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Sep 14 2014, 09:03 PM
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Sad for the local /all employees http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbys...to-hang-up.htmlUPDATE: From what Vodafone reveal they were highly leveraged by their Equity Coy owners; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbys...s-collapse.htmlSeems taxpayer will miss out on VAT handed over by customers, and with echoes of Comet debacle, taxpayer will end up picking up redundancy & pension liabilities while owners pocket a tidy profit on their investment. The Government were supposed to be looking into the Comet situation so it wasn't repeated; ha ha.
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Sep 15 2014, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Sep 14 2014, 10:03 PM) Sad for the local /all employees
Seems taxpayer will miss out on VAT handed over by customers, and with echoes of Comet debacle, taxpayer will end up picking up redundancy & pension liabilities while owners pocket a tidy profit on their investment. Oh you never hear of the public bailing out corps do you!!
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Sep 15 2014, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 15 2014, 04:42 PM) It isn’t really surprising. It was obvious that at some point EE and Vodafone would cut out the middlemen. I presume that John Caudwell and his brother sold the company, for £1.47 billion, as he knew the eventuality of the company he created. They were nothing without the top phone companies selling through them, which put them on shaky ground from the beginning.
You are quite right, it's basic economics. For all their bluster about 'creating a market driven' economy our clever politicians don't seem capable of spotting monopolies. The old state energy utility firms had to separate their networks from their customer trading side, as did the railways. What's so special about telecoms?
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Sep 16 2014, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 16 2014, 01:13 AM) When comparing packages, I'm surprised anyone would want to go with the 'red giant'. Maybe because they are a "red giant" that they go with them. They say safety and security in size. Just look at Phones 4U; people went for cheapness and a better deal, now they have no deals.
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Sep 16 2014, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 16 2014, 04:16 PM) Maybe because they are a "red giant" that they go with them. They say safety and security in size. Just look at Phones 4U; people went for cheapness and a better deal, now they have no deals. I'm not sure that example is relevant; Phones 4U are are or were like a broker, not a network provider. The big red one is just about the most expensive, yet appear not offer anything better that I have seen. There used to be a feeling they had better network reach, but I'm not sure that is true now.
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Sep 17 2014, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 16 2014, 04:29 PM) I'm not sure that example is relevant; Phones 4U are are or were like a broker, not a network provider. The big red one is just about the most expensive, yet appear not offer anything better that I have seen. There used to be a feeling they had better network reach, but I'm not sure that is true now. When I first got a mobile phone I joined Vodafone, thinking they are the best. I am now with EE and happy with them. I also don't believe they do anything for us (Newbury).
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Sep 17 2014, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 17 2014, 01:40 PM) I'm with Tesco now. The big selling point being configurable capped usage, so no scary bills. So, a capped capp. Is that a first.
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Sep 17 2014, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (r.bartlett @ Sep 17 2014, 08:39 PM) Where has the progress actually been since the Racal days? Shareholder divies I expect.
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Sep 17 2014, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (r.bartlett @ Sep 17 2014, 08:39 PM) That said EE in all honesty are no better despite all the recent best network awards. left and right on the M4 is very patchy as is the up and down the A34. Dead handy living in Newbury! I agree I'm on EE and very poor reception in Newbury - looking to move networks shortly
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Sep 19 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (MontyPython @ Sep 17 2014, 08:42 PM) I agree I'm on EE and very poor reception in Newbury - looking to move networks shortly I'm North of Chieveley and 02 hopeless, but I find "3" very good. When I was on T Mobile, (now EE) would often lose reception on M4 between Heathrow + Reading-hopeless. I had hoped when EE was formed, on back of T Mobile & Orange network infrastructure, that there'd be more/better coverage, but EE Finance Dept demanded transmitter £thinning£ out, so no improvement
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Sep 19 2014, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Sep 19 2014, 01:44 PM) I'm North of Chieveley and 02 hopeless, but I find "3" very good. When I was on T Mobile, (now EE) would often lose reception on M4 between Heathrow + Reading-hopeless. I had hoped when EE was formed, on back of T Mobile & Orange network infrastructure, that there'd be more/better coverage, but EE Finance Dept demanded transmitter £thinning£ out, so no improvement Mrs. Biker was with 3 and coverage was crap. Now with Tesco (who I believe use the O2 network) and vastly better. Funny how different people have different experiences with different networks. Perhaps it's the phones? I know it's important to have software and phone settings correct for best performance.
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Sep 19 2014, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 19 2014, 07:32 PM) Mrs. Biker was with 3 and coverage was crap. Now with Tesco (who I believe use the O2 network) and vastly better. Funny how different people have different experiences with different networks. Perhaps it's the phones? I know it's important to have software and phone settings correct for best performance. Umm. That's the British answer to bad service and under investment - blame the customer! Just the old BMC tactic with their cars in a new guise.
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