any parliamentary rules but come at a time of heightened tensions over the spiralling cost of gas and electricity.

Conservative MP Nadhim Zahawi, a founder of market research firm YouGov, claimed the most with a bill totalling £5,822.27 to cover electricity and heating oil for his estate in Warwickshire.

International Development Minister Alan Duncan claimed £2,750 for electricity bills and £1,250 in heating oil for his home in Rutland, Leicestershire while Universities Minister David Willetts, claimed £2,596.


How much longer do we have to put up with these freeloaders !!!!!!!!! angry.gif



You are correct when you say 'we are all in it together,' and we are. But politicians don't regard themselves as us, but a breed above. 'Together' is for the 'lower breed'.
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post Nov 4 2013, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (Claude @ Nov 4 2013, 04:51 PM) *
How can you blame them? The rules say they're allowed to claim for it, so they do. Until the rules are changed they're doing nothing wrong apart from morally, but if they're all at it then what difference does it make?


Oh no that's right.
I agree
I would do it to

That just makes me an ******* as well.


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post Nov 4 2013, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Nov 4 2013, 04:37 PM) *
We'll have to put up with them till we as a nation no longer stand for this crap

I fear more riots and protests before anything will change.


I am sure our local MP will be popping along shortly to explain for us what he proposes to do about it! rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 4 2013, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Nov 4 2013, 04:55 PM) *
I am sure our local MP will be popping along shortly to explain for us what he proposes to do about it! rolleyes.gif


I wouldn't like the energy bill for Englefield. I doubt he does so would be interested in his claim.
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post Nov 5 2013, 08:21 AM
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He kept his hands clean last time, no reason to suspect he'd be any different this time! Mind, I doubt if he has any real need!

On the general point, so what's new? No such thing as honour, loyalty or integrity these days - can't trust anyone to 'do the right thing' unless there is a 'rule' making them. What a great society!


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post Nov 5 2013, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 5 2013, 08:21 AM) *
He kept his hands clean last time,


No he didn't. He got caught passing all the solicitors bills he incurred when buying property in London.

Why he felt the need to is a matter for him and his conscience.
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post Nov 5 2013, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Nov 5 2013, 09:52 AM) *
No he didn't. He got caught passing all the solicitors bills he incurred when buying property in London.

Why he felt the need to is a matter for him and his conscience.

Oh I must have missed that one. Quite agree with sentiments though. We have a chap here who is on a four year project, which means he spends most of his week this side of Brum; simply as a joke, he asked the Governor if we'd let him rent a little flat that way. Interesting response, which I can't type here because too many stars appear!

So it seems we can't trust anyone at all.


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post Nov 5 2013, 11:50 AM
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It would seem that the ruling classes never miss an opportunity, legal or not, to get their noses in the trough.
What a miserable and despicable bunch of self serving wasters.


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post Nov 5 2013, 01:18 PM
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This isn't the preserve of the ruling classes; it's, by and large, human nature.
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post Nov 5 2013, 01:58 PM
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Oh well, so much for a compulsory education! Let's not criticise or give aid to under developed countries then; our civilisation is now the same as theirs. laugh.gif
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post Nov 5 2013, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 5 2013, 01:18 PM) *
This isn't the preserve of the ruling classes; it's, by and large, human nature.


Yes but it must be stopped if it involves benefit claimants obtaining a little more than they should though.
Of course that would leave less for the well off in the trough if benefit claimants got more than the bare minimum. rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 6 2013, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Nov 5 2013, 09:52 AM) *
No he didn't. He got caught passing all the solicitors bills he incurred when buying property in London.

Why he felt the need to is a matter for him and his conscience.

First I've heard of this - can you provide a link?
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post Nov 6 2013, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 6 2013, 10:34 AM) *
First I've heard of this - can you provide a link?


Really? This was much discussed on 'the other site' at the time - the one that seems to have vanished into the ether.

Somebody trawled through his expenses and spotted it, either 'Brian' or 'Threepwood' if memory serves., (but don't quote me). Our M.P had bought himself a flat in London and had passed on nearly 4 grand's worth of legal bills for the rest of us to pay. Even the N.W.N. picked up the story. Dickie finally had to put it up on his own web site pointing out that even with the fees he had claimed less over the year than he could have. (as though that made it ok - he is after all only the richest M.P. in the House)

It was a matter of some debate at the time as to why someone who owns an enormous number of properties in London, needed to buy another one. Especially as the Labour M.P. for Reading said that as he lived in Reading and was thus quite close to London he didn't need a flat there. Obviously Engelfield was just too far away.
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post Nov 6 2013, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Nov 6 2013, 11:13 AM) *
. Obviously Engelfield was just too far away.


The bus service is really lousy from the estate. Meant getting the chauffeur to drop him off in Theale to get the jet black.
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post Nov 7 2013, 10:33 PM
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He also claimed council tax for the second home.
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post Nov 8 2013, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Nov 7 2013, 10:33 PM) *
He also claimed council tax for the second home.

He should have made out it was vacant like everyone else.
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post Nov 8 2013, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Nov 8 2013, 09:29 AM) *
He should have made out it was vacant like everyone else.


Even if it's vacant you still have to fork out.
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