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motormad
post Jul 17 2013, 08:49 AM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2013/road-la...g-will-go-ahead

I agree with Mr Woodhams (surprisingly).

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Mr Woodhams said that he believed the road changes would have little impact on congestion.

He said: “From the outset the Thatcham Conservative councillors have been wracking their brains to come up with a new idea to impress motorists and residents, to reduce queueing times at the Thatcham level crossing.

“They have wasted £83,000, and the provision for a right-hand turn lane into the Thatcham sorting office … will have little to no effect on reducing these queues.


This will not reduce congestion. If people want to go into the sorting office they either go around the one-way system and out infront of everyone or just drive down the wrong side of the road. (there's nothing coming anyway).

I used to live 2 minute walk from Thatcham train station. Infact I grew up there and would go into town on the train regularly before I had a car.

A bridge is the only solution and unless they do that, anything will be a waste of money.
The sheer amount of disruption during the roadworks will cause havoc as well.


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post Sep 5 2013, 01:06 PM
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It's not the love of internal combustion. It's the love of freedom of movement.
I want to go from Reading to Thatcham.

I can do that with about 5 different routes in a car, bicycle or motorcycle. I can go when I like at the speed (pretty much) that I like.
On a train all I can do is go from Thatcham TRAIN STATION to Reading TRAIN STATION, not any faster and much more uneconomically than if I were driving. I can only leave and arrive when planned and this is subject to other delays.


You cannot sit there and possibly defend it. Often and regularly trains are delayed due to a train further down the track being delayed.

Yeah, that's progress..


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post Sep 5 2013, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 5 2013, 02:06 PM) *
It's not the love of internal combustion. It's the love of freedom of movement.
I want to go from Reading to Thatcham.

I can do that with about 5 different routes in a car, bicycle or motorcycle. I can go when I like at the speed (pretty much) that I like.
On a train all I can do is go from Thatcham TRAIN STATION to Reading TRAIN STATION, not any faster and much more uneconomically than if I were driving. I can only leave and arrive when planned and this is subject to other delays.


You cannot sit there and possibly defend it. Often and regularly trains are delayed due to a train further down the track being delayed.

Yeah, that's progress..



You still don't get it do you.

