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post Jun 8 2016, 05:36 PM
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" England has saved herself by her exertions and will, I trust save Europe by her example."

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post Jun 8 2016, 06:21 PM
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You lot are forgetting a few things..

A) Britain will be in a permanent economic recession and all our houses will be worthless.
B The British pound will be worthless. All capital will leave the Country and we will have Zimbabwe like hyper inflation. You will all need wheelbarrows full of money to buy a loaf of bread.
C) Europe will declare war on Britain.
D) A plague of locusts will visit and eat all our crops leaving us to starve.
E) The NHS will fail and any one getting ill will die.

Doomed... we are all doomed.
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post Jun 8 2016, 06:47 PM
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Your forgetting a few things, The Sun is predicted to stop spinning, the death of every firstborn and last but not least we will all have to help in planting a prickly hedge round the coastline to keep out the hordes of rampaging Mermen. It's gonna get tough.
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post Jun 8 2016, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 8 2016, 07:47 PM) *
Your forgetting a few things, The Sun is predicted to stop spinning, the death of every firstborn and last but not least we will all have to help in planting a prickly hedge round the coastline to keep out the hordes of rampaging Mermen. It's gonna get tough.


We need new legislation as well. Votes should be weighted. Anyone under 30 should get two votes. Any foreign born person with a British passport should get 2 votes. White indigenous English born people over 50 should be banned from voting. It's best all round.

I had to laugh at the uni today that banned white straight people from attending a conference. It's for the greater good....
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post Jun 8 2016, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 8 2016, 07:21 PM) *
You lot are forgetting a few things..

D) A plague of locusts will visit and eat all our crops leaving us to starve.

...no that's not right.... once we've voted 'Out' we'll have better control of our borders..... so no more of these scare stories of African bees coming across, or deadly Giant Asian Hornets... or foreign mosquitoes carrying the Zika Virus. Any plagues of locusts would be stopped at the border and sent back on the rubber ring they came in on...
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post Jun 8 2016, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jun 8 2016, 08:33 PM) *
...no that's not right.... once we've voted 'Out' we'll have better control of our borders..... so no more of these scare stories of African bees coming across, or deadly Giant Asian Hornets... or foreign mosquitoes carrying the Zika Virus. Any plagues of locusts would be stopped at the border and sent back on the rubber ring they came in on...


The Chinese in the UK may welcome the locusts. Imagine all that protein. We need one of those Springfield type domes over the UK. LOL!
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post Jun 8 2016, 09:51 PM
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Fortunately, the pandered leftist youth will save the country from all that.
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post Jun 9 2016, 12:48 AM
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You assume of course that the young lackeys of the imperialist running dogs won't be bothered getting out of bed?


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post Jun 9 2016, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 8 2016, 11:54 AM) *



According to the Sun newspaper, this occurred in 2013


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post Jun 9 2016, 10:10 AM
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A classic!


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post Jun 10 2016, 08:39 AM
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I don't think Eddie Izzard's behaviour on Question Time last night did much good for the remain camp laugh.gif .
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post Jun 10 2016, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (HJD @ Jun 10 2016, 09:39 AM) *
I don't think Eddie Izzard's behaviour on Question Time last night did much good for the remain camp laugh.gif .


What a knob he was. Best thing to happen was when the bloke in the audience told him to shut up.
Respect for his charitable work but he is so full of his own self importance it is untrue. How dare these people TELL us what to do? It's called a referendum.
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post Jun 10 2016, 11:04 AM
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Regardless of the argument its worth having just to see the looks on the faces of Osborne, Cameron, Blair et al cool.gif


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post Jun 10 2016, 12:16 PM
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That's the rub. This is an opportunity to rub the establishment's faces in it and one of the reasons I'd vote Brexit, but whether it is a better thing to happen to the UK is another matter. As I have said earlier, there has been no tangible argument put forward that means we would benefit from leaving the union, or that anything would get better.


Democracy does have a specious side to it.
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post Jun 10 2016, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 10 2016, 01:16 PM) *
That's the rub. This is an opportunity to rub the establishment's faces in it and one of the reasons I'd vote Brexit, but whether it is a better thing to happen to the UK is another matter. As I have said earlier, there has been no tangible argument put forward that means we would benefit from leaving the union, or that anything would get better.


Democracy does have a specious side to it.


I see it as such.

We may take an economic hit initially but we will get full democracy back. And in 3 to 5 years we will see many benefits.

I see Europe as a failed economic experiment.
Time to pull the plug. We go and it will be like dominoes toppling.

I want to go on holiday and gets some escudos or pesetas. Used to be great fun!
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post Jun 10 2016, 12:37 PM
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We've simply hit the 'my dad's bigger than your's' stage!

There is an intriguing point which is being a little overlooked. That is, the discontent with 'open and free' market rules isn't just one way. I know a good few French and German business people who look askance at our cavalier company and staff rules; which for a true level playing field should be harmonised.

If they were, we'd actually see rather less tooth and claw capitalism which so damages our commercial integrity. The likes of Fred Godwin and Sir Philip Green are far less likely to be able to operate unhindered. In addition, exploitative staff employment contracts and the ever present possibility of sudden job loss don't happen to anywhere near UK levels.

Perhaps Jeremy Corbyn is thinking of the workers by apoarently supporting 'IN'.


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post Jun 10 2016, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 10 2016, 01:37 PM) *
We've simply hit the 'my dad's bigger than your's' stage!

There is an intriguing point which is being a little overlooked. That is, the discontent with 'open and free' market rules isn't just one way. I know a good few French and German business people who look askance at our cavalier company and staff rules; which for a true level playing field should be harmonised.

If they were, we'd actually see rather less tooth and claw capitalism which so damages our commercial integrity. The likes of Fred Godwin and Sir Philip Green are far less likely to be able to operate unhindered. In addition, exploitative staff employment contracts and the ever present possibility of sudden job loss don't happen to anywhere near UK levels.

Perhaps Jeremy Corbyn is thinking of the workers by apoarently supporting 'IN'.


Yep. Cos 35 hour working weeks, countless strikes and loads of public holiday's is doing it for the French..
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post Jun 10 2016, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2016, 02:32 PM) *
Yep. Cos 35 hour working weeks, countless strikes and loads of public holiday's is doing it for the French..


Well of course that's what we are told!

Then again, they still have utilities in public ownership, where energy prices are kept at reasonable prices. Plus both still have mass volume car manufacturers and other major commercial firms headquartered there. Reasonable wages and working hours for the masses that aren't like our bosses. Makes you think, I wouldn't worry about a few strikes for that.

So the benefit seems to be investment to keep productivity up, so we could all work less time and have more holidays at the expense of a little disruption down to strikes.

Umm

We have no investment, static wages, long hours, short holidays, public service cuts AND strikes! (southern Railway this week)

Some deal, heads they win, tails we loose; who is being suckered?


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post Jun 10 2016, 05:37 PM
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Apparently their rent rates and home ownership (and all the false wealth that creates) isn't on the same scale as 'us' either. I to some extent admire the belligerence of the French pleb compared to our former war winning attitude.
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post Jun 10 2016, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 10 2016, 06:37 PM) *
Apparently their rent rates and home ownership (and all the false wealth that creates) isn't on the same scale as 'us' either. I to some extent admire the belligerence of the French pleb compared to our former war winning attitude.


They have a bit more space than us... And everyone that comes to blighty wants to live down South. Malthus supply and demand.
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