Donald Trump, I sought of hope he wins... Options

[TallDarkAndHands...]

And becomes President...
Just to see what happens!

Putin vs Trump

What's the worst that could happen?

[je suis Charlie]

Like an episode of Loony Toons

[spartacus]

And becomes President...
Just to see what happens!

Putin vs Trump

What's the worst that could happen?

Boris could be handed the keys to No 10? Then it WOULD start to get funny....

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Boris could be handed the keys to No 10? Then it WOULD start to get funny....

I agree. Putin,Trump,Boris. Love to be a fly in the wall at a summit between those three....

[blackdog]

What's the worst that could happen?

WW3?

[je suis Charlie]

Why is every Republican contender totally insane?

[Phil_D11102]

Why is every Republican contender totally insane?

As an American, it's a shame that "The Donald" is the focal point for many disenfranchised people. The Republican Part could not find one decent candidate to be their poster child for the Republican party.

Why do I say that? Simple, both Hilary and Bernie will beat him in the election..

[Turin Machine]

As an American, it's a shame that "The Donald" is the focal point for many disenfranchised people. The Republican Part could not find one decent candidate to be their poster child for the Republican party.

Why do I say that? Simple, both Hilary and Bernie will beat him in the election..

But why is that? Why not find some sensible clean cut, non yeehah gun toting extremist, bile spewing candidate? There must be a gazillion of them in the party! Why push the self destruct button? Again! I agree, Hilary, weak though she is politically will probably seal this one for the Democrats.

[Berkshirelad]

I agree. Putin,Trump,Boris. Love to be a fly in the wall at a summit between those three....

I think that things would get done and decisions made though

[motormad]

I really like Boris

Where as I think Trump is a bigot.
His whole campaign is laughable.

[Turin Machine]

I agree. Putin,Trump,Boris. Love to be a fly in the wall at a summit between those three....

"But Boris, Donald, at home Russia does hair!". Come my friends, help annexe France, for the greater good.

[blackdog]

Trump isn't a Republican he's a Trumpist. Which is why the party leadership hates him and wants almost anyone to beat him. The main problem being that his closest challenger, Cruz, is another nutter they don't really want. They totally failed to push a single moderate Republican until it was far too late.

Trump will, of course, totally ignore the leadership (or what goes for party leadership in the States) and do his own thing - which is all about massaging his immense ego and growing his bank balance.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a number of senior Republicans advising folk to vote Clinton!

[Turin Machine]

Moderate Republican is an oxymoron.

[GMR]

WW3?

I doubt it. When Tricky Dickie was President he wanted to bomb (that is nuclear bomb) Vietnam and he was stopped. There are many safeguards that will stop him doing anything extreme. Even Obama said that just because he is leader doesn't mean he can do what he wants. There are restrictions in place. Putin is the only leader who is a law to himself (that is within the equation that was mentioned).

[Blake]

"Sought"?

[Turin Machine]

And the boy Trump gains the nomination! And the crowd goes wild!! So, that's a win for the Democrats then

[TallDarkAndHands...]

And the boy Trump gains the nomination! And the crowd goes wild!! So, that's a win for the Democrats then

White House bound! Set your bricklayer business up on the Mexico border. We got a 300 Billion dollar wall to build. Yee ha!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

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[Turin Machine]

Shame it wasn't the Alaskan honey! I'd go to her tea party any day.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Shame it wasn't the Alaskan honey! I'd go to her tea party any day.

So the 2 least popular Democratic and Republican nominees for President in history are set to duke it out...
Sounds like a British election.
I think Trump will win. He'll find a lot of "history" on Hilary...

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Not long now till the Donald becomes leader of the free world.
Must be 20 million yanks who are going to vote for him but won't say they are. Reminds me a bit of the Brexit vote.

[spartacus]

Well it's either him or Hillary's replacement because if she gets elected she won't be in Office for long. The REAL people in power twitching her strings all this time will soon realise they've got to bring in a new puppet as they want to control her strings, but it's going to be increasingly the Parkinson's Disease that will be dictating her twitching..

