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post Oct 22 2011, 07:08 PM
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Where is the referendum on an elected Mayor we were promised for September?
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post Oct 22 2011, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Oct 22 2011, 08:08 PM) *
Where is the referendum on an elected Mayor we were promised for September?


Was that from our local councils? Then don't hold your breath as they say...... rolleyes.gif They probably have found out they won't get the answer they wanted? wink.gif


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post Oct 22 2011, 07:54 PM
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Yeah, where is it???????!!!
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Richard Garvie
post Oct 22 2011, 09:10 PM
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The petition will be handed in next March. It has taken longer than expected, with resources put towards fighting ticket office closures and other campaigns that are of immediate concern. Due to the schedules that are applied, we either have to submit September or March, so the next window is March 2012 in time for an October 2012 referendum and the elections would be the following May (2013). What may be better would be to wait until March 2014 until we submit the petition, so we have a mayor election in May 2015 if approved, in sync with the local council elections. I will keep you posted with what is decided, but it will be March at the earliest.

A press release will be put out in the next couple of weeks once I've consulted the other parties / candidates.
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post Oct 22 2011, 09:25 PM
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September 2011 to March 2014? That's some postponement. This "other parties/candidates" thing doesn't add up either. The petition is about getting a certain number of signatures from residents.
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post Oct 22 2011, 09:27 PM
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To submit in September you would have needed to be good to go before that, which eliminates the Ticket Office issue as the cause of not being ready.
What were the other campaigns?
is the reality there is no rush to sign up, so those in favour are having to work harder than they would like in order to gain the required level of support (which tends to indicate there would not be the majority in favour anyway)?

Which 'other parties/candidates? I didn't know there were any candidates, let alone 'others'.
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post Oct 23 2011, 09:10 AM
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We already have the signatures required, I'm going to speak with Jeff Brooks and Graham Jones before deciding whether it's submitted in March coming or whether we wait until March 14 so that a mayor election would be held with the council elections.
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post Oct 23 2011, 09:43 AM
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If you already have the required signatures and feel so strongly, why delay? Many of those signatories may not be valid come the time - people changing their mind/moving away etc. Other will be denied the opportunity to participate.
Why discuss with the two Spawn of Satan? What is it to do with them? I very much doubt they will be keen to aid progress....
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post Oct 23 2011, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Oct 23 2011, 10:43 AM) *
If you already have the required signatures and feel so strongly, why delay? Many of those signatories may not be valid come the time - people changing their mind/moving away etc. Other will be denied the opportunity to participate.
Why discuss with the two Spawn of Satan? What is it to do with them? I very much doubt they will be keen to aid progress....


Neither want a mayor, but the level of signatures has now been reached and I'd rather try and agree a timeframe than just stick it in. There may be a way to have the referendum and then implement the mayor model (if agreed) at the next election. I'm not sure if that is possible, which is why I will be speaking to them and some of the council officers etc.

My belief is that the matyor model is more effective annd accountable, and that view is one championed by the Prime Minister. He believe every unitary should have an elected mayor, so what are the current members scared of? I think if I remember correctly, the Conservative Party position (locally) is that it risks introducing personality into politics!!!
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post Oct 23 2011, 10:29 AM
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Waffle.

Your tactic seems ( to me) to keep the debate live as long as possible, and not to deliver the referendum
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post Oct 23 2011, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Oct 23 2011, 11:29 AM) *
Waffle.

Your tactic seems ( to me) to keep the debate live as long as possible, and not to deliver the referendum


That's your view and you are entitled to it.
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post Oct 23 2011, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Oct 23 2011, 11:29 AM) *
Waffle.

Your tactic seems ( to me) to keep the debate live as long as possible, and not to deliver the referendum
Indeed. Your question, "What were the other campaigns?" was avoided also.
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post Oct 23 2011, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 23 2011, 11:26 AM) *
Neither want a mayor, but the level of signatures has now been reached and I'd rather try and agree a timeframe than just stick it in. There may be a way to have the referendum and then implement the mayor model (if agreed) at the next election. I'm not sure if that is possible, which is why I will be speaking to them and some of the council officers etc.

My belief is that the matyor model is more effective annd accountable, and that view is one championed by the Prime Minister. He believe every unitary should have an elected mayor, so what are the current members scared of? I think if I remember correctly, the Conservative Party position (locally) is that it risks introducing personality into politics!!!


Perhaps I misread but I thought the council had taken the position of not talking to you? rolleyes.gif


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post Oct 23 2011, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Oct 23 2011, 01:17 PM) *
Perhaps I misread but I thought the council had taken the position of not talking to you? rolleyes.gif


I have to go through a legal officer.
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post Oct 23 2011, 01:37 PM
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There is another thread on this Forum wondering what's going on? Looking at all the negativity anyone with any spark of an idea gets, its hardly surprising is it? The labour Party (and I'm no supporter) might have a few problems right now - but at least its supporters are off their a**** getting things moving.

Instead of sitting back thinking up schoolboy blocking responses, a behaviour so beloved of the Trots back in the 70's, or claiming that every good idea is theirs, can we not have some positive remarks and perhaps some real debate?

I'm not holding my breath!


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post Oct 23 2011, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 23 2011, 02:37 PM) *
There is another thread on this Forum wondering what's going on? Looking at all the negativity anyone with any spark of an idea gets, its hardly surprising is it? The labour Party (and I'm no supporter) might have a few problems right now - but at least its supporters are off their a**** getting things moving.
Things won't be moving until March 2014 at the earliest, as far as this is concerned.
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post Oct 23 2011, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 23 2011, 02:39 PM) *
Things won't be moving until March 2014 at the earliest, as far as this is concerned.


I'm sure it won't. Wars when they start are said to be over by Christmas, but usually take far longer. That doesn't stop the planning or the fighting.


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post Oct 23 2011, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 23 2011, 02:39 PM) *
Things won't be moving until March 2014 at the earliest, as far as this is concerned.


Would this have anything to do with how efficient our local authorities are and how quickly they proceed with important matters perhaps? Especially if they are against the proposal? rolleyes.gif


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post Oct 23 2011, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Oct 23 2011, 05:23 PM) *
Would this have anything to do with how efficient our local authorities are and how quickly they proceed with important matters perhaps? Especially if they are against the proposal? rolleyes.gif

No.... as I understand it the decision is purely a tactical one by Richard.
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post Oct 23 2011, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Oct 23 2011, 05:52 PM) *
No.... as I understand it the decision is purely a tactical one by Richard.


Is this the case Richard? What are the reasons for the delay then? This contagion of breaking promises and election pledges has not spread from the Tory and LibLiars to the Newbury Labour Party surely? rolleyes.gif


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