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Mar 26 2010, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 25 2010, 04:00 PM) Bloggo - It beggars belief that people are defending this judgement. This is why we have such a weak and ineffectife justice system. People are willing to accept this sort of behaviour and find reasons to justify it. QUOTE What if it was your 12/13 year old daughter?? I would be looking to ensure that he suffered a suitable punishment.
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Mar 26 2010, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Mar 26 2010, 08:57 AM) This is why we have such a weak and ineffectife justice system. People are willing to accept this sort of behaviour and find reasons to justify it. Other than maybe paedophiles, I fail to think of anyone that might justify this behaviour! QUOTE (Bloggo @ Mar 26 2010, 08:57 AM) I would be looking to ensure that he suffered a suitable punishment. And risk being slung in gaol and therefore not being available to protect your child from further harm.
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Mar 26 2010, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Mar 26 2010, 09:50 AM) Other than maybe paedophiles, I fail to think of anyone that might justify this behaviour! Take a look at post 13. There is a very strong tone of accepability being demonstrated there. Or perhaps I have misunderstood. QUOTE And risk being slung in gaol and therefore not being available to protect your child from further harm. You have to do what you think is right and I have always said that if the Law can't or won't protect me or mine, then I will.
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Mar 26 2010, 10:49 AM
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You have to do what you think is right and I have always said that if the Law can't or won't protect me or mine, then I will. [/quote] This is where we are all heading.
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Mar 26 2010, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Mar 26 2010, 10:27 AM) You have to do what you think is right and I have always said that if the Law can't or won't protect me or mine, then I will. I understand that, but retaliation, by definition, doesn't protect anyone. Indeed, like I said, if you're banged up, you become even less capable in protecting anyone.
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Mar 26 2010, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:00 AM) I understand that, but retaliation, by definition, doesn't protect anyone. Indeed, like I said, if you're banged up, you become even less capable in protecting anyone. I understand and respect your view but stand by mine.
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Mar 26 2010, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 26 2010, 11:28 AM) I'm with you Bloggo. Enough is Enough. So what is it you are going to do about it Batman? QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 26 2010, 11:28 AM) There is no justice in the justice system for law abiding citizens anymore. There still is justice, but it seems there are faults with it. That's my view. The Government, Police and CPS need to take some crime more seriously than they appear to at the moment. The story that sponsored this thread seems, on the surface, particularly stupid.
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Mar 26 2010, 11:43 AM
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[quote name='Iommi' date='Mar 26 2010, 11:33 AM' post='15652'] So what is it you are going to do about it Batman? Nothing. Unless someone impinges on my life. I'm just saying that an awful lot of crime is now not reported as people feel that their is little or no point. They would rather address the issues they have themselves than bother with the police / cps / courts. They know it is not worth it.
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Mar 26 2010, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:33 AM) So what is it you are going to do about it Batman? There still is justice, but it seems there are faults with it. That's my view. The Government, Police and CPS need to take some crime more seriously than they appear to at the moment. The story that sponsored this thread seems, on the surface, particularly stupid. I'm glad to see that you are coming around to agreeing with the points that TD&H and I are trying to make.
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Mar 26 2010, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (Newbury Expat @ Mar 25 2010, 08:01 PM) There are some sick people out there, I would think this is why he has not been in court. He is ill, not a criminal.
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Mar 26 2010, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Mar 26 2010, 12:52 PM) I would think this is why he has not been in court. He is ill, not a criminal. In which case we would expect to see some reference to him being recommended for treatment of some kind? That at least would give the public some confidence that something is being done with regard to this particular indvidual.
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Mar 27 2010, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Mar 26 2010, 03:53 PM) In which case we would expect to see some reference to him being recommended for treatment of some kind? That at least would give the public some confidence that something is being done with regard to this particular indvidual. Please correct me if I'm wrong, (I can hear the buzzer going, QI-esque already!) but I thought sex with a minor was never consentual in law, & therefore considered statutory rape? If this person did seek help for the symptoms he recognised as improper, he should have been offered treatment, but is there treatment-ie something that will CURE him of these persuassions? I am doubtful, but Joe Public clearly needs protection from him & he from himself, if soley for the "images" issue which seems to be accepted by some (not me) as the lesser evil. All this said, he was already comitting a crime if my inititial comment is correct, so I'm unsure how he escaped the law....can only think I'm not in full possession of the facts?
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May 4 2010, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Andy @ May 4 2010, 04:48 PM) The fact that he will get some treatment to address his obvious psychological problems. And what about the person thats been subject to the assault? Have there feelings been taken into account? Or are you suggesting that anyone who commits an offence under the consensual age should be 'counselled' and not punished in anyway? I do not claim to be any sort of expert in this area and I'm sure the Professionals that deal with these sorts of cases must have reasons behind what they do. I hust hope they have made the right 'call' and no other person will suffer as a result.
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May 4 2010, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ May 4 2010, 05:09 PM) Of course more people will suffer, without punishment there is no regret. That's why we read and see in the media constant re-offending, especially when it comes to abuse. I would guess he mentally imbalanced and therefore probably would not be regretting his actions anyway. I don't think though that locking him up would assist anyone and is more likely to make him worse and thereby more likely to re-offend when released. Treatment however MAY help him to realise and understand his crime and possibly prevent future problems.
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May 4 2010, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ May 4 2010, 10:02 PM) I don't see why being locked up and getting help have to be mutually exclusive. because that would make sense Strafin!
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