[Andy Capp]

Such is America politics, I don't really care who wins; American democracy works differently to ours.

[JeffG]

Such is America politics, I don't really care who wins; American democracy works differently to ours.

So you believe that whoever gets to be president has zero effect on the rest of the world? Personally, I am mightily worried about what could happen if Trump wins.

[Andy Capp]

So you believe that whoever gets to be president has zero effect on the rest of the world? Personally, I am mightily worried about what could happen if Trump wins.

You have grossly exaggerated what I posted. Their democracy means the president has a more challenging time with legislation.

[JeffG]

You have grossly exaggerated what I posted. Their democracy means the president has a more challenging time with legislation.

Well, I suppose if you go down that route, then there is not much point in having a president in the first place. How about executive powers? The president can veto any legislation.

[JeffG]

Tonight's presidential debate should be a corker. 2am on the News Channel, for those who want to record it.

(And an update on my previous post - I have since found out that congress can overturn the presidential veto. That hardly makes it a veto, then, does it?)

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Tonight's presidential debate should be a corker. 2am on the News Channel, for those who want to record it.

(And an update on my previous post - I have since found out that congress can overturn the presidential veto. That hardly makes it a veto, then, does it?)

Indeed any president can be a lame duck. See Obamacare. Whats so wrong about the us elections is that you have to be a billionaire to run... Which gives you a pool of less than 500 people... And then you end up with Clinton v Trump. If "none of the above" was bottom on the ballot I expect it would win!

[spartacus]

Indeed... a pity Richard Pryor has snuffed it otherwise he would be great on the chat show circuit re-enacting his Brewster's Millions role. If ever there was a time when the 'None of the Above Party' would be guaranteed a shoe-in it's now...

[newres]

Indeed... a pity Richard Pryor has snuffed it otherwise he would be great on the chat show circuit re-enacting his Brewster's Millions role. If ever there was a time when the 'None of the Above Party' would be guaranteed a shoe-in it's now...

There is a third candidate if people don't want Clinton or Trump.

http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm

[On the edge]

Indeed... a pity Richard Pryor has snuffed it otherwise he would be great on the chat show circuit re-enacting his Brewster's Millions role. If ever there was a time when the 'None of the Above Party' would be guaranteed a shoe-in it's now...

Yep! Isn't it a shame we don't hear so much about the brain drain these days, after all we have some top notch political leaders who could be looking for gainful employment, Tony Blair for starters.

[Turin Machine]

I have to say that the train wreck that is currently masquerading as the USA presidential election is at once hilarious yet at the same time very deeply disturbing. Two more odious people simply don't exist and to think one of them will be the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is, quite frankly rather worrying.

If I was an American I would go hide in shame!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I have to say that the train wreck that is currently masquerading as the USA presidential election is at once hilarious yet at the same time very deeply disturbing. Two more odious people simply don't exist and to think one of them will be the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is, quite frankly rather worrying.

If I was an American I would go hide in shame!

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN12I20S

About somes it up!!!

[Biker1]

Maybe it's time to take away the democratic vote from the bumbling Americans and install a dictatorship in it's place!
Seems to work elsewhere!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

My prediction. Trump wins. Gets assasinated by a gay mexican woman before he takes office. You think im joking!!!

[newres]

Maybe it's time to take away the democratic vote from the bumbling Americans and install a dictatorship in it's place!
Seems to work elsewhere!

Following Brexit I think it should happen here too. Is it a coincidence that the most vociferous Brexiteers support Trump?

[JeffG]

Following Brexit I think it should happen here too. Is it a coincidence that the most vociferous Brexiteers support Trump?

Do they? Who in particular? I didn't think there was anyone outside the US and Russia that supported Trump.

[blackdog]

Do they? Who in particular? I didn't think there was anyone outside the US and Russia that supported Trump.

Nigel Farage is the obvious one - appearing with Trump at one of his rallies - but I haven't noticed any Trump promostion from Gove, Johnson, Davies, etc.

[newres]

Nigel Farage is the obvious one - appearing with Trump at one of his rallies - but I haven't noticed any Trump promostion from Gove, Johnson, Davies, etc.