Read this again & then have a think. If UK Govts had spent even a quarter of the cash they have spent over the decades on roads on rail travel, you'd be able to enjoy far better motoring.
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- motormad   Thatcham Railway Crossing   Jul 17 2013, 08:49 AM
- - Biker1   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 17 2013, 09:49 AM) ...   Jul 17 2013, 09:30 AM
|- - MontyPython   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 17 2013, 10:30 AM) Ab...   Jul 17 2013, 10:32 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (MontyPython @ Jul 17 2013, 11:32 A...   Jul 17 2013, 11:10 AM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (MontyPython @ Jul 17 2013, 11:32 A...   Jul 17 2013, 07:31 PM
- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 17 2013, 10:30 AM) Ab...   Jul 17 2013, 12:50 PM
- - motormad   So you think that £83k is a good use ("not a ...   Jul 17 2013, 01:00 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 17 2013, 02:00 PM) ...   Jul 17 2013, 01:36 PM
- - On the edge   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 17 2013, 09:49 AM) ...   Jul 17 2013, 01:49 PM
- - motormad   So basically what you are saying is that anything ...   Jul 17 2013, 01:49 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 17 2013, 02:49 PM) ...   Jul 17 2013, 03:37 PM
|- - MontyPython   As I am not over familiar with the area so have lo...   Jul 17 2013, 05:31 PM
- - On the edge   How about working up a sensible long term real sol...   Jul 17 2013, 06:50 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 17 2013, 07:50 P...   Jul 17 2013, 07:00 PM
|- - motormad   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 17 2013, 08:00 PM)...   Jul 17 2013, 09:25 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 17 2013, 10:25 PM) ...   Jul 18 2013, 08:57 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 18 2013, 09:57 AM)...   Jul 18 2013, 09:06 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 10:06 AM) Th...   Jul 18 2013, 09:14 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 18 2013, 10:14 AM)...   Jul 18 2013, 09:22 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 10:22 AM) Ca...   Jul 18 2013, 10:42 AM
|- - MontyPython   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 18 2013, 11:42 AM)...   Jul 18 2013, 12:35 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (MontyPython @ Jul 18 2013, 01:35 P...   Jul 18 2013, 01:21 PM
- - On the edge   Like it or not Newbury/Thatcham is already a large...   Jul 17 2013, 09:09 PM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 17 2013, 07:50 P...   Jul 18 2013, 12:15 AM
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|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (spartacus @ Jul 18 2013, 01:15 AM)...   Jul 18 2013, 09:02 AM
- - On the edge   Wow and there it is! Nowt will replace the ...   Jul 18 2013, 05:18 AM
|- - BMR   I got bored with all the talk about a bridge while...   Jul 18 2013, 07:32 AM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 10:22 AM) Ca...   Jul 18 2013, 10:21 AM
- - On the edge   Isn't it rather odd that the preferred solutio...   Jul 18 2013, 01:14 PM
|- - motormad   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 18 2013, 02:14 P...   Jul 18 2013, 02:53 PM
- - Nothing Much   This discussion has been going on for so long that...   Jul 18 2013, 03:36 PM
- - Simon Kirby   Like OtE said, now's actually quite a good tim...   Jul 18 2013, 06:26 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jul 18 2013, 07:26 P...   Jul 18 2013, 06:31 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 07:31 PM) Se...   Jul 18 2013, 06:37 PM
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|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 07:31 PM) Se...   Jul 18 2013, 07:31 PM
- - JeffG   My opinion is that Newbury/Thatcham now needs an E...   Jul 18 2013, 07:22 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (JeffG @ Jul 18 2013, 08:22 PM) My ...   Jul 18 2013, 07:32 PM
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|- - Biker1   QUOTE (JeffG @ Jul 18 2013, 08:22 PM) My ...   Jul 18 2013, 07:47 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 08:47 PM) Wh...   Jul 18 2013, 08:04 PM
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|- - motormad   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 11:50 PM) If...   Jul 19 2013, 11:02 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 19 2013, 12:02 PM) ...   Jul 19 2013, 07:20 PM
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- - spartacus   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jul 18 2013, 09:28 P...   Jul 18 2013, 09:13 PM
- - Berkshirelad   I notice that the Cllr concerned bemoans traffic c...   Jul 18 2013, 09:14 PM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 18 2013, 10:19 P...   Jul 18 2013, 11:54 PM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 11:50 PM) Th...   Jul 19 2013, 12:01 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (spartacus @ Jul 19 2013, 02:01 AM)...   Jul 19 2013, 05:12 AM
- - Simon Kirby   I don't see the existing traffic hold-ups at t...   Jul 19 2013, 07:58 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jul 19 2013, 08:58 P...   Jul 21 2013, 06:40 AM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 21 2013, 07:40 A...   Jul 21 2013, 08:06 AM
|- - On the edge   Deleted duplicate   Jul 21 2013, 02:14 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (blackdog @ Jul 21 2013, 09:06 AM) ...   Jul 21 2013, 02:19 PM
- - NWNREADER   With (Local) Government finance you have to have t...   Jul 21 2013, 11:39 AM
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|- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Cognosco @ Jul 21 2013, 01:44 PM) ...   Jul 21 2013, 01:00 PM
- - Simon Kirby   One problem with a brave visionary plan is that we...   Jul 21 2013, 04:19 PM
- - user23   Isn't the crossing owned by Network Rail?   Jul 21 2013, 06:57 PM
|- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 21 2013, 07:57 PM) Is...   Jul 21 2013, 07:47 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Jul 21 2013, 08:47 PM)...   Jul 22 2013, 09:54 PM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 22 2013, 10:54 PM) It...   Jul 23 2013, 12:17 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (spartacus @ Jul 23 2013, 02:17 PM)...   Sep 4 2013, 08:54 PM
- - Biker1   I have just been past the new layout at this locat...   Sep 4 2013, 08:50 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:50 PM) I h...   Sep 4 2013, 09:02 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2013, 11:02 PM) ...   Sep 4 2013, 09:24 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 4 2013, 10:24 PM) OK ...   Sep 4 2013, 09:28 PM
- - Biker1   I think Network Rail would like, in the ideal worl...   Sep 4 2013, 09:35 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 4 2013, 10:35 PM) I t...   Sep 4 2013, 09:43 PM
- - motormad   Ergo Network Rail should pay for it. It's thei...   Sep 4 2013, 09:55 PM
|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 4 2013, 10:55 PM) E...   Sep 4 2013, 11:33 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (dannyboy @ Sep 5 2013, 01:33 AM) I...   Sep 5 2013, 07:20 AM
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- - JeffG   I think what is meant is that if rail was subsidis...   Sep 5 2013, 09:19 AM
|- - motormad   QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 5 2013, 10:19 AM) I th...   Sep 5 2013, 11:29 AM
|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 5 2013, 12:29 PM) K...   Sep 5 2013, 11:53 AM
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- - motormad   That was one example and you know it. We all see h...   Sep 5 2013, 12:06 PM
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