You wouldn't expect members of the government to declare an allegiance. I was thinking more those on here, Facebok, the streets.

[JeffG]

Yes I forgot Farage, but he is a bit of a maverick anyway. I've not heard of, or come across, anyone else, who doesn't treat Trump with derision.

[Turin Machine]

I think we can all agree that dear Donald has as much chance of changing his address to Pennsylvania avenue as does a chocolate egg! Question is, will the world be safer? Or will the email Queen drop us all in it?

[Andy1]

I think we can all agree that dear Donald has as much chance of changing his address to Pennsylvania avenue as does a chocolate egg! Question is, will the world be safer? Or will the email Queen drop us all in it?

A similar thing was thought the night before the Brexit vote

[JeffG]

If Trump wins, you can kiss goodbye to the planet. But maybe pulling out of the Paris agreement won't be quite as easy as he makes out.

[je suis Charlie]

He's toast.

[JeffG]

He's toast.

I was taught never to tempt fate. But we're not superstitious, are we. Are we?

[newres]

A similar thing was thought the night before the Brexit vote

My gut feeling was that remain would lose. There was so much anger and hatred.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

My gut feeling was that remain would lose. There was so much anger and hatred.

Looks like the world wants a Trump presidency..

https://worldwide.vote/hillary-vs-trump/#/results/total

[newres]

Looks like the world wants a Trump presidency..

https://worldwide.vote/hillary-vs-trump/#/results/total

Very scientific.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Very scientific.

And other polls are? LOL....

[newres]

And other polls are? LOL....

Yes. They aren't always accurate but they are designed to be a good representation.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Yes. They aren't always accurate but they are designed to be a good representation.

Just like the GE and Brexit. I still think he will win . I may be wrong. The bookies think I am. And they are not poor.

[Turin Machine]

And Clinton sweeps into power! I just thank God I'm not American!

[newres]

I am hoping that because he is surrounded by advisors and level headed people things won't be as bad as they might be. What's of more concern is that we now have leading the free world a misogynistic nutcase and people voted for him *knowing* what he's like. Britain and America. The two stupidest nations on earth.

[Andy Capp]

I am hoping that because he is surrounded by advisors and level headed people things won't be as bad as they might be. What's of more concern is that we now have leading the free world a misogynistic nutcase and people voted for him *knowing* what he's like. Britain and America. The two stupidest nations on earth.

I think there's a few in front of us.

[Turin Machine]

And Clinton sweeps into power! I just thank God I'm not American!

Ow! Boy did I get that wrong!

[je suis Charlie]

Dispite Trumpy being a total **** the people still preferred that over another four years of the Democrats. Democracy, don't ya just love it?

[Turin Machine]

E mails Hillary, E mails.

[JeffG]

E mails Hillary, E mails.

I blame the gerrymandering by the FBI. Something is rotten in the state of Washington DC.

[newres]

I blame the gerrymandering by the FBI. Something is rotten in the state of Washington DC.

It certainly makes you wonder doesn't it? With the FBI prepared to interfere in an election, is it so far fetched that the CIA would assassinate a president?

[Turin Machine]

They only backed off cos they thought she was going to win 😎

[Berkshirelad]

My prediction. Trump wins. Gets assasinated by a gay mexican woman before he takes office. You think im joking!!!

OK, first part correct.

Waiting with bated breath for the rest...

[newres]

They only backed off cos they thought she was going to win 😎

I reckon you're right.

[je suis Charlie]

Still, who would have thought, Barbie now comes with her own White House.

[Turin Machine]

This looks like part of a seismic shock wave in politics, not just in America but sweeping through Europe as well. It will be interesting to see what share of the vote Marine Le Pen gets at the next elections and whether Mrs Merkel will survive for much longer. A general sign that people are tired of the status quo and want a change away from the leftish policies so prevalent today and towards a more right of centre ground. Although it feels like living through history at the moment and only time will tell.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

This looks like part of a seismic shock wave in politics, not just in America but sweeping through Europe as well. It will be interesting to see what share of the vote Marine Le Pen gets at the next elections and whether Mrs Merkel will survive for much longer. A general sign that people are tired of the status quo and want a change away from the leftish policies so prevalent today and towards a more right of centre ground. Although it feels like living through history at the moment and only time will tell.

Clinton has an awful voice. Like fingernails on a blackboard.
Clinton mistakenly thought wheeling out Hollywoods great and good would inspire. It did. To vote for Trump.
People dont like being told my millionaire luvvies how to vote.
Clinton has deep flaws in her past about connnections to sexual misdemeanour and financial irregularities.

Trump is just a **** head. They chose the **** head. And I always thought they would.

[user23]

People dont like being told my millionaire luvvies how to vote.

Seems they do like being told how to vote by a billionaire TV star though.

[Andy Capp]

I believe elections are lost, more than they are gained. Many were just fed up with the Democrats.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Seems they do like being told how to vote by a billionaire TV star though.

Alan Sugar..... He'd probably win if he ran for Labour.

[On the edge]

I believe elections are lost, more than they are gained. Many were just fed up with the Democrats.

Wouldn't disagree with that, certainly not helped by Hilary Clinton who isn't particularly liked even in her own party. After Trumps acceptance speech; who knows, the future might be brighter than we anticipate.

[je suis Charlie]

Wouldn't disagree with that, certainly not helped by Hilary Clinton who isn't particularly liked even in her own party. After Trumps acceptance speech; who knows, the future might be brighter than we anticipate.

It usually is.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Wouldn't disagree with that, certainly not helped by Hilary Clinton who isn't particularly liked even in her own party. After Trumps acceptance speech; who knows, the future might be brighter than we anticipate.

And Farage has given him the heads up about Juncker and co. We may be at the front of the queue for trade deals now. That will upset remoaners..

https://mobile.twitter.com/JunckerEU/status...277748935299072

Sorry chap. You are toast and so is your EU project. Another nail...

[Turin Machine]

Hillary, you had one job, just one! 🙅

[dannyboy]

Clinton won the popular vote, so in fact more Americans wanted her than wanted Trump in the White House. It is a tiny majority, but it is a majority.

The problem lies in the antebellum American Electoral College voting system.

[Turin Machine]

And look how many votes UKIP got at the last election, and how many seats did they get?

[JeffG]

Clinton won the popular vote, so in fact more Americans wanted her than wanted Trump in the White House. It is a tiny majority, but it is a majority.

The problem lies in the antebellum American Electoral College voting system.

No more of a problem than our own first past the post system. Neither country has proportional voting.

I wonder if the Brexit result would have been different if it had been on a constituency basis rather than a plebiscite.

[spartacus]

Clinton won the popular vote, so in fact more Americans wanted her than wanted Trump in the White House. It is a tiny majority, but it is a majority.

The problem lies in the antebellum American Electoral College voting system.

It means nothing as their girl didn't get in, but they'll use that sort of grasping at straws comment for the next four years. The Republicans would have been quite happy to use it if the result had gone the other way of course, but they all know the system and that's why they concentrate so heavily on bringing in the big numbers in California, Texas, Florida and New York.

The next Presidential Elections in France and Germany in 2017 may prove interesting if their recently expanding populations from the Religion of Peace continue to upset indigenous garlic eaters and knockwurst gobblers. Frexit? Gerexit?

In 2019 California will be voting to break away from the Union with their recently announced Calexit so who knows?
Let's Go It Alone! - until the next big earthquake

[Turin Machine]

I don't think Don will be half as entertaining as we thought, the anti Muslim rhetoric has already been taken down from his website.

[Cognosco]

I don't think Don will be half as entertaining as we thought, the anti Muslim rhetoric has already been taken down from his website.

What you mean American politicians are the same as ours.........promise anything to get into power and then totally forget what they have promised as soon as the votes are counted!

[je suis Charlie]

What you mean American politicians are the same as ours.........promise anything to get into power and then totally forget what they have promised as soon as the votes are counted!

A bit like my missus!

[user23]

No more of a problem than our own first past the post system. Neither country has proportional voting.

I wonder if the Brexit result would have been different if it had been on a constituency basis rather than a plebiscite.

There's a cross party group looking at at the at the moment.

Doesn't seem to be getting much media coverage though.

[On the edge]

There's a cross party group looking at at the at the moment.

Doesn't seem to be getting much media coverage though.

That's interesting, even more so to hear what they come up with. Its a shame about the lack of media coverage, perhaps highlighting something else that would help bring people and politicians together. We seem to be lacking an easy to absorb brief on everything that's going on; not just someone's edited highlights!

[user23]

That's interesting, even more so to hear what they come up with. Its a shame about the lack of media coverage, perhaps highlighting something else that would help bring people and politicians together. We seem to be lacking an easy to absorb brief on everything that's going on; not just someone's edited highlights!

Perhaps it'd bring people together, full stop.

Knowing the party your vote for only needs 1/600th of the national vote to gain one MP might make people realise their vote matters.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Perhaps it'd bring people together, full stop.

Knowing the party your vote for only needs 1/600th of the national vote to gain one MP might make people realise their vote matters.

Be careful what you wish for....

Farage could end up as Prime Minister!!!!

[user23]

Be careful what you wish for....

Farage could end up as Prime Minister!!!!

Ha! Isn't he Trump's special ambassador to the EU now?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Ha! Isn't he Trump's special ambassador to the EU now?

Juncker would choke on his champagne. 4 glasses everyday for breakfast.... 😄

[user23]

Juncker would choke on his champagne. 4 glasses everyday for breakfast.... 😄

Here you go.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Here you go.

Nexit soon then Frexit. The English Brexiteers are feeling a little left out... Where's the WALL? I suppose we could rebuild Hadrians. Build the wall....Build the wall....personally I think its all down to Game Of Thrones. Bl00dy big wall that..

[je suis Charlie]

A big project that, LOADS of jobs for the construction industry right there.

[user23]

Verging slightly into conspiracy theory territory here, but apparently Trump's election was down to Putin.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Verging slightly into conspiracy theory territory here, but apparently Trump's election was down to Putin.

Good. He may have saved us all. Clinton wanted a no fly zone over Syria. Could have sparked WW3. If the Russkies are stupid enough to get involved in wars in that area of the world let them. History teaches us it does not end well.

[blackdog]

There's a cross party group looking at at the at the moment.

Doesn't seem to be getting much media coverage though.

Not surprised - it's a bit effing late. Or has everyone forgotten that referendum?

[user23]

Not surprised - it's a bit effing late. Or has everyone forgotten that referendum?

That wasn't for Proportional Representation, it was for something completely different.

[dannyboy]

Good. He may have saved us all. Clinton wanted a no fly zone over Syria. Could have sparked WW3. If the Russkies are stupid enough to get involved in wars in that area of the world let them. History teaches us it does not end well.

Wars - we have done very well out of them.

[Andy Capp]

An interesting point of view: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone..._11179774.htmlb

[je suis Charlie]

I had to laff, BBC are soo desperate to do their liberal agenda thing they sent Emily maitlis to do an in depth probe into our Don, she ended up comparing the Knights of Columbus with the KKK! Actually suggested they were an extreme right wing organisation! Oh dear, BBC, stop milking the licence payers and try using correspondents who know what they are talking about. And by the way I'm a fan of Emily.

[blackdog]

That wasn't for Proportional Representation, it was for something completely different.

Because the LibDems, despite being part of the governing coalition couldn't get PR on the ballot.

And then the great British public decided they didn't want a fairer electorial system.

[Andy Capp]

Because the LibDems, despite being part of the governing coalition couldn't get PR on the ballot.

And then the great British public decided they didn't want a fairer electorial system.

And the Monster Raving Tories didn't want to let go of gerrymandering.

[Turin Machine]

On the bright side, I understand the Kardashians have been invited to do a make over of the oval office!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Could not have explained this any better myself....

https://mobile.twitter.com/CatlinNya/status...3567616/video/1

[Turin Machine]

Fashisom! You gotta love it!